Knicks · GameThread: Knicks @ Detroit with a rest option for NY. 7pm MSG (page 4)

LivingLegend @ 4/11/2025 2:52 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
martin wrote:What?

It felt like Deuce either blew a layup or got swatted at rim about 10 times last night.

For all the love - Deuce is SUPER UNDERWHELMING. Cade simply abused him and again he is up down shooting the ball.

It was weird to see Deuce almost exclusively on Cade right? Cade is very very good and seemed to get away with that forearm shove a ton.

I really do feel like they were keeping Bridges away from Cade just to minimize opportunities for Cade to get used to Mikal. Mikal's length definitely could be a key particularly because Cade likes to post up so much.

The Cade EXTENDED forearm shove is ridiculous -- he's blatantly extending and shoving off with it more than I can recall.

LivingLegend @ 4/11/2025 2:58 PM
martin wrote:
LivingLegend wrote:
DLeethal wrote:This team is better than last year but I sure miss the days when we would do the punking. We need to reload on toughness this offseason.

Also Cam Payne ain't it. Play Delon.

I believe Cam Payne has the highest plus minus on Knicks the entire season - may be wrong and last night he had the highest +6.

Sure some of his shots are whack BUT he pushes the pace, he attacks quickly and he moves the ball. He also hasn't hurt us on D.

Brunson comes in the game and the offense flows like a giant cement mixer --- hate watching iso Brunson offense.

I'm beginning to not like KAT and Brunson offense. Those guys should be much much better at executing and getting going, and not in just an ISO standpoint.

We have an elite center that can catch-shoot and/or catch-drive finish with the very best in the league BUT our PG doesn't even acklowledge Kat on the floor. In fact - if he does acknowledge Kat it's usually to waive him away or he'll give it to him in a non-shooting position if all of his shot options are closed.

This is why we have Kat getting the ball off NO ACTION and standing there going one-one -- eventually crashing to the rim.

Compare that to Porzingis who got at least 10 wide open 3's off action his teammates created for him.

If Derrick White and Porzingis can run pick and pop and get wide open 3's how come Jalen/Kat can't?

One answer is Brunson, another is Thibs not calling that enough and a 3rd is teams leaving Josh Hart to close out on Kat.

LivingLegend @ 4/11/2025 3:01 PM
NYKBocker wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Actually encouraged by the loss. Almost beat the pistons at Detroit without , Hart, OG and Mitch

Felt the same way

Some truth here -- our defensive aggression without OG/Hart/Mitch on going over screens to minimize guys like THJ/Beasley/Tobias was solid.
One issue is our bench is better at defense and 3/5ths of our starting unit isn't playing D.

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