GustavBahler wrote:VDesai wrote:I might need to start freaking out again cuz his shot is broke again!
Wonder how much stamina is playing a part? Number one in the league.
He looks banged up...he has not been moving well last several games....when he hits the ground, he is very slow to get up....
Uptown wrote:GustavBahler wrote:VDesai wrote:I might need to start freaking out again cuz his shot is broke again!
Wonder how much stamina is playing a part? Number one in the league.
He looks banged up...he has not been moving well last several games....when he hits the ground, he is very slow to get up....
True. His shot mechanics still look really tired. 
Think he got away from mid game though.
I think he should start improving his form by stopping his silly head jiggle/tongue out after 3pts.
Panos wrote:I think he should start improving his form by stopping his silly head jiggle/tongue out after 3pts.
Yeah, either that or double down on it and do it after misses too :) he definitely needs to do something tho
Panos wrote:VDesai wrote:While Bridges is playing like crap, would you insert McBride into the SL over him?
I'm still thinking, as I thought from the beginning that Hart + Bridges + OG is not the desired 2-3-4 players. At the time, though I thought it would be Hart to the bench for Precious. Even though I thought Bridges was an overpay (something which Martin made sure to call me "insane" for thinking), I didn't expect him to come off the bench. Now I don't know WHO should be starting. If Precious over Bridges, we have no real 2 guard in the line up. At this point, I would 100% trade Mikal for DVD and hope he could round back into the shape he was in with us last year - only I don't think we're allowed to.
JB
DDV
Hart
OG
KAT
I still don't think Hart + Bridges + OG is the desired starting 2-3-4. We could use a sniper in there. And we're not getting the defense out of this trio that we expected so why stick with it? We have so many options:
Improve defense (twin towers): Huk - Towns - OG - Mikal - JB (Need some shot blocking, Huk SMASH!)
Improve defense (traditional): Towns - Precious - OG - Hart - JB (get some beef up front, move OG back to SF)
Improve shooting: Towns - OG - Hart - Deuce - JB (replace Mikal's shooting with Deuce)
Relieve JB pressure: Towns - Hart - Mikal - JB - Kolek (four ball handlers, if Mikal steps up)
I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Panos wrote:Panos wrote:VDesai wrote:While Bridges is playing like crap, would you insert McBride into the SL over him?
I'm still thinking, as I thought from the beginning that Hart + Bridges + OG is not the desired 2-3-4 players. At the time, though I thought it would be Hart to the bench for Precious. Even though I thought Bridges was an overpay (something which Martin made sure to call me "insane" for thinking), I didn't expect him to come off the bench. Now I don't know WHO should be starting. If Precious over Bridges, we have no real 2 guard in the line up. At this point, I would 100% trade Mikal for DVD and hope he could round back into the shape he was in with us last year - only I don't think we're allowed to.
JB
DDV
Hart
OG
KAT
I still don't think Hart + Bridges + OG is the desired starting 2-3-4. We could use a sniper in there. And we're not getting the defense out of this trio that we expected so why stick with it? We have so many options:
Improve defense (twin towers): Huk - Towns - OG - Mikal - JB (Need some shot blocking, Huk SMASH!)
Improve defense (traditional): Towns - Precious - OG - Hart - JB (get some beef up front, move OG back to SF)
Improve shooting: Towns - OG - Hart - Deuce - JB (replace Mikal's shooting with Deuce)
Relieve JB pressure: Towns - Hart - Mikal - JB - Kolek (four ball handlers, if Mikal steps up)
You should know by now, Thibs doesn’t care about options. He settles on a lineup and uses his in game rotations to shake things up.
VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Mikal is better when he’s the focal point. He can do more than just catch and shoot. But on this team that’s his role. And he has to perfect that. Otherwise Thibs needs to bench him or reduce his mins.
blkexec wrote:VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Mikal is better when he’s the focal point. He can do more than just catch and shoot. But on this team that’s his role. And he has to perfect that. Otherwise Thibs needs to bench him or reduce his mins.
Bridges has had plenty of games this year where he showed more than just catch and shoot...He is leathal from the mid-range and was one of the reasons he dropped 41 on the Spurs. Catch and shoot should not be his role and the last few games he has gone away from it...We need to get Bridges going early and get him looks, whether its cutting and or som mid-range looks...
Uptown wrote:blkexec wrote:VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Mikal is better when he’s the focal point. He can do more than just catch and shoot. But on this team that’s his role. And he has to perfect that. Otherwise Thibs needs to bench him or reduce his mins.
Bridges has had plenty of games this year where he showed more than just catch and shoot...He is leathal from the mid-range and was one of the reasons he dropped 41 on the Spurs. Catch and shoot should not be his role and the last few games he has gone away from it...We need to get Bridges going early and get him looks, whether its cutting and or som mid-range looks...
Mikal seems to have big games when he starts with some assisted cuts to the rim. Then that midrange and only after that gets his 3 point going. He is amazing catch and shoot in those corners. His off the dribble 3 is an adventure tho.
VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Seems like it will be like this with him unless something in the gameplan changes.
He is as much of an enigma as the rest of the team.
Knicksfan wrote:VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Seems like it will be like this with him unless something in the gameplan changes.
He is as much of an enigma as the rest of the team.
JB is not an enigma - he's a bad-ass, tough player that plays his ass off every night in spite of getting the crap beat out of him. Occassionally, has an off night. Sure, he could run more plays/set up teammates a bit more. Esp with other teams double teamming him. Gets better all the time. If he were 6'6' he'd be a serious MVP candidate. We know what he is, Not an Enigma.
Towns is not an enigma - he's an inside/outside terrific scorer, rebounds at a high rate, that struggles a little with defending the rim, and with offensive fouls. He is better than I thought before he got here, I admit. He's not a pussy. Complains a bit too much. Not an enigma either.
OG is a terrific defender, can score when set up. Can't create for himself, bad handle. Not enigmatic.
Hart what can't be said about this guy? Shit, I'd take 3 of him. He's a freakin warrior. He's Anthony Mason in Latrell Sprewell's body.
Bridges. Maybe a bit of an enigma. Dude should have a much bigger role on this team, if he could just be more consistent. I continue to argue that he should be more involved as a playmaker to give JB some room. Maybe if he plays as a distributor for a spell, he can settle down. His defense is not up to what was advertised. He's still got a lot to prove to me.
I can't figure out Bridges at all, but I will say he kept Dame pretty quiet in the 2nd half. He made that first 3, but he missed one after and then seemed afraid to shoot. Then there were times where had a wide open lane to drive into and he's wildly passing the ball off. In addition to bad passes, he's caused several 24 second violations b/c he lacks confidence in his offense right now.
I don't understand how it could start so bad, get so good for a period, and then get so bad again. Everyone has ups and downs, but this is totally extended feast and famine and this is not a player who had that reputation coming in.
Im seeing OG working more iso when they create a switch to take advantage of. OG gets the occasional offensive foul as he did last night putting his shoulder into the defender and fucking him up a bit. With Randle gone and Kat out int he perimeter things open up with cutters moving about.
Is it perfect? No, a work in progress they seem to adding two. OG seems to not have it down when to keep dribbling and when to pass out but he is not selfish by nature and when he drives the base line drawing help he is very good at finding an open man!
One can find his warts, but there is plenty to be happy about most the time.
Panos wrote:Knicksfan wrote:VDesai wrote:I didn't know that he was so erratic. We are f'd till he busts out of this slump.
Seems like it will be like this with him unless something in the gameplan changes.
He is as much of an enigma as the rest of the team.
JB is not an enigma - he's a bad-ass, tough player that plays his ass off every night in spite of getting the crap beat out of him. Occassionally, has an off night. Sure, he could run more plays/set up teammates a bit more. Esp with other teams double teamming him. Gets better all the time. If he were 6'6' he'd be a serious MVP candidate. We know what he is, Not an Enigma.
Towns is not an enigma - he's an inside/outside terrific scorer, rebounds at a high rate, that struggles a little with defending the rim, and with offensive fouls. He is better than I thought before he got here, I admit. He's not a pussy. Complains a bit too much. Not an enigma either.
OG is a terrific defender, can score when set up. Can't create for himself, bad handle. Not enigmatic.
Hart what can't be said about this guy? Shit, I'd take 3 of him. He's a freakin warrior. He's Anthony Mason in Latrell Sprewell's body.
Bridges. Maybe a bit of an enigma. Dude should have a much bigger role on this team, if he could just be more consistent. I continue to argue that he should be more involved as a playmaker to give JB some room. Maybe if he plays as a distributor for a spell, he can settle down. His defense is not up to what was advertised. He's still got a lot to prove to me.
Agreed, JB is a stud. I think his off nights are directly associated with being guarded by athletic 6'10-7' wingspan players. He can tear most of the league up. But you put SGA or Ant on him and he struggles. Especially if he isn't getting the foul calls.
Towns is puzzling me, leading to the enigma standard. I never expected him to rebound so well. I expected him to shoot from outside more. I expected him to drive less. Also, don't think he is getting the love on the drives. I expected the offense to start with Towns in the high post with all wings moving for a motion offense set, and in the last 7 seconds of the clock, for Brunson to get to work to create his own shot. Towns reading pick and pops/pick and rolls off Brunson.
Bridges is underperforming my expectations and pretty volatile in his scoring. Feast or famine. I expected to get a 20% usage 3&D with a good midrange - but got a midrange shooter. I have faith in this man, but certainly looking for more consistency in his game.
The 3 point shooting has been awful in the last 10 games or so (excluding last night). Not sure if it is the legs, the coaching, just a slump or what. But when they are on from 3 they win by 30+.
I don't see Towns as an enigma at all. Its pretty clear that if he can stay on the floor long enough to get 15 shots he's probably getting 30 and 15. With him its the foul trouble that hurts you. And he has to stop yelling at the official after every shot he takes b/c teams basically start running on us once he gets the ball in the lane.
The freak parade asks one look at his splits......
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pla...I have not but often look at a players last 5 or 10 games to decipher current trend.
He did have a great December1. 40% from the 3!
He does well at home, but better vs. Western conf. teams.
While we look at his stats, might we consider who and how teams guard him? come credit to some that execute well vs. him?
Sometimes that matters, right? Of course.
Does anything jump off the pages?
What a ride this guy has us on. Couldn't buy a shot for a couple weeks and then couldn't miss last night. I hope we have another hot streak coming. Just need to call him out for a couple days here and he gets his shot fixed.
VDesai wrote:What a ride this guy has us on. Couldn't buy a shot for a couple weeks and then couldn't miss last night. I hope we have another hot streak coming. Just need to call him out for a couple days here and he gets his shot fixed.
Or maybe we could use a real offensive system that accentuates a players strengths. Maybe more curls into the mid range with KAT initiating from the high post. I think this would be good for Brunson as well when he's guarded by the next twitchy, lengthy 6'7" freak.
Didn't even know wrist height was measured
martin wrote:Didn't even know wrist height was measured
I knew they measured the vertical jumps in shots. That was a narrative for Brunson during last year's playoffs when he was fatigued. I guess wrist height would be a more accurate measurement of elevation.
