Knicks · OT: Apparently in the WNBA Your Not Allowed to be Great at the game of Basketball, White and Straight (page 3)

BigDaddyG @ 6/8/2024 2:44 PM
Clean wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Who said Catlin is straight ?

It does not matter in the grand scheme of things but Caitlin and Kate Martin are stright. Paige Bueckers is Gay but I don't think she has officially came out yet.

Not that it matters and I'm asking for a friend anyway, but Nika Muhl is straight, right?

Nalod @ 6/8/2024 3:21 PM
Clean wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Who said Catlin is straight ?

It does not matter in the grand scheme of things but Caitlin and Kate Martin are stright. Paige Bueckers is Gay but I don't think she has officially came out yet.

Bueckers does a lot of the "Jesus christian" verbiage so I'd be surprised if she was.

Clean @ 6/8/2024 3:35 PM
Nalod wrote:
Clean wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Who said Catlin is straight ?

It does not matter in the grand scheme of things but Caitlin and Kate Martin are stright. Paige Bueckers is Gay but I don't think she has officially came out yet.

Bueckers does a lot of the "Jesus christian" verbiage so I'd be surprised if she was.


If you saw her leaks you would know she is about as gay as you can get. Now that you mention it, her religiousness is probably the reason why she has not come out. Her GF is on the team so I think that is why she chose to stay another year instead of going to the WNBA. This could be the last time they are on the same team again.
Clean @ 6/8/2024 3:39 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Clean wrote:
Alpha1971 wrote:Who said Catlin is straight ?

It does not matter in the grand scheme of things but Caitlin and Kate Martin are stright. Paige Bueckers is Gay but I don't think she has officially came out yet.

Not that it matters and I'm asking for a friend anyway, but Nika Muhl is straight, right?

I don't know about her. I don't really go seeking this type of info or leaks but they usually pop up on my social media timelines since I been getting into WNBA more in recent months. I have not seen anything on Nika Muhl.

Rookie @ 6/10/2024 4:15 PM
Caitlin Clark WNBA salary - $76,535 in 2024

Caitlin Clark Net Worth 2024 - 3.4 Million

Worries in the world - 0

Clean @ 6/12/2024 12:56 AM
The Aces are stacked but they are kind of struggling to win these days. They are now 5 - 5 on the season. They are missing their PG but they have more than enough talent to be better than a .500 team.
Clean @ 6/12/2024 3:08 AM
For those who care to see how good the injured Aces PG Chelsea Gray is. Amazing how you can go from looking unstoppable to a .500 team mostly because you are missing your PG. This is why I still think we need a real backup PG on the Knicks.



Nalod @ 6/12/2024 11:58 AM
Good to see Raymond Felton is back in the league!

I love your reasoning for wanting a backup PG for knicks!!!!!

WNBA is a different game then Mens. More passing, more space. Not saying its better or lessor. Its different.
Because court dimensions are the same men are bigger and faster with more power. Less room to pass.
Ball movement and players moving without the ball is fun to watch. I like the womens game. Not better, not worse, its different!!!!
Its like 1950's mens NBA with 3 pt spacing. I know some might mock it, but thats how hoop became a spectator sport. Lots of passing and player movement.

Clean @ 6/12/2024 5:55 PM

I knew she was a big reason why but this big? And we are only talking about attendance. We are not even factoring in other stuff.
Rookie @ 6/12/2024 7:50 PM
I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that Angel Reese is a bad ass. She’s going to be a big star in the league
Rookie @ 6/13/2024 8:51 AM
I can honestly say I didn’t even know that the woman had an Olympic basketball team. If the woman are televised I will definitely check it out this year.
Clean @ 6/14/2024 10:10 PM

I keep learning more about WNBA history and apparently there is another case like Clark and Sabrina but people will tell you the players are not jealous. You have to click the tweet then the picture to read the whole thing.

Edit: here is the full article https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/187...

joec32033 @ 6/15/2024 12:07 AM
Clean wrote:
I keep learning more about WNBA history and apparently there is another case like Clark and Sabrina but people will tell you the players are not jealous. You have to click the tweet then the picture to read the whole thing.

Edit: here is the full article https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/187...

To be fair this article was from 2017. And we don't know the backstory. I read the article and quotes after I googled Candace Parker bullied. Paints that league and it's players in very broad strokes. Not saying she didn't experience it, just that from reading it, I want more info before I draw any conclusions.

To be fair I read some of the players/former players responses to that article. Doesn't seem like a case of lesbians circling the wagons.

More info required.

Clean @ 6/15/2024 12:13 PM
joec32033 wrote:
Clean wrote:
I keep learning more about WNBA history and apparently there is another case like Clark and Sabrina but people will tell you the players are not jealous. You have to click the tweet then the picture to read the whole thing.

Edit: here is the full article https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/187...

To be fair this article was from 2017. And we don't know the backstory. I read the article and quotes after I googled Candace Parker bullied. Paints that league and it's players in very broad strokes. Not saying she didn't experience it, just that from reading it, I want more info before I draw any conclusions.

To be fair I read some of the players/former players responses to that article. Doesn't seem like a case of lesbians circling the wagons.

More info required.

I am going to guess you meant Candace Wiggens instead of Candace Parker. They are differenet players. A lot of what you said are very true. What striked me the most about this is how similar it is to what we are seeing now. Plus I would not go too far with what player/former player responses are for what happened then because they are doing the same exact thing now. No there is nothing going on when any person who clearly looks at whats happening can see something is not the same.

Listen to how she explains her situation

"People were deliberately trying to hurt me all of the time," Sounds a lot like the blindside cheapshot CC took.

"I had never been called the B-word so many times in my life than I was in my rookie season." Exactly what Chennedy yelled at CC before the cheapshot.

"I'd never been thrown to the ground so much. The message was: We want you to know we don't like you." This one is harder to prove because it can easily be just a normal hard basketball play and we can't tell intention.

To touch on the we don't like you part look at what has happened already for CC. Chennedy delivers the blindside shot and what does her team including Angel Reese do? Cheer for her like she hit a last second shot. Then that same team lied and said a Clark fan was harassing them and yelling racist stuff at them. When the video came out it was a Washington DC paparazzi guy asking them question from 10 feet away while they walked on a public street to their hotel room. He was even calling Chennedy Ms.Clark while asking her the questions. Why lie about that? To further tarnish Clarks name. 2 of Clarks team members closest friend and girlfriend were attacking Clark on social media before the last Fever game. Smiths girlfriend and Bostons best friend. All of this and we are still so early in Clarks career. If I was a WNBA fan back when this happened to Wiggins I would have probably had these stories to tell about then to but those get lost to time.

and lastly like you said the brigade of former players and commentaters to tell you what you are clearly seeing is still not happening.

Like you said its hard to tell what if what happened to Wiggins is true or not. The sad truth is details get lost over time and because she was not as popular as Clark not as many people were paying attention. However, with how similar her story is to what I am seeing now in Clarks short WNBA career the similarities are too much for me to completely ignore her claims.

Edit: Just remembered 2 more instances before Clark even got to the WNBA. The Lynx headcoach and Team USA head coach Cheryl Reeve was liking negative tweets about how annoying it will be to have Clark in the WNBA. A'ja Wilson also saying that Clarks popularity was because of race. I am a fan of A'ja as you can tell by some of my posts in this very thread but Clark has a game like Curry and scored more in the NCAA than anyone else ever. To ignore those facts and says its race is kind of crazy.

Clean @ 6/15/2024 8:02 PM

Nice speech from A'ja.
Clean @ 6/16/2024 2:21 PM
That Fever vs Sky game was really good. They both are not great but when they matchup it makes for a good game.
Rookie @ 6/17/2024 1:01 PM
Flagrant or na. Reese sure knows how to make headlines. The entire world is talking about her today.

Clean @ 6/17/2024 4:04 PM
It was rightly called a flagrant 1. That should have been all we heard of it but the race baiters on both sides got to fight about it for another few days. After the Drama about what happened with CC and Chennedy I think CC has not been targeted on court again. There are too many people watching to continue to do that. This Angel Reese thing was just a mistake.
Clean @ 6/17/2024 6:18 PM

Look at these passes. Once she figures out which passes are too risky and she gets players on her team that don't miss open layups as much she is going to be an even bigger problem.
Rookie @ 6/17/2024 6:29 PM
Clean wrote:
Look at these passes. Once she figures out which passes are too risky and she gets players on her team that don't miss open layups as much she is going to be an even bigger problem.

It’s not just her team. The talent pool is either pretty shallow or the players just don’t get paid enough to spend all of the time trying to get better. I watched Liberty vs Aces and there were to many 3-4-5 min stretches where nobody could score. It’s pretty surreal all the missed shots considering the slow pace of play.

joec32033 @ 6/17/2024 11:33 PM
Clean wrote:
joec32033 wrote:
Clean wrote:
I keep learning more about WNBA history and apparently there is another case like Clark and Sabrina but people will tell you the players are not jealous. You have to click the tweet then the picture to read the whole thing.

Edit: here is the full article https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/187...

To be fair this article was from 2017. And we don't know the backstory. I read the article and quotes after I googled Candace Parker bullied. Paints that league and it's players in very broad strokes. Not saying she didn't experience it, just that from reading it, I want more info before I draw any conclusions.

To be fair I read some of the players/former players responses to that article. Doesn't seem like a case of lesbians circling the wagons.

More info required.

I am going to guess you meant Candace Wiggens instead of Candace Parker. They are differenet players. A lot of what you said are very true. What striked me the most about this is how similar it is to what we are seeing now. Plus I would not go too far with what player/former player responses are for what happened then because they are doing the same exact thing now. No there is nothing going on when any person who clearly looks at whats happening can see something is not the same.

Listen to how she explains her situation

"People were deliberately trying to hurt me all of the time," Sounds a lot like the blindside cheapshot CC took.

"I had never been called the B-word so many times in my life than I was in my rookie season." Exactly what Chennedy yelled at CC before the cheapshot.

"I'd never been thrown to the ground so much. The message was: We want you to know we don't like you." This one is harder to prove because it can easily be just a normal hard basketball play and we can't tell intention.

To touch on the we don't like you part look at what has happened already for CC. Chennedy delivers the blindside shot and what does her team including Angel Reese do? Cheer for her like she hit a last second shot. Then that same team lied and said a Clark fan was harassing them and yelling racist stuff at them. When the video came out it was a Washington DC paparazzi guy asking them question from 10 feet away while they walked on a public street to their hotel room. He was even calling Chennedy Ms.Clark while asking her the questions. Why lie about that? To further tarnish Clarks name. 2 of Clarks team members closest friend and girlfriend were attacking Clark on social media before the last Fever game. Smiths girlfriend and Bostons best friend. All of this and we are still so early in Clarks career. If I was a WNBA fan back when this happened to Wiggins I would have probably had these stories to tell about then to but those get lost to time.

and lastly like you said the brigade of former players and commentaters to tell you what you are clearly seeing is still not happening.

Like you said its hard to tell what if what happened to Wiggins is true or not. The sad truth is details get lost over time and because she was not as popular as Clark not as many people were paying attention. However, with how similar her story is to what I am seeing now in Clarks short WNBA career the similarities are too much for me to completely ignore her claims.

Edit: Just remembered 2 more instances before Clark even got to the WNBA. The Lynx headcoach and Team USA head coach Cheryl Reeve was liking negative tweets about how annoying it will be to have Clark in the WNBA. A'ja Wilson also saying that Clarks popularity was because of race. I am a fan of A'ja as you can tell by some of my posts in this very thread but Clark has a game like Curry and scored more in the NCAA than anyone else ever. To ignore those facts and says its race is kind of crazy.

I'm on my phone so I can't bold and break this down but it is very insightful. First off, yes I meant Wiggins. I will say there is alot of smoke. Like alot alot. ALOT. So I think there is something there. I just don't know what it is. I can't remember if Wiggins came into that league with much hype. I don't think this is a white vs black thing because there are other white (and black) players getting along fine. I don't think it's a homophobe thing (this may be where the Wiggins stuff picked up. She said something about she will be herself and not change who she is in that article. Did she Mark Jackson up and that caused her struggle? Her wording was very weird.

Could it be a jealousy thing? Maybe.

If I recall correctly Jordan went through some pretty rough times where teams were trying to hurt him on his way up. Players have admitted it. I'm not comparing impact or anything but maybe it's something like that.

And don't get me started on Reese. She strikes me as a bad guy like Elmer Fudd or While E Coyote was a bad guy. She seems like a bigger try hard than Alex Rodriguez, a worse media speaker than OJ, and she wants to be like Rodman but without any of the backlash that Rodman LOVED.

As for these other women, at some point this stuff needs to die down by them shutting up. Play the game, what happens happens, say it is part of the game when everyone plays hard on the press conference and leave it at that. All this whining and drama is really going to turn people off to their product (I'm interested in the social aspect of how this plays out), but I do really wish the players\coaches would shit the fuck up.

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