How long does it typically take a rookie to learn a defense and offense to not fuck up the rest of what is going on on the court?
Miami team typically ramps up all those second round guys over a couple of years before they get playing time, as an example.
Is it luck? Could be. Could it be something else? Do not know.
martin wrote:Clean wrote:Why should we embrace a flaw rather than him fix it? It just does not make sense to me. Bondy also makes the assumption the players not playing will not be able to help. From what evidence is he basing that on? Huk helped very well everytime asked. Kolek helped recently with a +11 in 12 minutes then back to no time. Thibs made the assumption Burks could not help in the playoffs no matter how many injuries we suffered. He was proven wrong because Burks did help the second he actually got a chance due to us being so injured. Sorry if I don't agree with a reporter making assumptions off little to no evidence pointing in the direction of the the assumption he is making. Even if their help is limited it will help keep the starters more fresh anyway. Shooting has gone down steadily over time. 2nd halves have become hold on tight to the lead we have because our 2nd halves always suck. I wonder if two these things are just a random coincidence? or can they also be explained by tired players? Sorry nothing in that tweet makes sense to me.
What evidence do you have that playing second round picks like Huk is a good thing versus what they have been doing?
Is it better long term, meaning second half of season, to keep the rookies learning until they get to a certain level? Rookies normally hit a wall. Exposure to NBA level defenses and offenses is tough. What is the normal ramp up time for non elite rookies? Why wouldn't you have them progress through GLeague?
There are benefits and downsides to both decisions. You keep assuming that Thibs is wrong after he and staff are watching the kids in practice every day. Why are YOU assuming they can be accomplished playing 10 minutes per and that benefit outweighs what they are going through?
Deuce seems like the perfect recent example.
Since the last game I have literally said I have no evidence either way. That is the problem. They don't have enough time to make a determination yet everyone is saying the bench is thin. How can you say that without giving them a chance? That is my entire point.
Again you are saying until they get a certain level. How would you know what level they are? They get no time.
So lets get this on the record. You think its a good idea to have 4 players in the top 7 of minutes played for the whole season? If the answer to that question is no then you agree with me.
Where have I assumed they will play well? You know what, lets me quote one of my previous posts since people seem to be making things up.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...Does that sound like I am assuming he is going to play well? Even in the post you replied to I said "Even if their help is limited it will help keep the starters more fresh anyway." Does that sound like a person who assumed they will play well? I don't mind having debates but at least debate me on my actual stance on the topic.
Clean wrote:martin wrote:Clean wrote:Why should we embrace a flaw rather than him fix it? It just does not make sense to me. Bondy also makes the assumption the players not playing will not be able to help. From what evidence is he basing that on? Huk helped very well everytime asked. Kolek helped recently with a +11 in 12 minutes then back to no time. Thibs made the assumption Burks could not help in the playoffs no matter how many injuries we suffered. He was proven wrong because Burks did help the second he actually got a chance due to us being so injured. Sorry if I don't agree with a reporter making assumptions off little to no evidence pointing in the direction of the the assumption he is making. Even if their help is limited it will help keep the starters more fresh anyway. Shooting has gone down steadily over time. 2nd halves have become hold on tight to the lead we have because our 2nd halves always suck. I wonder if two these things are just a random coincidence? or can they also be explained by tired players? Sorry nothing in that tweet makes sense to me.
What evidence do you have that playing second round picks like Huk is a good thing versus what they have been doing?
Is it better long term, meaning second half of season, to keep the rookies learning until they get to a certain level? Rookies normally hit a wall. Exposure to NBA level defenses and offenses is tough. What is the normal ramp up time for non elite rookies? Why wouldn't you have them progress through GLeague?
There are benefits and downsides to both decisions. You keep assuming that Thibs is wrong after he and staff are watching the kids in practice every day. Why are YOU assuming they can be accomplished playing 10 minutes per and that benefit outweighs what they are going through?
Deuce seems like the perfect recent example.
Since the last game I have literally said I have no evidence either way. That is the problem. They don't have enough time to make a determination yet everyone is saying the bench is thin. How can you say that without giving them a chance? That is my entire point.
Again you are saying until they get a certain level. How would you know what level they are? They get no time.
So lets get this on the record. You think its a good idea to have 4 players in the top 7 of minutes played for the whole season? If the answer to that question is no then you agree with me.
Where have I assumed they will play well? You know what, lets me quote one of my previous posts since people seem to be making things up.
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...Does that sound like I am assuming he is going to play well? Even in the post you replied to I said "Even if their help is limited it will help keep the starters more fresh anyway." Does that sound like a person who assumed they will play well? I don't mind having debates but at least debate me on my actual stance on the topic.
Fans can’t tell but that’s exactly the job of coaches. Every single one of them. In every sport. At every single level. The final step is obviously in game.
