Knicks · what's the timeline for extending Brunson/Randle? (page 3)

DLeethal @ 7/12/2024 8:06 PM
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

Clean @ 7/12/2024 8:18 PM
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

DLeethal @ 7/12/2024 8:30 PM
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

martin @ 7/12/2024 8:49 PM
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Clean @ 7/12/2024 8:52 PM
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Its actually about 12 to 13mil per season. Watch this video he explains it very well.

ToddTT @ 7/12/2024 8:53 PM
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

One in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Alpha, BDG, LL... get your minds out of the gutter.

DLeethal @ 7/12/2024 9:11 PM
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

martin @ 7/12/2024 9:20 PM
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

Actual math that make sense. Your numbers are not correct. Clean put out a video. Go catch a Fred article. Drink something heavy. It’s Friday night.

martin @ 7/12/2024 9:21 PM
Also this

Clean @ 7/12/2024 9:30 PM
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

What you are not understanding is he will make way more in his 10th year if he signs now than if he signs the extention next year since you get a huge jump in pay as a 10 year vet that with the extra 10% cap raises will cover what he is missing by signing early.

Sign now his 10th year will include the multple 10% cap raises and the huge jump in pay for being a 10 year vet.
Sign next season his 10th year his career will be on old cap numbers so it will not include the extra cap raises and it won't include the 10th career year jump is pay.

DLeethal @ 7/12/2024 9:50 PM
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

Actual math that make sense. Your numbers are not correct. Clean put out a video. Go catch a Fred article. Drink something heavy. It’s Friday night.

I watched the video. It doesn't say anything outside of he can catch his 10 year extension on the 10th year with this set up. I fail to see how that explains him somehow making up that 100M on the backend. He can make the same amount of money on the backend.

DLeethal @ 7/12/2024 9:58 PM
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

What you are not understanding is he will make way more in his 10th year if he signs now than if he signs the extention next year since you get a huge jump in pay as a 10 year vet that with the extra 10% cap raises will cover what he is missing by signing early.

Sign now his 10th year will include the multple 10% cap raises and the huge jump in pay for being a 10 year vet.
Sign next season his 10th year his career will be on old cap numbers so it will not include the extra cap raises and it won't include the 10th career year jump is pay.

That jump in pay is coming regardless. He can ride it from years 11-15 instead of 10-14 after collecting an additional 100M on the frontend if he wanted to. And you can play the same game on the backend of the latter mega deal - he can start it a year earlier or if he waits an extra year he will enjoy a massive salary in year 15 instead of signing a new deal as an elder statesmen for a fraction of that ala CP3's contract last year versus this year. That 100M he's leaving on the table isn't miraculously coming back.

Clean @ 7/12/2024 10:09 PM
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

Actual math that make sense. Your numbers are not correct. Clean put out a video. Go catch a Fred article. Drink something heavy. It’s Friday night.

I watched the video. It doesn't say anything outside of he can catch his 10 year extension on the 10th year with this set up. I fail to see how that explains him somehow making up that 100M on the backend. He can make the same amount of money on the backend.

He is not giving up 100mil the actual saving is only 37mil. When Woj says 113mil guaranteed he is talking about over the length of the 1st contract. The thing he is not saying is if he signs the contract early its shorter so he can get a new contract faster. The new contract will be way bigger for the overlapping years that the contract he would have had if he waited was. The difference in the 2nd contract overlapping years vs the delayed 1st contract is what make it so Brunson is making back the lost money. I hope I answered that in a way that was easy to understand.


This chart that Woj also tweeted that shows the actual savings is 37mil. The actual paycut is on the right side.

martin @ 7/12/2024 10:16 PM
Panos @ 7/12/2024 10:37 PM
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he has a career ending injury in the next 3 years, that extension and $100m never hits. So no.

martin @ 7/12/2024 11:02 PM
Panos wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he has a career ending injury in the next 3 years, that extension and $100m never hits. So no.

Someone needs to send this to Brunson in case he didn’t realize it. Sam prob forgot to tell him.

BigDaddyG @ 7/13/2024 1:05 AM
ToddTT wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

One in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Alpha, BDG, LL... get your minds out of the gutter.


Mind? My entire being is submerged in the gutter, mind body and soul. But still...two in the bush sounds hairy.
FrenchKnicks @ 7/13/2024 3:07 AM
martin wrote:
Panos wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he has a career ending injury in the next 3 years, that extension and $100m never hits. So no.

Someone needs to send this to Brunson in case he didn’t realize it. Sam prob forgot to tell him.

how many « career-ending injuries » have you seen a 30yo get in the NBA ? Risk is low IMHO
in the same logic, he could get a career-ending injury THIS YEAR, so he really secures 150mil with his new extension which you also have to factor in the decision

I’m just saying this looks like a very smart business decision by him, not a 100mil gift the NY Post is writing about

Rookie @ 7/13/2024 4:05 AM
In related news Brunson’s Dad, Rick Brunson, just signed a 33.1M extension making him the highest paid assistant coach in Knicks history
Panos @ 7/13/2024 8:02 AM
FrenchKnicks wrote:
martin wrote:
Panos wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.
If he has a career ending injury in the next 3 years, that extension and $100m never hits. So no.
Someone needs to send this to Brunson in case he didn;t realize it. Sam prob forgot to tell him.
how many career-ending injuries; have you seen a 30yo get in the NBA ? Risk is low IMHO
in the same logic, he could get a career-ending injury THIS YEAR, so he really secures 150mil with his new extension which you also have to factor in the decision

I;m just saying this looks like a very smart business decision by him, not a 100mil gift the NY Post is writing about

This is true, I agree. And his 150 mil is multi generational wealth

DLeethal @ 7/13/2024 8:10 AM
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
martin wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
DLeethal wrote:
Clean wrote:
This part is what I was talking about before. He will make that money back anyway on his next deal. So instead of a paycut it is a payment deferred.

If he signed the big extension now and bigger extension later would that 100M still not be left on the table? Don’t really see how the fact that he can sign a big deal later changes anything about what he can sign now.

With him signing now his next extension he will be a 10 year vet(a huge money increase). Plus the raises in the cap will increase his pay even more. He will be making like 81mil a year. If he signed next year he would lose a year of that huge money and be able to get an extension on his 11th year. So things will even out anyway but signing the extension now helps the team a hell of a lot more.

“Evening out” still seems like a massive stretch. He’s taking a 100M paycut in his prime and it evens out because he can sign his latter mega deal, which still has lots of uncertainty and risk attached to him, 1 year earlier?

Over the next 8 years Brunson will net nearly the same total as taking the smaller $ up front and then back loading most of the rest. If that is not your baseline assumption than you are talking about 2 different things quite frankly.

If you only think of this in terms of the first 4 years, of course it is different.

If you think like Brunson, he is able to add one of his groomsman and probably the other groomsman from last year on to his team for the difference in what he’ll make over 8 years.

So, less money now plus DDV and Mikal or the whole enchilada and only chill with Josh while not having as much to run to the finals with.

If you can’t look at it this way, you are missing out on hanging with ya boys while already being fatter rich than you own head is fat.

Why can't he take he take the bigger $ up front and still backload the rest though?

Using simple math ...

Sign 4 years 150 now, then 5 years 400 for the following 5 years
Sign 5 years 250 next year, then 5 years 400 for following 5 years

Not sure what I'm missing, outside of that 100M still being gone and Brunson getting deeper into his 30s off that second mega deal by waiting a year.

Actual math that make sense. Your numbers are not correct. Clean put out a video. Go catch a Fred article. Drink something heavy. It’s Friday night.

I watched the video. It doesn't say anything outside of he can catch his 10 year extension on the 10th year with this set up. I fail to see how that explains him somehow making up that 100M on the backend. He can make the same amount of money on the backend.

He is not giving up 100mil the actual saving is only 37mil. When Woj says 113mil guaranteed he is talking about over the length of the 1st contract. The thing he is not saying is if he signs the contract early its shorter so he can get a new contract faster. The new contract will be way bigger for the overlapping years that the contract he would have had if he waited was. The difference in the 2nd contract overlapping years vs the delayed 1st contract is what make it so Brunson is making back the lost money. I hope I answered that in a way that was easy to understand.


This chart that Woj also tweeted that shows the actual savings is 37mil. The actual paycut is on the right side.

Understood about the overlapping year but on the tail end of his career there will be a big hit also by not waiting. Would be like CP3’s mega deal ending a year early and replacing a 50M contract with 8-10M at age 35 or whatever. And either way we will have to see if Brunson’s goal is to ever get a mega deal or keep giving the team flexibility to continue the winning.

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