Knicks · [GT 5/17/24 8:30PM ESPN] R2G6 Knicks at Pacers (NYK 3-2) (page 4)

DLeethal @ 5/17/2024 11:07 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:Why do cars break down as the miles build up after driving just fine the day before? Haha

DLeethal wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:You may not want to hear it all you want, but when shots repeatedly fall short, their lift is limited by tired legs. Just need to bring it 2nd half. But they need to limit 1st half mistakes.

DLeethal wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:F'in pathetic effort, with 11 missed FTs, and letting anyone score layups on us. JB & Burks are way off, dumb defensive switches. We need JB on and to keep them under 30 a quarter, horrible 2nd.

11 missed FTs in a game is not good, in a half, that is horrific. Everything falling short screams fatigue. I hope they are just saving it for the 2nd half. Better start the 3rd strong.

I don’t want to hear anything about fatigue. We just played our best game of the playoffs and had 2 days off.

How does a team play its best game of the playoffs and then get “tired” with no games in between? Lol

Do cars break down then drive fine the next day then break down again then drive fine the next day?

So you're saying we're the BMWs of the NBA.

Nah it’s a normal tight playoff series. Trading healthy wins at home.

VDesai @ 5/17/2024 11:13 PM
Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point
SergioNYK @ 5/17/2024 11:18 PM
Beyond angry and disappointed. We had it and allowed these Hicks to outhustle us and now we gotta play a dangerous do or die game where anything can happen. And the injuries are just deflating.
BigDaddyG @ 5/17/2024 11:24 PM
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Don't worry. Just give him some breast milk and hell be fine.
VDesai @ 5/17/2024 11:30 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Don't worry. Just give him some breast milk and hell be fine.

Maybe just needs to fart out that gas again

markvmc @ 5/17/2024 11:32 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
DLeethal wrote:If there’s no Hart and no OG that might spell doom though.

Damn, I'm out of beer I guess it's whiskey night.

Damn, I'm out of whiskey. I guess it's beer night.

Nah, just kidding, I've always got back up whiskey.

Panos @ 5/17/2024 11:40 PM
MS wrote:Thibs deserves everything he gets.

This is a fucking disgrace! Cancel the contract.

Wtf is Brunson or anyone in the game we need in game 7.

3:30 game and we are playing are guys.

Dude I feel sorry for your wife... you're so tiresome.

CanItGetAnyWorse @ 5/18/2024 3:06 AM
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Julius, OG, Mitch, Bogs and now Hart.
It’s not about fair. It is predictable from overplaying combined with our style.
We need deeper rotations if we expect to stay healthy playing so physical.
Imagine Indiana playing short rotations. A physical style is more taxing than just running.

jaydh @ 5/18/2024 7:31 AM
markvmc wrote:Broken rib? Torn muscle? Anyone know what's up here with Hart?

my guess is kidney stone or gas.. he does eat a lot of candy

nycericanguy @ 5/18/2024 7:42 AM
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Julius, OG, Mitch, Bogs and now Hart.
It’s not about fair. It is predictable from overplaying combined with our style.
We need deeper rotations if we expect to stay healthy playing so physical.
Imagine Indiana playing short rotations. A physical style is more taxing than just running.

OG, Mitch, Bogs have always been injury prone, so yes that is predictable.

Randle is 30 now and has started to become injury prone as well. Randle played 37.6mpg his 1st season in NY and was a workhorse, his minutes have been cut every year since, yet he's getting hurt more.

Hali is bubble wrapped by IND and he misses more games than anyone.

this idea that minutes played = injuries is so outdated and just... lazy? The entire NBA is going through an injury epidemic.

And if you want to talk about minutes the Knicks didn't have anyone in top 10 in MPG and only 3 players even in the top 100. It's a very lazy narrative to blame Thibs for injuries.

The truth is most teams that have 1 or 2 key guys out fold early, we are so well coached that Thibs is 1 game away from taking the bench squad to the ECF's. Almost as if Thibs is doing too good for his own good. but as Jhart says, anyone that blames Thibs for injuries doesn't know shit.

DLeethal @ 5/18/2024 7:51 AM
nycericanguy wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Julius, OG, Mitch, Bogs and now Hart.
It’s not about fair. It is predictable from overplaying combined with our style.
We need deeper rotations if we expect to stay healthy playing so physical.
Imagine Indiana playing short rotations. A physical style is more taxing than just running.

OG, Mitch, Bogs have always been injury prone, so yes that is predictable.

Randle is 30 now and has started to become injury prone as well. Randle played 37.6mpg his 1st season in NY and was a workhorse, his minutes have been cut every year since, yet he's getting hurt more.

Hali is bubble wrapped by IND and he misses more games than anyone.

this idea that minutes played = injuries is so outdated and just... lazy? The entire NBA is going through an injury epidemic.

And if you want to talk about minutes the Knicks didn't have anyone in top 10 in MPG and only 3 players even in the top 100. It's a very lazy narrative to blame Thibs for injuries.

The truth is most teams that have 1 or 2 key guys out fold early, we are so well coached that Thibs is 1 game away from taking the bench squad to the ECF's. Almost as if Thibs is doing too good for his own good. but as Jhart says, anyone that blames Thibs for injuries doesn't know shit.

Yea the only reason this narrative is lingering is bc we haven’t lost yet lol. Most teams would have gotten trounced already - Knicks are fighting to live on despite the injuries which is unheard of. Kings lost Malik Monk and Huerter and plummeted out of the playoffs. That’s usually what happens when you have injuries of our magnitude.

nycericanguy @ 5/18/2024 7:53 AM
DLeethal wrote:
nycericanguy wrote:
CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man we got beat tonight, but losing Josh Hart is a just not fucking fair at this point

Julius, OG, Mitch, Bogs and now Hart.
It’s not about fair. It is predictable from overplaying combined with our style.
We need deeper rotations if we expect to stay healthy playing so physical.
Imagine Indiana playing short rotations. A physical style is more taxing than just running.

OG, Mitch, Bogs have always been injury prone, so yes that is predictable.

Randle is 30 now and has started to become injury prone as well. Randle played 37.6mpg his 1st season in NY and was a workhorse, his minutes have been cut every year since, yet he's getting hurt more.

Hali is bubble wrapped by IND and he misses more games than anyone.

this idea that minutes played = injuries is so outdated and just... lazy? The entire NBA is going through an injury epidemic.

And if you want to talk about minutes the Knicks didn't have anyone in top 10 in MPG and only 3 players even in the top 100. It's a very lazy narrative to blame Thibs for injuries.

The truth is most teams that have 1 or 2 key guys out fold early, we are so well coached that Thibs is 1 game away from taking the bench squad to the ECF's. Almost as if Thibs is doing too good for his own good. but as Jhart says, anyone that blames Thibs for injuries doesn't know shit.

Yea the only reason this narrative is lingering is bc we haven’t lost yet lol. Most teams would have gotten trounced already - Knicks are fighting to live on despite the injuries which is unheard of. Kings lost Malik Monk and Huerter and plummeted out of the playoffs. That’s usually what happens when you have injuries of our magnitude.

agreed.

“If the Knicks don’t win on Sunday, it’ll be because of health,” Bob Myers said on ESPN after the game. “The way they’ve fought with who they’ve lost already is as commendable as any NBA team I’ve ever seen.”

nycericanguy @ 5/18/2024 7:56 AM
No one that knows ball has anything but respect for what Thibs is doing with this squad. There's nothing negative about this run we are having. We probably won't win it all, but this team is getting battle ready and tested to make a serious title run next season.
Nalod @ 5/18/2024 7:57 AM
I'd guess pulled muscle.
Why?
Maybe Fatigue. Whose to say.
Blame the refs?
How does a team go from tired, to not tired, to tired again?
"pathetic effort"..........

Nobody says a damn thing about the Pacers? Maybe that bench keeps them fresher, maybe they executed a good gameplay, maybe the fact they won 10 games at home prior matters, and maybe they flat outplayed our beloved?
It happens. not a question of loyalty or belief system. Its a game.
Knicks been running on fumes this series and OG out exasperated that.
Its been great fun all of it.

We got us a real game 7 in MSG! Stakes are higher. Emotional stakes for the fan. Can some of you guys handle it?
Really, few of you already were on to Boston and counted those chickens before they hatched. Don't want no 7th game? Tough stuff for a fan. WIn and you get to bask in the glory and call out those who doubted. Lose and the season is over and you get to blame refs, Thibs, game plan, injuries, etc and have months to devise trades, draft picks, we can argue over if Thibs wore our guys out.
Its playoffs gentleman, if you can stretch your talent you win. If you have depth you don't have to stretch it as much. If your thin you risk stressing it too far.

Im have a high conviction that healthy we'd have done with this series and have Boston very concerned. But we instead going to a game seven! Do I expect to win? No. DO I expect to lose? No. Im going to sit, make some popcorn, and enjoy the high drama of a close game and either suffer or celebrate the outcome! A blowout loss might help the reality easier,

Ah, but a victory will be sweet!!! If not , I'll take solace this team took it as far as it could and they should be proud of themselves.

Nalod @ 5/18/2024 7:58 AM
nycericanguy wrote:No one that knows ball has anything but respect for what Thibs is doing with this squad. There's nothing negative about this run we are having. We probably won't win it all, but this team is getting battle ready and tested to make a serious title run next season.

that will take us thru the off season!!!! Most of its will be very satisfied with what occurred this year.

MS @ 5/18/2024 7:58 AM
These injuries aren’t on Thibs. Multiple freak falls. Just wish when a game is over not to keep the guys out there. It’s his nature to battle and fight, but sometimes you just need to let it go.

Hard to win in Indy either way. I wouldn’t want to be the Pacers on Sunday though, MSG is going to be scary.

SupremeCommander @ 5/18/2024 8:01 AM
MS wrote:These injuries aren’t on Thibs. Multiple freak falls. Just wish when a game is over not to keep the guys out there. It’s his nature to battle and fight, but sometimes you just need to let it go.

Hard to win in Indy either way. I wouldn’t want to be the Pacers on Sunday though, MSG is going to be scary.

they have been way better at home than on the road. I highly doubt as many guys are in double digits Sunday, for example

DLeethal @ 5/18/2024 9:12 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
MS wrote:These injuries aren’t on Thibs. Multiple freak falls. Just wish when a game is over not to keep the guys out there. It’s his nature to battle and fight, but sometimes you just need to let it go.

Hard to win in Indy either way. I wouldn’t want to be the Pacers on Sunday though, MSG is going to be scary.

they have been way better at home than on the road. I highly doubt as many guys are in double digits Sunday, for example

Yea they are not nearly as good on the road. We can scrap this out even without Hart. I wonder if 3 guards and the double big lineup would actually perform well tbh.

I’d rather Hart not play if he’s gonna play like he did tonight. If he’s 2 steps slow he becomes a liability fast.

ToddTT @ 5/18/2024 9:45 AM
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my weekend, up until 3:30PM tomorrow, is ruined.

I hope Hart's injury is somehow treatable for tomorrow.

LivingLegend @ 5/18/2024 9:57 AM
ToddTT wrote:

So much hope yet so much despair.

LivingLegend @ 5/18/2024 10:01 AM
DLeethal wrote:
NYStateOfMind wrote:F'in pathetic effort, with 11 missed FTs, and letting anyone score layups on us. JB & Burks are way off, dumb defensive switches. We need JB on and to keep them under 30 a quarter, horrible 2nd.

11 missed FTs in a game is not good, in a half, that is horrific. Everything falling short screams fatigue. I hope they are just saving it for the 2nd half. Better start the 3rd strong.

I don’t want to hear anything about fatigue. We just played our best game of the playoffs and had 2 days off.

Well Brunson was clearly fatigued—- not sure what we did to get him looking fine and moving so well in game 6 but it’s possible he just fell flat (physically/mentally) even with the extra days rest. Remember another flight involved as well - sometimes travel can hit you at the wrong time.

In any event Brunson looked comatose from the start.

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