martin wrote:Philc1 wrote:DLeethal wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
If we somehow get Kidd that’s the precursor to Giannis
Possibly
Knicks poach a head coach from another team? With all our future assets?
I think Kidd would be a really good fit here but I wouldn’t give up draft picks for him.
DLeethal wrote:martin wrote:DLeethal wrote:Found this interesting also … Begley reported that Leon hired Johnny Bryant, it was not a Thibs hire, and he felt he was one of the best young coaches and wanted him to be part of the rebuild.
Kenny Payne, Mike Woodson were as well. I think.
Seems like over the years Thibs went from a guy who would do anything for a job and to get another chance, including allowing his boss to dictate his staff, to going back to “my way or the highway” after finding success here. Seems like his refusal to take suggestions on the starting lineup and bench only to do it under desperation later did him in. I could see how that situation would get him fired when the stakes are so high.
Thibs has been known to butt heads with the FO before he did with the bulls they got security to escort him out the building
Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Chandler wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Yeah Dallas is going to want a 1st.
I can’t see these meetings going well … almost seems like a trap for Thibs
Chandler wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Maybe but the interview with Kidd and Nico after trading Luka was pretty crazy. Kidd looked like a hostage being forced to say he loved his captors. He clearly was blindsided by the trade and didn’t support it.
Philc1 wrote:DLeethal wrote:martin wrote:DLeethal wrote:Found this interesting also … Begley reported that Leon hired Johnny Bryant, it was not a Thibs hire, and he felt he was one of the best young coaches and wanted him to be part of the rebuild.
Kenny Payne, Mike Woodson were as well. I think.
Seems like over the years Thibs went from a guy who would do anything for a job and to get another chance, including allowing his boss to dictate his staff, to going back to “my way or the highway” after finding success here. Seems like his refusal to take suggestions on the starting lineup and bench only to do it under desperation later did him in. I could see how that situation would get him fired when the stakes are so high.
Thibs has been known to butt heads with the FO before he did with the bulls they got security to escort him out the building
He got the Don Chaney special, huh?
DLeethal wrote:Chandler wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Maybe but the interview with Kidd and Nico after trading Luka was pretty crazy. Kidd looked like a hostage being forced to say he loved his captors. He clearly was blindsided by the trade and didn’t support it.
Good point - we don't always know what insiders may know. It's possible a guy like Kidd (given the shocking move from Luka) could somehow be more available than we realize.
Philc1 wrote:Chandler wrote:EwingsGlass wrote:Btw, ESPN should follow the Knicks lead and fire SAS. Its time.
between espn and tnt the only people I like are Breen and Harlan. Reggie has been trying really hard to be objective but still fails.
everyone else including shaq and chuck can retire at this point.
Good thing TNt lost the nba. 25 years of Barkley bashing the Knicks f that fat f.
I loved Barkley for the longest time. But it seems lately he just wants lazy, controversial takes rather than anything insightful
always thought Shaq was a dummy. He was one of the most dominant guys I ever saw but never really worked on his game and was and is a megalomaniac
I truly hated the van gundys as analysts. their schtick was tiresome and I know JVG is popular around here but (a) never got it done even with super talented squads and (b) the schtick about no blood, no foul etc. c'mon you quit; you're a phony. he was better than his brother Stan though
martin wrote:I had never heard this before: Thibs wanted Knicks to draft Jalen Williams.This would have been the Ousmane Dieng, Jalen Williams, Jalen Duren draft where Knicks used assets to get space for Brunson.
49:15 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/live/BN_6oi71tJI...
Briggs loved that guy.
he has turned into quite the player.
you barely see Dieng mentioned though who was the guy OKC picked with our slot
DLeethal wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
If we somehow get Kidd that’s the precursor to Giannis
Kidd turned Giannis into a superstar but Bud got him the ring.
Philc1 wrote:Chandler wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Yeah Dallas is going to want a 1st.
I was referring to Cooper fLagg. Why wouldn't Kidd prefer to run with that guy, AD, Kyrie etc.
As I mentioned before I have to imagine they would not have fired Thibs without having already sorted out who the coach would be, what he would do with the roster, etc. How could they get into that depth with Kidd who is currently employed. I get it there could be some back room dealing, but can't imagine at this level with Kidd.
That said, I love the idea of him
Chandler wrote:DLeethal wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
If we somehow get Kidd that’s the precursor to Giannis
Kidd turned Giannis into a superstar but Bud got him the ring.
Giannis loves Kidd about as much as any player loves a former coach … this is pretty heavily documented
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/dallas-mavericks/mavs-news-giannis-antetokounmpos-1-word-praise-of-jason-kidd-will-hype-up-luka-doncic-dallas
DLeethal wrote:Chandler wrote:Philc1 wrote:LivingLegend wrote:2 names mentioned by an NBA Writer and Isola that I haven't seen yet -- both are ? marks in terms of being gettable.Jason Kidd ----- I think he's become an outstanding coach
Chris Paul ----- this was via Isola and it would be extremely interesting (even as a player coach)
I’ve always liked Kidd as a coach and he would probably be my first choice but he’s not available unless you want to send the mavericks draft picks.
I'd love him as a coach but can't see it happening with the #1 pick coming in etc
Maybe but the interview with Kidd and Nico after trading Luka was pretty crazy. Kidd looked like a hostage being forced to say he loved his captors. He clearly was blindsided by the trade and didn’t support it.
this is a good point. I forgot about that
What about Cooper though. You don't think Kidd wants to coach him with far less pressure than Knicks will create
DLeethal wrote:Nalod wrote:Understand the under achieving but the reasons for it are not clear.
Not beating top tier teams is not a reason unto itself. Why we did not is.
The list is pretty long man. Whether you choose to accept it is on you.
Its our speculations or interpretations. Im get that. Just wish to know details thats all.
I accept it. Not the first time this happens.
He'll be paid quite well for his service. Its not like the man did not work hard. Not looking for blame, looking for the circumstances that lead to the discourse that created a less than harmonious until.
So can someone who knows how start a poll on who it will be?
all three playoff series were crazy and suspenseful, and now this????
Chandler wrote:So can someone who knows how start a poll on who it will be?all three playoff series were crazy and suspenseful, and now this????
— Dan Hurley
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