Knicks · Julius Randle appreciation thread... (page 1)

Before some of you get excited... he's still a Knick, haters.

Appreciate him while he's here. I'll start with the following.

Season		W	L	W/L%	Finish		Playoffs
2023-24		50	32	0.61	2nd of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
2022-23		47	35	0.573	3rd of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
2021-22		37	45	0.451	5th of 5	
2020-21		41	31	0.569	3rd of 5	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
2019-20		21	45	0.318	5th of 5	
2018-19		17	65	0.207	5th of 5	
2017-18		29	53	0.354	4th of 5	
2016-17		31	51	0.378	3rd of 5	
2015-16		32	50	0.39	3rd of 5	
2014-15		17	65	0.207	5th of 5	
2013-14		37	45	0.451	3rd of 5	
2012-13		54	28	0.659	1st of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
2011-12		36	30	0.545	2nd of 5	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
2010-11		42	40	0.512	2nd of 5	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
2009-10		29	53	0.354	3rd of 5	
2008-09		32	50	0.39	5th of 5	
2007-08		23	59	0.28	5th of 5	
2006-07		33	49	0.402	4th of 5	
2005-06		23	59	0.28	5th of 5	
2004-05		33	49	0.402	5th of 5	
2003-04		39	43	0.476	3rd of 7	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
2002-03		37	45	0.451	6th of 7	
2001-02		30	52	0.366	7th of 7	
2000-01		48	34	0.585	3rd of 7	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
1999-00		50	32	0.61	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Finals
1998-99		27	23	0.54	4th of 7	Lost Finals
1997-98		43	39	0.524	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1996-97		57	25	0.695	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1995-96		47	35	0.573	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1994-95		55	27	0.671	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1993-94		57	25	0.695	1st of 7	Lost Finals
1992-93		60	22	0.732	1st of 7	Lost E. Conf. Finals
1991-92		51	31	0.622	2nd of 7	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1990-91		39	43	0.476	3rd of 6	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
1989-90		45	37	0.549	3rd of 6	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1988-89		52	30	0.634	1st of 6	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1987-88		38	44	0.463	3rd of 5	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
1986-87		24	58	0.293	5th of 5	
1985-86		23	59	0.28	5th of 5	
1984-85		24	58	0.293	5th of 5	
1983-84		47	35	0.573	3rd of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1982-83		44	38	0.537	4th of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1981-82		33	49	0.402	5th of 5	
1980-81		50	32	0.61	3rd of 5	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
1979-80		39	43	0.476	4th of 5	
1978-79		31	51	0.378	4th of 5	
1977-78		43	39	0.524	2nd of 5	Lost E. Conf. Semis
1976-77		40	42	0.488	3rd of 5	
1975-76		38	44	0.463	4th of 4	
1974-75		40	42	0.488	3rd of 4	Lost E. Conf. 1st Rnd.
1973-74		49	33	0.598	2nd of 4	Lost E. Conf. Finals
1972-73		57	25	0.695	2nd of 4	Won Finals
1971-72		48	34	0.585	2nd of 4	Lost Finals
1970-71		52	30	0.634	1st of 4	Lost E. Conf. Finals
1969-70		60	22	0.732	1st of 7	Won Finals
1968-69		54	28	0.659	3rd of 7	Lost E. Div. Finals
1967-68		43	39	0.524	3rd of 6	Lost E. Div. Semis
1966-67		36	45	0.444	4th of 5	Lost E. Div. Semis
1965-66		30	50	0.375	4th of 4	
1964-65		31	49	0.388	4th of 4	
1963-64		22	58	0.275	4th of 4	
1962-63		21	59	0.263	4th of 4	
1961-62		29	51	0.363	4th of 4	
1960-61		21	58	0.266	4th of 4	
1959-60		27	48	0.36	4th of 4	
1958-59		40	32	0.556	2nd of 4	Lost E. Div. Semis
1957-58		35	37	0.486	4th of 4	
1956-57		36	36	0.5	4th of 4	
1955-56		35	37	0.486	4th of 4	Lost E. Div. Third Place Tiebreaker
1954-55		38	34	0.528	2nd of 5	Lost E. Div. Semis
1953-54		44	28	0.611	1st of 5	Lost E. Div. Rnd.-Robin
1952-53		47	23	0.671	1st of 5	Lost Finals
1951-52		37	29	0.561	3rd of 5	Lost Finals
1950-51		36	30	0.545	3rd of 6	Lost Finals
1949-50		40	28	0.588	2nd of 6	Lost E. Div. Finals
1948-49		32	28	0.533	2nd of 6	Lost E. Div. Finals
1947-48		26	22	0.542	2nd of 4	Lost Quarterfinals
1946-47		33	27	0.55	3rd of 6	Lost Semis

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Who?

Rookie wrote:Who?

Pecker.

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Yes.

I'll appreciate Julius if he just tones down his effort to fly to the rim and dunk the ball. Maybe have Charles Oakly give him some tips on staying just inches off the court and still being able to dominate the game!

Really, Oak dominate the game?
His legend grows in stature thru the years.

franco12 wrote:I'll appreciate Julius if he just tones down his effort to fly to the rim and dunk the ball. Maybe have Charles Oakly give him some tips on staying just inches off the court and still being able to dominate the game!

But... Hero Ball!

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Short of getting another elite big man like Anthony Davis, Bam or Mobley for him, I do not see any other Randle trade that improves the Knicks. Even getting people like KAT, Sabonis or Lauri will not improve us. Feels like the value of Randle for the Knicks is much higher than it could be for other teams, so we are unlikely to get back equal or greater value for him.

Nalod wrote:Really, Oak dominate the game?
His legend grows in stature thru the years.

He dominated the trenches definitely. But his level of effort would not be appreciated in this offensive oriented nba culture.

Another trade Randle thread?

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Really, Oak dominate the game?
His legend grows in stature thru the years.

He dominated the trenches definitely. But his level of effort would not be appreciated in this offensive oriented nba culture.

Appreciated? He might not have made it in todays game. Draymond Green comes close to a comp.
I'll give Charles the benefit of the doubt. Guys in different eras are hard to peg. Dray had length which I don't know if Charles had. But, Charles was a great compliment to Ewing and in the Era they go it done.
Mostly at least1!1

Nalod wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:Really, Oak dominate the game?
His legend grows in stature thru the years.

He dominated the trenches definitely. But his level of effort would not be appreciated in this offensive oriented nba culture.

Appreciated? He might not have made it in todays game. Draymond Green comes close to a comp.
I'll give Charles the benefit of the doubt. Guys in different eras are hard to peg. Dray had length which I don't know if Charles had. But, Charles was a great compliment to Ewing and in the Era they go it done.
Mostly at least1!1

Oakley would have, dare I say, done quite well for himself in todays game - he had a legit outside shot which I am sure would have extended into 3pt land. We focus on some of the brutal plays and think these guys would have played the same way (Draymond does SO there is that), but Oakley would have been a great player in todays game:

It’s a long video, but you can see his j is something that would translate to today’s NBA

Franco, I do give him the benefit of the doubt. And I did comp him to Draymond so in Oak fashion your making an argument where I have none.
My stance is not of propaganda or fondness of the past.
IN a sense, OG is the evolution of Oak. Built like a brick shit house but I guess longer wingspan, and a very good 3pt shot.
Josh Hart has the heart of "Oak" but brings coast to coast penetration and longer range streaky shooting.
Dray is the point forward at times and passing keeps the ball moving.
Oak in todays game would have to have added one of these elements. He did not have the foot speed, reach, handle, or passing but it was not needed.

Young ewing be player today but have a shorter career? Thing is would he have had the offensive fundamentals if he came out after his freshman year? Likely not. John Thompson really polished him over 4 years and he took the league by storm with his offensive game! Perhaps better sports medicine etc could have have kept his knees a bit better. Not to diss Ewing, but maybe he more like Miles turner if he had the range and had to choose his spots more? Turner can protect the rim. Ewing was a better athlete earlier in his career and could do it all. Thing is, players today don't. They are managed.

We'd have loved Embiid if he was a knick. Your not gonna tell me Oak was not dirty at times are you?? LOL

SO many factors era to era to consider.