Knicks · IHart to OKC (page 11)

Rookie @ 7/3/2024 8:52 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some disgruntled Knick fans thin.

Of course. I would say the disgruntledness of some of us is largely tongue in cheek. It certainly is for me.

But screw him.

I hope iHart steps in cow sh@t and ruins his shoes and I hope his wife is really bad at line dancing

KnickDanger @ 7/3/2024 8:53 AM
Rookie wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some disgruntled Knick fans thin.

Of course. I would say the disgruntledness of some of us is largely tongue in cheek. It certainly is for me.

But screw him.

I hope iHart steps in cow sh@t and ruins his shoes and I hope his wife is really bad at line dancing


HofstraBBall @ 7/3/2024 9:00 AM
KnickDanger wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some disgruntled Knick fans thin.

Of course. I would say the disgruntledness of some of us is largely tongue in cheek. It certainly is for me.

But screw him.

lol. True

I keep mentioning the Indiana series and not to mention Boston but the need should be a quicker 5 that can contend with stretch 5’s and be able to rotate on defense.
As good as IHart was protecting the rim and dealing with traditional bigs, he was not that.
Don’t get me wrong. It would have been great to run it back but feel losing Ihart was not as bad for either side. We stay healthy, sign Precious, see what the youngins bring and then make adjustments midway if not. Imho

Rookie @ 7/3/2024 9:19 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some disgruntled Knick fans thin.

Of course. I would say the disgruntledness of some of us is largely tongue in cheek. It certainly is for me.

But screw him.

lol. True

I keep mentioning the Indiana series and not to mention Boston but the need should be a quicker 5 that can contend with stretch 5’s and be able to rotate on defense.
As good as IHart was protecting the rim and dealing with traditional bigs, he was not that.
Don’t get me wrong. It would have been great to run it back but feel losing Ihart was not as bad for either side. We stay healthy, sign Precious, see what the youngins bring and then make adjustments midway if not. Imho

Our thin front court got thinner and we have financial limitations we haven’t had in years. Good news is we have the best talent we’ve had in decades. It’s not perfect but but it’s a new hard capped apron wearing world.

Philc1 @ 7/3/2024 9:51 AM
1. When did IHart become Jokic?

2. IHart was a UFA and made a “business decision” (took the most$$). It wasn’t like he was Douchingis and demanded a trade out of here because he listened to wall to wall Knick bashing on ESPN and twitter.

Philc1 @ 7/3/2024 9:52 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some disgruntled Knick fans thin.

Of course. I would say the disgruntledness of some of us is largely tongue in cheek. It certainly is for me.

But screw him.

lol. True

I keep mentioning the Indiana series and not to mention Boston but the need should be a quicker 5 that can contend with stretch 5’s and be able to rotate on defense.
As good as IHart was protecting the rim and dealing with traditional bigs, he was not that.
Don’t get me wrong. It would have been great to run it back but feel losing Ihart was not as bad for either side. We stay healthy, sign Precious, see what the youngins bring and then make adjustments midway if not. Imho

Mitch is faster than IHart and also can guard the perimeter and does that quite a bit. The mass hysteria over losing this guy is amazing

Chandler @ 7/3/2024 10:25 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some unhappy Knick fans may think.

it is a lot of money but marginal utility is a real thing (not something i created or my opinion). More money does not bring meaningfully more happiness to those who are already rich. (it has a bigger impact on those who are poor) Experiences and connection to others does, as does a sense of purpose. Psychology of Happiness and all that stuff.

Many years ago I recall an article asking about what the "number" is beyond which someone lived as well as all of those who are richer. I wish I could find the article but it was at least 20 if not 30 years ago. It was essentially a thought experiment saying how many homes could you possibly want and where, and where would you eat all the time taking into account that after a while jet setting among 10 homes might get tedious after the novelty wears off and you might just prefer a mere two or three. Long story short, the number then was about a 100 million, and it was being compared to multi-billionaires. Obviously the numbers now are higher but the point is still the same. After a point you don't want, or need the money, even for stupid purchases, then fold in one might be the type of person who doesn't like to make stupid purchases

Not wishing him ill-will at all. But i do think he may regret it

foosballnick @ 7/3/2024 11:22 AM
Chandler wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
Chandler wrote:If a guy can't figure it out with 72 million he has major problems with numeracy.

one day he'll wake up staring at his gilded ceiling in OKC and say to himself WTF. But at least he'll be able to console himeself with the lower cost of living resulting from eating at Denny's and Craker Barrel rather than Jean George and whatever other fancy schmancy places NYC offers.

hope he likes rodeo

If a company offered you 60% more for the same job in OKC over the same job in NYC, you'd go too.


I can't say that I would. Like i said elsewhere, the marginal utility once you're in that range is not as big as you think.

Don’t know from what experience you speak but $15 million is a shit load of money.
When he wakes up he will be laying next to a model, a beautiful kid in the next room, a gorgeous house and access to many fine restaurants. He will also be part one of the best young basketball teams in the world. And yes, still have the ability to visit those restaurants in NYC you think he can’t live without.

The NBA is a business first and foremost for players like IHart. He may only get one big contract. As mentioned, his chances at a ring may have improved. So there is that. He made the right move for himself. Despite what some unhappy Knick fans may think.

it is a lot of money but marginal utility is a real thing (not something i created or my opinion). More money does not bring meaningfully more happiness to those who are already rich. (it has a bigger impact on those who are poor) Experiences and connection to others does, as does a sense of purpose. Psychology of Happiness and all that stuff.

Many years ago I recall an article asking about what the "number" is beyond which someone lived as well as all of those who are richer. I wish I could find the article but it was at least 20 if not 30 years ago. It was essentially a thought experiment saying how many homes could you possibly want and where, and where would you eat all the time taking into account that after a while jet setting among 10 homes might get tedious after the novelty wears off and you might just prefer a mere two or three. Long story short, the number then was about a 100 million, and it was being compared to multi-billionaires. Obviously the numbers now are higher but the point is still the same. After a point you don't want, or need the money, even for stupid purchases, then fold in one might be the type of person who doesn't like to make stupid purchases

Not wishing him ill-will at all. But i do think he may regret it


For me it comes down to guaranteed money rather than number of contract years. IHart will make his $59.5M guaranteed with the Thunder over 2 years. After that the likelihood of OKC paying for his 3rd year @ $27M+ seems slim to me considering they will have to pay Chet and SGA's salary will continue to escalate to $40M range. The Knicks offered $72M+ guaranteed over 4 years. This is not as simple as simply stating that IHart will get $15M more with OKC. There are potential injuries to consider as well as future performance and earning potential. Also, the Knicks may have built in player options and allowed him to re-negotiated his contract as well to potentially increase his salary.

Good for him as he's going to a good team and betting on himself as an earner 3 years out. This does not mean that the longer term financial differential will ultimately be favorable by making the decision to talk front-loaded cash. It also does not take into account his wife's financial impacts as a model by moving from NY to OKC, nor any endorsement impacts.

ToddTT @ 7/3/2024 3:53 PM
I hate this thread. Let's make it better.

Knicksfan @ 7/4/2024 4:14 PM
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