Knicks · OT: From Soup to Nuts - All Things WNBA (page 19)

LivingLegend @ 5/19/2025 6:39 PM
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JESUS

LivingLegend @ 5/19/2025 6:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I don't know if I'd ruin my marriage over her, but I do see his perspective.

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Sophie Cunningham Mentioned In Bombshell Lawsuit Against Phoenix Suns

The Phoenix Suns are currently embroiled in multiple lawsuits over allegations of workplace mismanagement, including racial discrimination, retaliatory firings and sexual harassment. In the latest suit, filed May 13, Suns and Mercury CEO Josh Bartelstein is accused of having an affair with current Indiana Fever star Sophie Cunningham.

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Don’t like the suit part BUT Sophie is so cute and so tough - very rugged, frisky beautiful woman.

Clean @ 5/20/2025 5:48 AM
LivingLegend wrote:I never noticed this thread until just this second - seems Clean has been doing much of the commentary (kudos).

Have to admit I was an old man who for many years laughed off the WNBA even while acknowledging some of the leagues great woman players.

All of a sudden I see these Caitlin Clark stories/highlights popping up late in her junior (?) year at Iowa - I eventually tuned on a game and for whatever reason I was instantly captivated and I’ve rarely missed an opportunity watch her since.

Laughing at myself last year I recorded and watched every game and became an instant Fever fan simply because of Caitlin.

If she doesn’t play I really could care less to watch the games even though I acknowledge there are some other great / exciting players — just nobody that makes me watch like Caitlin. I do have a soft spot for Kelcie Plum and it may be that she plays with some of the same fire that Caitlin does.

It got so bad this spring I was eagerly checking out news of the WNBA free agency and the draft.

Was thrilled Fever added Bonner, Howard, Colson and my heart throb Sophie Cunningham — plus a new outstanding coach and new rookie. Love the existing core of Boston, Mitchell and Hull (such a scrapper) and think this group could challenge for title. I watch every game and my appreciation for the other great woman players in the league is growing.

Can’t believe the off-season they had surrounding Caitlin with solid defensive minded vets who will fit perfectly.

In a way Caitlin is my Tiger Woods. If Tiger is there I’m watching and if not my interest level plummets.

In terms of Angel Reese - I see a big, tough, mobile kid who is a hell of a REBOUNDER but that’s it - no skill and her distaste/ jealousy of Caitlin oozes thru the tv screen. She’d do herself a favor to just keep her head down and improve her skills —- she has no business being compared to Caitlin in any shape or fashion.

Caitlin needs to get STRONGER, work on her left hand dribbling/shooting. She needs to work on a pull-up midrange game and a floater.

I’m not exactly sure what it is but she has IT.

Your story is exactly like mines. Welcome to the family! I love the Fever but hate everything else WNBA. The young players who just came from college are also good because they have not been corrupted by the pre Caitlin WNBA. I am being a little dramatic but these people will not just let us have fun watching basketball because they hate her. Instead of talking about that amazing game the media been focusing on fake drama.

Clean @ 5/20/2025 5:55 AM
For the people who might not have watched this game. I love the new coach. its just the first game and our defense is way better than last season. Sophie did not even play in this game and she was one of our best players during preseason. There was a lot of chemistry turnovers that should get better the more reps they get. We still have a miss wide open layups issue we need to fix. Caitlin would have had 16 asts if not for smoked open layups.

I seen someone say something about Lexie Hull that was funny and kind of true. On offense she is so funny. She is either super hot from 3 but will brick open layups or hit her open laups but miss all her 3's. I love Sexie Lexie because she does all the little things and hustles harder than everyone.

Bonus video of the Lexie hull game where she was hot from 3 and was making layups. The game was so fun to watch live. She destroyed the other team. A little backstory is she was on the bench half a season because our old coach was bad. Injures helped her get in then she became one of our best players. In the bonus video you will see how open she was. It is because her 3pt percentage was terrible while getting spot minutes. Teams would double off her and others to blitz Caitlin. She shot like 47% from 3 after she got regular playing time.

Edit: I just got chills watching the highlight. This was my favorite WNBA game ever.

Nalod @ 5/20/2025 9:15 AM
Caught some Women march madness few years back when Stanford made some runs with Brink and the Hull twins. Brink was a hell of a college player even as a freshman. Can't say I'd remember much until the next spring and there those long legged girls were back playing again.

I find the women game "Interesting" in a throw back kind of way. They lack the athletic nature. of the mens game but passing and shooting matter more so its fun to watch. I did watch the liberty run last year and happy they finally got a chip.

As for Clark, she is incredible and seems to handle herself fantastic on and off the court. Its a shame that so much ugly has boiled over from her ascent. Perhaps media has fed a sort of "Bird-Magic" theme to both their rise thru college and into the pro but Angel has yet to blossom on the court to be a true rivalry.

LivingLegend @ 5/20/2025 3:23 PM
With the additions the Fever have made I think their game style is going to kind of Sun's D'Antoni 7 seconds or less.

Player I most compare Caitlin to is Steven Nash. I've heard Curry (because of her shot) but I think at the WNBA what really makes her great is how she constantly pushes pace, makes great look-ahead passes and her ability to manipulate the pick and roll. She has ladies around her now that can run but also who can spread the floor and a great young post big in A Boston.

I'm guessing this team is going to break offensive records this year and the roster is now filled with scrappy/tough players.

Clean @ 5/24/2025 5:39 AM
Huge game vs the Liberty today. The Liberty are the best team in the league and the Fever are still working through our early season chemistry problems. The Libs should win but you never know.
Nalod @ 5/24/2025 11:36 AM
Crazy the backlash against Angel Reese via social media.
They are making fun of her game and displaying she is more into her image than anything.
At some point is she ruining her appeal and earning capacity off the court? Sponsers have to be looking at this.
If she can't perform on the court that more than anything will hurt her earnings off the court. The way she went after CC was an irrational response to a basketball play a bad look.

Other teams seem to be trying to slam Clark physically also and this girl just gets up, smiles, and keeps coming back. Double or triple her she has the IQ to see it coming and move the ball more times than not. Not sure this team has the chops to win a chip but they need only get it together by the end of the season. Indy basketball is a good place to be these days.
Liberty and knicks? Not too shabby either!!!

Clean @ 5/24/2025 5:45 PM
That was an amzing game. The Liberty is a super team but the Fever was right there with them. 3 bad calls in the final minute all in favor of the Libs won them the game.
Nalod @ 5/24/2025 7:54 PM
Clean wrote:That was an amzing game. The Liberty is a super team but the Fever was right there with them. 3 bad calls in the final minute all in favor of the Libs won them the game.

New York beats a team from Indiana in Basketball!

Nalod @ 5/29/2025 1:59 PM
Wrong for US Sen. Jim Banks from Indiana to state Angel Reese owes Indiana Fans an apology.
Just because they could not substantiate it does not mean it did not happen.
Sen Banks comment is a dog whistle to invite racism were he need not flame that into existence any more than it is.
If WNBA does not look into it its a bad look. They did. Found nothing to substantiate. Its a bad look either way.
Im no Angel fan. He game need to do the talking. Her College stardom has yet to translate to to the next level. Clark has defied her early trajectory proving many wrong. Gino Aureietta on record saying she would not initially be a star in the WNBA. His I don't see was fueled by hate but his opinion. Perhaps his opinion was given when he answered questions about her by media. Thats not hate, it was just not accurate.
Clean @ 5/30/2025 10:41 PM

Bro, all the players we signed are trash man. I will never listen to WNBA people again. Those idiots convinced me we had a super team. We are a close to a contender team with Caitlin and bottom of the league team with her now injured.
Clean @ 6/1/2025 12:03 PM

Best playing in the world. Her team looks lost after she finally missed some games. If she were ever to get a serious injury we would get a top pick for sure.
Nalod @ 6/9/2025 9:37 AM

While there is no doubt racist under tones to the whole Angel/Clark thing and how it exists in the WNBA.
Clark was elevated perhaps before she proved herself which caused much of the early issues.
WNBA I agree did not handle it well as it was not prepared (who can be) for what was to come.

At the end of the day when all the racist remarks are out there there boils a simple fact that this is a sports issue and what happens on the court does matter. Angel is simply not living up to the hype that she rode in on. Perhaps her hype was self crated given her "success" with online media. These two girls are both under intense microscopes given their individual circumstances. Angel has yet to live up to her hype while Clark exceeded most baseline expectations for a rookie. In a nationally covered game Reese had 4 pts, 12 rebounds, 5 of which were
"Mebounds" were she gets her own missed shot. They also lost the game to a very talented Liberty team.

Both have created more exposure to the league feeding a public that likes this sort of thing. Slowly they are also exposing these wonderful athletes and the game that likely won't be a major sports any time soon but gains more fans as the games do matter!

I recall 20 years ago Anna Kornakova drew a lot of jealous ire from the tennis world as she had yet to win a tournament but was heralded for her incredible looks on and off the court. Contrast that to what Serena Williams faced regarding acceptance was that generations greatest player and its easy to see the ugly side of fans at times. She powered thru it because at the end of the day she was an incredible champion on the court. She was accountable. Kornakova came and left little impression as a tennis player. Serena is the GOAT. Angel needs to play better if she wants to be respected as an athlete.

All the while we sort thru the many layers of prejudice/racism and perhaps some aspects of "reverse" components that have been presented. Its not always pretty but we learn more about ourselves and society thru it.

Clean @ 6/10/2025 5:11 AM
For the people who might not be keeping up I will give a quick rundown.

Fever with Caitlin took the best team in the league to the final play and got cheated by the refs.

Caitlin strained her quad and the team became a bottom of the league level squad.

We suffered a few more injuries so was able to sign a hardship player.

That player fit our team perfectly so now even though we are injured we are playing way better.

Once we get players back we have to waive the hardship player.

If we want to keep Aari we would have to cut a useless vet.

The problem is the WNBA still in the phase were you keep past prime and useless vets as respect.

So we might let a player go that fits our team perfectly because of politics.

If this happens I have to seriously think about if I want to be a fan on this team.

I want to win and I don't care about that other stuff and the WNBA is filled to the brim with other stuff.

Nalod @ 6/10/2025 8:06 AM
Clean wrote:For the people who might not be keeping up I will give a quick rundown.

Fever with Caitlin took the best team in the league to the final play and got cheated by the refs.

Caitlin strained her quad and the team became a bottom of the league level squad.

We suffered a few more injuries so was able to sign a hardship player.

That player fit our team perfectly so now even though we are injured we are playing way better.

Once we get players back we have to waive the hardship player.

If we want to keep Aari we would have to cut a useless vet.

The problem is the WNBA still in the phase were you keep past prime and useless vets as respect.

So we might let a player go that fits our team perfectly because of politics.

If this happens I have to seriously think about if I want to be a fan on this team.

I want to win and I don't care about that other stuff and the WNBA is filled to the brim with other stuff.



can you just watch the game without all that other stuff? If CC is the MVP she's sort that out over the season and playoffs. Player get robbed and then gifted at times.
Clean @ 6/11/2025 1:42 PM

The front office totally messed up building around her. We went from an exciting young team to old and slow. She wanted vets that could teach her how to win but they got to at least fit her style of play. They went and got 2 of the oldest and slowest players in the league and another old player that can't play D or shoot.

The WNBA teams are still stuck in the 90s. It's not hard to build around her. She needs 3%D players that can run the fast break.

martin @ 6/14/2025 4:08 PM
Nalod @ 6/14/2025 5:22 PM
Got rained off the beach this afternoon and caught a bit of the game. Caitlin is the golden child.
Lexi and Sophie got them long tan legs. Sorry I regress into that but they got game.
Clean @ 6/14/2025 6:33 PM

Nothing gets me more hype than a Caitlin Clark game. She is something else. The Fever lost to a bottom 3 team without her and defeated the best team in the league with her.
Nalod @ 6/14/2025 7:42 PM
Clean wrote:
Nothing gets me more hype than a Caitlin Clark game. She is something else. The Fever lost to a bottom 3 team without her and defeated the best team in the league with her.

You back now? Got them blond leggy wingstops and your girl in the middle doing crazy good and then full adult in the room post game comments spot on. She is something!

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