I think when they took Gueye out of the game, shifted things, besides our careless mistakes. He was -19. I want to steal Daniels from them.
A win in the second game of a back to back, minus OG, against a young athletic team, I'll take it. Atlanta did good in that trade, Lavert and Giang are good for them.
Don't know if my expectations are too high but I thought Precious could have played much better last night and then I look at the boxscore and he was stellar stat-wise.
Don't know what to make of that. Like, he could have even been better?
ToddTT wrote:
The quote, "Expectations are the theif of joy" comes to mind when reading some of posta in this thread. I get it, some of us want more and are eyes focus more on the negative than the positive. If anything, the team has grit. fight and we have a closer! I know some won't give a shit, but last night was the 2nd of a bsck to back....
KAT gets game ball. He carried the team when no one could buy a basket
Of course there’s the bone headed in bound pass but I’m wondering why he was even inbounding in that situation where you know there will be pressure.
Dyson daniels can play. Very quick hands.
When we went down 5 in OT I thought we wouldn't come back. Generally when a tired team blows a lead like that and goes down early in OT, the fatigue sets in and teams concede. That was resilient to fight back.
Complete chaos at the end of regulation. Knicks have to know how to close out a lead in these situations. How often have we had trouble inbounding the basketball?
For me, this was both a good win and a bad one. Good that they got the win for all the grit and whatever reasons.
Not so good in that they really didn't have an offensive flow? Maybe I was too in and out when watching but things didn't look easy on O, it was just pure talent with KAT and Brunson.
Maybe that shouldn't be thing though, I can't tell.
Uptown wrote:The quote, "Expectations are the theif of joy" comes to mind when reading some of posta in this thread. I get it, some of us want more and are eyes focus more on the negative than the positive. If anything, the team has grit. fight and we have a closer! I know some won't give a shit, but last night was the 2nd of a bsck to back....
I think that's "comparison" not expectations but that surely works here...
Its like 3 guys. Knicks have best record since the 70s and we got minutes police, we got "feels like a loss"
This is a really good team and a squad with grit. They dont quit and we have one of the best finishers in the game. Brunson's late 3s have been wildly clutch.
fishmike wrote:Uptown wrote:The quote, "Expectations are the theif of joy" comes to mind when reading some of posta in this thread. I get it, some of us want more and are eyes focus more on the negative than the positive. If anything, the team has grit. fight and we have a closer! I know some won't give a shit, but last night was the 2nd of a bsck to back....
I think that's "comparison" not expectations but that surely works here...Its like 3 guys. Knicks have best record since the 70s and we got minutes police, we got "feels like a loss"
This is a really good team and a squad with grit. They dont quit and we have one of the best finishers in the game. Brunson's late 3s have been wildly clutch.
You are correct....good catch....Expectations of the season ( I've seen some people amd writers say it's ECF or bust which is asinine) and Comparison to last year's team that has robbed the joy for some. This is year one for this current team and all we have done is get off to the best start since the championship years.
The 2 teams ahead of us in the east have been together way longer than we have been....are there some warts? Absolutely....but we have at least a 3-4 years window....looking forward to the ride
Cannot lose when Emmy is there! 
I was chilling and ready to go to bed and we choke away a 6 point lead in the last 18 seconds in dramatic fashion and almost gave me a heart attack! Brought back my PTSD from Reggie Miller shoving Greg Anthony and then stealing the inbound pass from Mase and you all know the rest. I love KAT and he had a monster game, second straight over 40, but he almost had an epic collapse with that inbound pass and getting beat for that rebound in the final seconds. Kudos to the team for staying poised and finishing the game in OT, even after getting down 5 early. Brunson hit all the big shots and he did it against one of the top if not the top perimeter defender in Daniels. I also loved that bullet pass to Precious for the dunk!
Don't wanna bitch too much about KAT cause back to back 40 point games is crazy and he looks healed from that thumb injury. His 3 point shooting looks fluid and he's shooting it well and from deep but his rebounding is off lately. He's not rebounding with the same passion or effort the last few games. Almost cost us the game! Thank goodness for the Captain. He's easily the most clutch player we've ever had.
Precious with a career high 26! Payne once gave us some big minutes. He's an absolute steal for the minimum! I know Kolek is the future but Payne has been underrated this season.
Freaking HATE Trae Young but you have to give him respect. I hate the way he plays but he's another one of those guys who doesn't have the elite measurables or athleticism but he just knows how to cheat the system and play the game. Bridges plays him better than anyone and there is just not much you can do when that little troll is shooting from the logo and hitting those floaters. A big thank you to Niang for missing that last one too. Thought that was going in! So wish we had a Niang and LaVert on our bench.
36-18 at the break! Best record in decades and we're getting Mitch and OG back!
NYStateOfMind wrote:I think when they took Gueye out of the game, shifted things, besides our careless mistakes. He was -19. I want to steal Daniels from them.
This Gueye kid is the worst player I've ever seen since Ntilikina.
We seemed to be flowing up till the point we went up 18 in the 2nd quarter. After that it seemed Atlanta put some serious clamps down and it became tough. We still had a few 8-0 type runs and pushed the lead back up to 10-12 a few more times, but at that point it was individual brilliance from KAT and some individual brilliance from Cam Payne too.
KAT was awesome, but Okongwu just dominated him on the glass. KAT has been so good rebounding, but I felt like he couldn't box out Okongwu. We also stopped almost no one in drop coverage. One man back and we never block a shot or deter a shot at the rim. I guess he was just tired at the end of the game. That said the thumb seems to be better so he's shooting the 3 more frequently again and he seems to gotten his stroke back.
Precious had the clutch putback but also made 2 clutch FT near the end of regulation. I was impressed and slightly shocked when he stepped up and canned 2.
martin wrote:For me, this was both a good win and a bad one. Good that they got the win for all the grit and whatever reasons.Not so good in that they really didn't have an offensive flow? Maybe I was too in and out when watching but things didn't look easy on O, it was just pure talent with KAT and Brunson.
Maybe that shouldn't be thing though, I can't tell.
4 reactions:
1. I thought we had something of flow but what we really lacked was killer instinct. We were up 18 and expected them to fold. If Boston were up 18 they'd be trying to get up by 30
2. OG makes things different on offense too. He could do all the cuts Precious was doing, but he's also a reliable threat at 3 opening things up better for Brunson
3. Dyson was a bigger threat to us than Trae. He had a lot of steals and deflections and generally disruptive of Jalen. Atlanta got a lot of points off turnovers
4. No disrespect to Precious but for all of his rebounds and general style of play we got outrebounded. I'm not sure that would happen with OG starting and P coming off bench.
VDesai wrote:Precious had the clutch putback but also made 2 clutch FT near the end of regulation. I was impressed and slightly shocked when he stepped up and canned 2.
I was more shocked to see he was shooting FT at like 60% on the season. He seemed to have his form down and poised when i bothered to watch.
The clutch factor though is key. He also hit some shots left handed
martin wrote:Don't know if my expectations are too high but I thought Precious could have played much better last night and then I look at the boxscore and he was stellar stat-wise.Don't know what to make of that. Like, he could have even been better?
ToddTT wrote:
Precious had a career game last night.
martin wrote:For me, this was both a good win and a bad one. Good that they got the win for all the grit and whatever reasons.Not so good in that they really didn't have an offensive flow? Maybe I was too in and out when watching but things didn't look easy on O, it was just pure talent with KAT and Brunson.
Maybe that shouldn't be thing though, I can't tell.
You have to give the hawks credit they can play D especially on the perimeter they have lots of big long guys that are laterally quick
Uptown wrote:fishmike wrote:Uptown wrote:The quote, "Expectations are the theif of joy" comes to mind when reading some of posta in this thread. I get it, some of us want more and are eyes focus more on the negative than the positive. If anything, the team has grit. fight and we have a closer! I know some won't give a shit, but last night was the 2nd of a bsck to back....
I think that's "comparison" not expectations but that surely works here...Its like 3 guys. Knicks have best record since the 70s and we got minutes police, we got "feels like a loss"
This is a really good team and a squad with grit. They dont quit and we have one of the best finishers in the game. Brunson's late 3s have been wildly clutch.
You are correct....good catch....Expectations of the season ( I've seen some people amd writers say it's ECF or bust) and Comparison tje last year's team that has robbed the joy from some. This is year one for this current team and all we have done is get off to the best start since the championship years.
The 2 teams ahead of us in the east have been together way longer than we have been....are there some warts? Absolutely....but we have at least a 3-4 years window....looking forward to the ride
this... we got the hardest parts to get starting with the star closer. Brunson is also becoming a better defender through the game as well. His ability to his these clutch jumpers in crunch time is truly elite.
At this point he's a more eff% Lillard which... is why he's starting the all star game. All these core guys are such hard workers as is Thibs. I love watching the team after a loss. They are so pissed. We had that 3 game losing streak and we lost @Hou/@atl early in the year. That's it. Those are our losing streaks. That's what I like most about our playoff chances. We can take a loss and bounce back. In fact I expect us to
Chandler wrote:martin wrote:For me, this was both a good win and a bad one. Good that they got the win for all the grit and whatever reasons.Not so good in that they really didn't have an offensive flow? Maybe I was too in and out when watching but things didn't look easy on O, it was just pure talent with KAT and Brunson.
Maybe that shouldn't be thing though, I can't tell.
4 reactions:
1. I thought we had something of flow but what we really lacked was killer instinct. We were up 18 and expected them to fold. If Boston were up 18 they'd be trying to get up by 30
2. OG makes things different on offense too. He could do all the cuts Precious was doing, but he's also a reliable threat at 3 opening things up better for Brunson
3. Dyson was a bigger threat to us than Trae. He had a lot of steals and deflections and generally disruptive of Jalen. Atlanta got a lot of points off turnovers
4. No disrespect to Precious but for all of his rebounds and general style of play we got outrebounded. I'm not sure that would happen with OG starting and P coming off bench.
Mikal and Josh were playing like they were hung over or really ready for the All star break. Or tired, got to always throw that in this year I guess.
martin wrote:Chandler wrote:martin wrote:For me, this was both a good win and a bad one. Good that they got the win for all the grit and whatever reasons.Not so good in that they really didn't have an offensive flow? Maybe I was too in and out when watching but things didn't look easy on O, it was just pure talent with KAT and Brunson.
Maybe that shouldn't be thing though, I can't tell.
4 reactions:
1. I thought we had something of flow but what we really lacked was killer instinct. We were up 18 and expected them to fold. If Boston were up 18 they'd be trying to get up by 30
2. OG makes things different on offense too. He could do all the cuts Precious was doing, but he's also a reliable threat at 3 opening things up better for Brunson
3. Dyson was a bigger threat to us than Trae. He had a lot of steals and deflections and generally disruptive of Jalen. Atlanta got a lot of points off turnovers
4. No disrespect to Precious but for all of his rebounds and general style of play we got outrebounded. I'm not sure that would happen with OG starting and P coming off bench.
Mikal and Josh were playing like they were hung over or really ready for the All star break. Or tired, got to always throw that in this year I guess.
Did you see the Hawks get 6 offensive rebounds in one possession in the final minute or two of the first quarter? That's a huge defensive problem we have as a team. Thibs better get on theses guys. We need to do a better job. Any dreams of a deep playoff run can be put to rest if we cannot box out. Simple as that
