Knicks · NBA Draft 2025, 6/25 & 6/26 8PM ESPN (page 4)

martin @ 6/25/2025 10:04 PM
They got Ayton and Clingan?

BigDaddyG @ 6/25/2025 10:06 PM
I won't lie. Yang showed out in pre-draft scrimmages. I thought the language barrier and current world politics would doom him into the second round.
Uptown @ 6/25/2025 10:06 PM
OKC remains a step above everyone else....Sorber will fit right in. Quick big 4/5 tweener....Can block shots and score in the paint....
BigDaddyG @ 6/25/2025 11:01 PM
I like Nique Clifford. I thought he would be a good fit for OKC. I'm sorry he has to go to Sac.
BigDaddyG @ 6/25/2025 11:04 PM
Jase to Orlando might seem cliche, but solid pick.
BigDaddyG @ 6/25/2025 11:07 PM
I love the idea of Brooklyn fielding a team of rookies, second year players and G-Leaguers with Cam waiving them off.
Uptown @ 6/25/2025 11:19 PM
Hate to give the Heat a compliment but Kasparas has a lot of potential....
martin @ 6/25/2025 11:20 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:I love the idea of Brooklyn fielding a team of rookies, second year players and G-Leaguers with Cam waiving them off.

Lol

Uptown @ 6/25/2025 11:23 PM
Wow....McNeely and Fleming still on the board
Uptown @ 6/25/2025 11:29 PM
Uptown wrote:Wow....McNeely and Fleming still on the board

Spoke too soon on McNeely....The suns grabbed him. Goof valuse for the Suns at 29

VDesai @ 6/26/2025 7:10 AM
Fun fact - Rasheer Fleming's high school coach was Rick Brunson

Still available in rd 2. Let the conspiracies begin

martin @ 6/26/2025 8:44 AM
VDesai @ 6/26/2025 9:15 AM
Man I think I would aggressively go after Fleming here. He is a younger version of the Boston version if Al Horford. A rare 3 and D 4/5 man. No midrange or creation game, but terrific spot up 3 pt shooting and steals, blocks to go with solid rebounding. A perfect replacement for Precious that can space the floor. Trade up with 2 or 3 seconds and grab him!
martin @ 6/26/2025 9:34 AM
VDesai wrote:Man I think I would aggressively go after Fleming here. He is a younger version of the Boston version if Al Horford. A rare 3 and D 4/5 man. No midrange or creation game, but terrific spot up 3 pt shooting and steals, blocks to go with solid rebounding. A perfect replacement for Precious that can space the floor. Trade up with 2 or 3 seconds and grab him!

The Knicks must trade up into the early second round for Rasheer Fleming, one of my favorite players in this class, he looks like a modern 3-and-D forward with legit size, length, and shooting. He’s 6’8.25”, 232 lbs with a massive 7’5.25” wingspan and 9’1” standing reach. What stands out is his versatility—he defends 2–5, rebounds at a high level, and hit over 39% from three on real volume. He’s fluid, explosive enough in space, and brings constant energy, but he’s not a creator and the handle is loose. He’s more of a play finisher than a playmaker.

He averaged 15.5 PPG, 8.6 RPG, and 2.9 stocks per game at Saint Joseph’s and shot 53% from the field and 74% from the line. His combine helped—top-5 wingspan, solid mobility, and a good shooting workout. He’s not super quick laterally and sometimes gets beat by faster wings, but the instincts and motor are real.

He’s a clone to Jaden McDaniels as a prospect with a more reliable jumper but less shake and fluidity off the bounce but damn near identical measurables. I thought he’d go somewhere at the end of the lottery and at latest end of the first, but he fell out of the first entirely somehow. He is a very high-floor rotational forward with upside if the offense rounds out and jumper remains consistent.

LivingLegend @ 6/26/2025 10:13 AM
martin wrote:

Any opinion on a Top 3 if Knicks were inclined to move up?

I haven’t watched any of these guys this year.

LivingLegend @ 6/26/2025 10:16 AM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man I think I would aggressively go after Fleming here. He is a younger version of the Boston version if Al Horford. A rare 3 and D 4/5 man. No midrange or creation game, but terrific spot up 3 pt shooting and steals, blocks to go with solid rebounding. A perfect replacement for Precious that can space the floor. Trade up with 2 or 3 seconds and grab him!

The Knicks must trade up into the early second round for Rasheer Fleming, one of my favorite players in this class, he looks like a modern 3-and-D forward with legit size, length, and shooting. He’s 6’8.25”, 232 lbs with a massive 7’5.25” wingspan and 9’1” standing reach. What stands out is his versatility—he defends 2–5, rebounds at a high level, and hit over 39% from three on real volume. He’s fluid, explosive enough in space, and brings constant energy, but he’s not a creator and the handle is loose. He’s more of a play finisher than a playmaker.

He averaged 15.5 PPG, 8.6 RPG, and 2.9 stocks per game at Saint Joseph’s and shot 53% from the field and 74% from the line. His combine helped—top-5 wingspan, solid mobility, and a good shooting workout. He’s not super quick laterally and sometimes gets beat by faster wings, but the instincts and motor are real.

He’s a clone to Jaden McDaniels as a prospect with a more reliable jumper but less shake and fluidity off the bounce but damn near identical measurables. I thought he’d go somewhere at the end of the lottery and at latest end of the first, but he fell out of the first entirely somehow. He is a very high-floor rotational forward with upside if the offense rounds out and jumper remains consistent.

I think I heard knock on this kid we’re very poor in game instincts / awareness — like a step late to react.

No idea if true but may have read on espn summary.

VDesai @ 6/26/2025 10:17 AM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man I think I would aggressively go after Fleming here. He is a younger version of the Boston version if Al Horford. A rare 3 and D 4/5 man. No midrange or creation game, but terrific spot up 3 pt shooting and steals, blocks to go with solid rebounding. A perfect replacement for Precious that can space the floor. Trade up with 2 or 3 seconds and grab him!

The Knicks must trade up into the early second round for Rasheer Fleming, one of my favorite players in this class, he looks like a modern 3-and-D forward with legit size, length, and shooting. He’s 6’8.25”, 232 lbs with a massive 7’5.25” wingspan and 9’1” standing reach. What stands out is his versatility—he defends 2–5, rebounds at a high level, and hit over 39% from three on real volume. He’s fluid, explosive enough in space, and brings constant energy, but he’s not a creator and the handle is loose. He’s more of a play finisher than a playmaker.

He averaged 15.5 PPG, 8.6 RPG, and 2.9 stocks per game at Saint Joseph’s and shot 53% from the field and 74% from the line. His combine helped—top-5 wingspan, solid mobility, and a good shooting workout. He’s not super quick laterally and sometimes gets beat by faster wings, but the instincts and motor are real.

He’s a clone to Jaden McDaniels as a prospect with a more reliable jumper but less shake and fluidity off the bounce but damn near identical measurables. I thought he’d go somewhere at the end of the lottery and at latest end of the first, but he fell out of the first entirely somehow. He is a very high-floor rotational forward with upside if the offense rounds out and jumper remains consistent.

The problem is the first 2 picks of the 2nd round are Minnesota and Boston, the teams who have employed the 2 most similar players in the NBA to Fleming (Reed and Horford). I think one of those teams is gonna grab him.

LivingLegend @ 6/26/2025 10:21 AM
Per ESPN on Fleming weaknesses.

Feel for game is major ? - does not process game well on either end of floor. Struggles to make basic passes and is highly mistake prone off the ball on D.

So if that synopsis is accurate I don’t want.

We need smart players who can act quickly and make great decisions with the ball.

One of our great weaknesses is simple handling/passing of the ball.

Knixkik @ 6/26/2025 10:26 AM
martin wrote:
VDesai wrote:Man I think I would aggressively go after Fleming here. He is a younger version of the Boston version if Al Horford. A rare 3 and D 4/5 man. No midrange or creation game, but terrific spot up 3 pt shooting and steals, blocks to go with solid rebounding. A perfect replacement for Precious that can space the floor. Trade up with 2 or 3 seconds and grab him!

The Knicks must trade up into the early second round for Rasheer Fleming, one of my favorite players in this class, he looks like a modern 3-and-D forward with legit size, length, and shooting. He’s 6’8.25”, 232 lbs with a massive 7’5.25” wingspan and 9’1” standing reach. What stands out is his versatility—he defends 2–5, rebounds at a high level, and hit over 39% from three on real volume. He’s fluid, explosive enough in space, and brings constant energy, but he’s not a creator and the handle is loose. He’s more of a play finisher than a playmaker.

He averaged 15.5 PPG, 8.6 RPG, and 2.9 stocks per game at Saint Joseph’s and shot 53% from the field and 74% from the line. His combine helped—top-5 wingspan, solid mobility, and a good shooting workout. He’s not super quick laterally and sometimes gets beat by faster wings, but the instincts and motor are real.

He’s a clone to Jaden McDaniels as a prospect with a more reliable jumper but less shake and fluidity off the bounce but damn near identical measurables. I thought he’d go somewhere at the end of the lottery and at latest end of the first, but he fell out of the first entirely somehow. He is a very high-floor rotational forward with upside if the offense rounds out and jumper remains consistent.

Fleming would be amazing. Knicks have a good history trading with Charlotte so one of their picks makes sense. Like last year with Kolek, there’s really opportunity to get a good player at the top of the second round and pay him the second round exception, which is a cheap and valuable way to fill out the roster.

VDesai @ 6/26/2025 10:27 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Per ESPN on Fleming weaknesses.

Feel for game is major ? - does not process game well on either end of floor. Struggles to make basic passes and is highly mistake prone off the ball on D.

So if that synopsis is accurate I don’t want.

We need smart players who can act quickly and make great decisions with the ball.

One of our great weaknesses is simple handling/passing of the ball.

21 years old. Can teach positioning, but can't teach 7'5 wingpsan and 40% 3 pt shooting from a 6'9" 240 guy. Naturally gets a lot of steals and blocks even without the elite instincts. If he didn't have some flaws he'd be in the lottery.

Knixkik @ 6/26/2025 10:28 AM
LivingLegend wrote:Per ESPN on Fleming weaknesses.

Feel for game is major ? - does not process game well on either end of floor. Struggles to make basic passes and is highly mistake prone off the ball on D.

So if that synopsis is accurate I don’t want.

We need smart players who can act quickly and make great decisions with the ball.

One of our great weaknesses is simple handling/passing of the ball.

These are the reasons he’s not a first round pick. You will find major red flags with any player outside of the top guys. Fleming is a good risk because he has the tools to be a real 2-way contributor if he can develop.

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