Off Topic · Now That Everything Is Free In NYC, Should I Move Back? (page 7)

Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Do people in our country think that having a better maternity plan for new parents means communism? That having an upgraded subway system means it’s communism?

Feeding kids at school is communism? Taking out the profit in health care is communism?

All of those things are bad for our country and anyone who thinks having a better country is communism?

Fuck that

These clowns think social security is communism and want to get rid of it.

are you guys really debating whether Mandami is communist? "warmth of collectivism." It's not like he's hiding this.

I think the issue is the ideas all sound great on paper, and have for a long time, in a lot of places. Yet no one seems to be able to make it work even when their lives depended on it. And certainly not in any sustainable way. If you have a model socialist or communist country I'm all ears. Would be interested in what country communist or otherwise you'd like to emulate.

Compare Poland and Venezuela (which has largest proven oil reserves on the planet). One turned primarily capitalist at the same time the other flipped in the other direction. the change in their respective fortunes couldn't be more stark.

Also kind of ironic that people from essentially every socialist or communist country would risk their lives to come here, yet not vice versa? Must all be a bunch of dummies, I guess.

I don't want NY to fail to prove I'm right. But I am a deep skeptic that this will work and be sustainable.

All of Western Europe is “socialist” especially by your standards. They have universal healthcare and public universities that charge little to no tuition. No one in France, the UK, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries would ever trade their socialized government run healthcare system for the absolute wasteful sh tshow we have here with private health insurance oh and their kids don’t graduate college with $100-200k in student loan debt either.

Oh yeah and your example of Poland, I was just there a couple years ago with the Army, they have universal healthcare for their citizens and public universities and a booming economy.

BlueKnickers wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Do people in our country think that having a better maternity plan for new parents means communism? That having an upgraded subway system means it’s communism?

Feeding kids at school is communism? Taking out the profit in health care is communism?

All of those things are bad for our country and anyone who thinks having a better country is communism?

Fuck that

These clowns think social security is communism and want to get rid of it.

are you guys really debating whether Mandami is communist? "warmth of collectivism." It's not like he's hiding this.

I think the issue is the ideas all sound great on paper, and have for a long time, in a lot of places. Yet no one seems to be able to make it work even when their lives depended on it. And certainly not in any sustainable way. If you have a model socialist or communist country I'm all ears. Would be interested in what country communist or otherwise you'd like to emulate.

Compare Poland and Venezuela (which has largest proven oil reserves on the planet). One turned primarily capitalist at the same time the other flipped in the other direction. the change in their respective fortunes couldn't be more stark.

Also kind of ironic that people from essentially every socialist or communist country would risk their lives to come here, yet not vice versa? Must all be a bunch of dummies, I guess.

I don't want NY to fail to prove I'm right. But I am a deep skeptic that this will work and be sustainable.

You speak of socialism as if it is the same thing as communism. They are not remotely similar.

You called the mayor of NY a communist. Yeah, he's Stalin and Mao redux.

Then you effectively compare his agenda to addressing housing costs or providing daycare for single parents as equivalent to a Venezuelan dictator? WTF?

It's fine to be skeptical when someone actually tries to use government to assist people for a change because it is a big hill to climb, but to cast aspersions with commie slurs is lazy and inaccurate.

You do realize Marx and Engels identified themselves as socialist? That's the term they used. and many/most communist regimes identify themselves as socialist

the language of "collectivism" (i.e., the term Mamdami uses) is itself part of that Marxist dialectic.

I'm all ears for your explanation about how "[t]hey are not remotely similar"

Also NYC has been run by democrats for decades. Were they not trying "to use government to assist people"? Of course they were. And I'm not blaming anyone for their intentions to try and help people. That's one of the key roles of government. The issue is the method. I haven't seen any evidence where the socialist method has helped in a sustainable way, and seen the evidence to the contrary.

If there's a socialist approach that has helped people please note it or at least admit you don't know of any.

Philc1 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Do people in our country think that having a better maternity plan for new parents means communism? That having an upgraded subway system means it’s communism?

Feeding kids at school is communism? Taking out the profit in health care is communism?

All of those things are bad for our country and anyone who thinks having a better country is communism?

Fuck that

These clowns think social security is communism and want to get rid of it.

are you guys really debating whether Mandami is communist? "warmth of collectivism." It's not like he's hiding this.

I think the issue is the ideas all sound great on paper, and have for a long time, in a lot of places. Yet no one seems to be able to make it work even when their lives depended on it. And certainly not in any sustainable way. If you have a model socialist or communist country I'm all ears. Would be interested in what country communist or otherwise you'd like to emulate.

Compare Poland and Venezuela (which has largest proven oil reserves on the planet). One turned primarily capitalist at the same time the other flipped in the other direction. the change in their respective fortunes couldn't be more stark.

Also kind of ironic that people from essentially every socialist or communist country would risk their lives to come here, yet not vice versa? Must all be a bunch of dummies, I guess.

I don't want NY to fail to prove I'm right. But I am a deep skeptic that this will work and be sustainable.

All of Western Europe is “socialist” especially by your standards. They have universal healthcare and public universities that charge little to no tuition. No one in France, the UK, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries would ever trade their socialized government run healthcare system for the absolute wasteful sh tshow we have here with private health insurance oh and their kids don’t graduate college with $100-200k in student loan debt either.

Oh yeah and your example of Poland, I was just there a couple years ago with the Army, they have universal healthcare for their citizens and public universities and a booming economy.

regarding Poland, I think you unwittingly support my point. Poland turned to capitalism and their economy is booming. Their per capita GDP is the same or slightly higher than that of Japan now!! Venezuela went in the other direction.

America or NYC won't change one bit in terms of what type of country or city it is if they make changes that favor policy that help people.

America did not suddenly become a socialist or communist country because we introduced Social Security or free meals at schools for kids in need.

What is the hangup besides screaming about the label nonesense?

martin wrote:Don't really understand why the labels are important and really matter.

America or NYC won't change one bit in terms of what type of country or city it is if they make changes that favor policy that help people.

America did not suddenly become a socialist or communist country because we introduced Social Security or free meals at schools for kids in need.

What is the hangup besides screaming about the label nonesense?

The hang up is because their views are operated in bad faith to begin with. GOP has had the Presidency, House, Senate & Supreme Court now a full year. They can't point to policy from within these "values and ideals" which have benefited the American public as of yet on any real scale. So the finesse is to ignore actually relying on the results of theses "values and ideals" being implemented while holding full power. Divert the attention, thus going on the offensive to attack someone like Mamdani rather than being accountable based on results.

They jumped on the prices and groceries are to high angle when it was convenient to attack Biden/Dems. Which was pretty much a result of unregulated capitalism. But then cry socialism at any attempt to regulate capitalism. Red states have relied heavily on the "socialism" of the Blue states tax revenue while still minimizing the majority of their social programs & safety nets. Corporations and top 1% absolutely love socialism for the rich. Where they get government bailouts, tax breaks, subsidies, etc etc.

newyorknewyork wrote:

martin wrote:Don't really understand why the labels are important and really matter.

America or NYC won't change one bit in terms of what type of country or city it is if they make changes that favor policy that help people.

America did not suddenly become a socialist or communist country because we introduced Social Security or free meals at schools for kids in need.

What is the hangup besides screaming about the label nonesense?

The hang up is because their views are operated in bad faith to begin with. GOP has had the Presidency, House, Senate & Supreme Court now a full year. They can't point to policy from within these "values and ideals" which have benefited the American public as of yet on any real scale. So the finesse is to ignore actually relying on the results of theses "values and ideals" being implemented while holding full power. Divert the attention, thus going on the offensive to attack someone like Mamdani rather than being accountable based on results.

They jumped on the prices and groceries are to high angle when it was convenient to attack Biden/Dems. Which was pretty much a result of unregulated capitalism. But then cry socialism at any attempt to regulate capitalism. Red states have relied heavily on the "socialism" of the Blue states tax revenue while still minimizing the majority of their social programs & safety nets. Corporations and top 1% absolutely love socialism for the rich. Where they get government bailouts, tax breaks, subsidies, etc etc.

Right. Unregulated capitalism means more toxins in our water supply. Or children working.

Mitigating those things are not socialism or communism.

Nor is trying to bring down the cost of groceries. Unless you are on the business end receiving revenue within the food supply chain.

Or being a first world wealthy city that can prioritize these things?

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Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Do people in our country think that having a better maternity plan for new parents means communism? That having an upgraded subway system means it’s communism?

Feeding kids at school is communism? Taking out the profit in health care is communism?

All of those things are bad for our country and anyone who thinks having a better country is communism?

Fuck that

These clowns think social security is communism and want to get rid of it.

are you guys really debating whether Mandami is communist? "warmth of collectivism." It's not like he's hiding this.

I think the issue is the ideas all sound great on paper, and have for a long time, in a lot of places. Yet no one seems to be able to make it work even when their lives depended on it. And certainly not in any sustainable way. If you have a model socialist or communist country I'm all ears. Would be interested in what country communist or otherwise you'd like to emulate.

Compare Poland and Venezuela (which has largest proven oil reserves on the planet). One turned primarily capitalist at the same time the other flipped in the other direction. the change in their respective fortunes couldn't be more stark.

Also kind of ironic that people from essentially every socialist or communist country would risk their lives to come here, yet not vice versa? Must all be a bunch of dummies, I guess.

I don't want NY to fail to prove I'm right. But I am a deep skeptic that this will work and be sustainable.

All of Western Europe is “socialist” especially by your standards. They have universal healthcare and public universities that charge little to no tuition. No one in France, the UK, Germany, or the Scandinavian countries would ever trade their socialized government run healthcare system for the absolute wasteful sh tshow we have here with private health insurance oh and their kids don’t graduate college with $100-200k in student loan debt either.

Oh yeah and your example of Poland, I was just there a couple years ago with the Army, they have universal healthcare for their citizens and public universities and a booming economy.

regarding Poland, I think you unwittingly support my point. Poland turned to capitalism and their economy is booming. Their per capita GDP is the same or slightly higher than that of Japan now!! Venezuela went in the other direction.

Yet Poland is “socialist” by your standards they have universal healthcare for its citizens and public universities.

Again you got nothing but manufactured hysteria.

martin wrote:Is this communism or socialism?

Or being a first world wealthy city that can prioritize these things?

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Wait but the people who know everything said it would cost a thousand bajillion dollars.

martin wrote:Don't really understand why the labels are important and really matter.

America or NYC won't change one bit in terms of what type of country or city it is if they make changes that favor policy that help people.

America did not suddenly become a socialist or communist country because we introduced Social Security or free meals at schools for kids in need.

What is the hangup besides screaming about the label nonesense?

These are the same people who called Clinton and Obama socialists. Credibility is zero point nothing.

martin wrote:Is this communism or socialism?

Or being a first world wealthy city that can prioritize these things?

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The gov’t in charge of more child care centers, what could possibly go wrong

Chandler wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Chandler wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

martin wrote:Do people in our country think that having a better maternity plan for new parents means communism? That having an upgraded subway system means it’s communism?

Feeding kids at school is communism? Taking out the profit in health care is communism?

All of those things are bad for our country and anyone who thinks having a better country is communism?

Fuck that

These clowns think social security is communism and want to get rid of it.

are you guys really debating whether Mandami is communist? "warmth of collectivism." It's not like he's hiding this.

I think the issue is the ideas all sound great on paper, and have for a long time, in a lot of places. Yet no one seems to be able to make it work even when their lives depended on it. And certainly not in any sustainable way. If you have a model socialist or communist country I'm all ears. Would be interested in what country communist or otherwise you'd like to emulate.

Compare Poland and Venezuela (which has largest proven oil reserves on the planet). One turned primarily capitalist at the same time the other flipped in the other direction. the change in their respective fortunes couldn't be more stark.

Also kind of ironic that people from essentially every socialist or communist country would risk their lives to come here, yet not vice versa? Must all be a bunch of dummies, I guess.

I don't want NY to fail to prove I'm right. But I am a deep skeptic that this will work and be sustainable.

You speak of socialism as if it is the same thing as communism. They are not remotely similar.

You called the mayor of NY a communist. Yeah, he's Stalin and Mao redux.

Then you effectively compare his agenda to addressing housing costs or providing daycare for single parents as equivalent to a Venezuelan dictator? WTF?

It's fine to be skeptical when someone actually tries to use government to assist people for a change because it is a big hill to climb, but to cast aspersions with commie slurs is lazy and inaccurate.

You do realize Marx and Engels identified themselves as socialist? That's the term they used. and many/most communist regimes identify themselves as socialist

the language of "collectivism" (i.e., the term Mamdami uses) is itself part of that Marxist dialectic.

I'm all ears for your explanation about how "[t]hey are not remotely similar"

Also NYC has been run by democrats for decades. Were they not trying "to use government to assist people"? Of course they were. And I'm not blaming anyone for their intentions to try and help people. That's one of the key roles of government. The issue is the method. I haven't seen any evidence where the socialist method has helped in a sustainable way, and seen the evidence to the contrary.

If there's a socialist approach that has helped people please note it or at least admit you don't know of any.

Socialized medicine and education is socialism. Democracy and socialism go together naturally.

The USA is a primitive and increasingly backwards country where a majority of the citizens regard the word socialism as if it is a precursor to totalitarian communist regimes.

Thanks for the Marx and Engels 101 though.

In the past 48 hours you've seen the future of American totalitarianism unfold and some of you want to take weird swipes at Mamdani as a commie rather than facing the national and international crisis we're living in.

martin wrote:Is this communism or socialism?

Or being a first world wealthy city that can prioritize these things?

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Shocking development!

Mothers going to work while their children are looked after will surely turn NYC into a gulag in the near future.

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martin wrote:Is this communism or socialism?

Or being a first world wealthy city that can prioritize these things?

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The gov’t in charge of more child care centers, what could possibly go wrong

Much much much less than the Catholic Churches out there?

Dude, your pessimism in the face of making this world a better place needs help.

There are a lot of bad things going on out there. Our president and his political party are covering up blatant pedophilia within the Epstein world right out in the open. Invading countries. Bombing random shit. Not protecting democracy around the world. Killing US citizens on camera and then lying about it. And Trump keeps licking the taint of Putin every chance he gets and when he is told.

Child care is a blessing for tons of families.

Let us know which you support, cause it’s hard to tell.

Strip out Mandami's islamic flavor and just consider the intent of his message. I am not comfortable with his pandering to his core constiuents while the chief executive of a city with the largest jewish population in the world. He has to be careful here in my opinion as centuries old rhetoric gets promoted by hateful ignorance.

Lets be clear, transportation, childcare and affordable housing subsidized by taxpayers is a form of wealth redistribution and socialist in ecnomoic theory. National socialist parties, like Nazi germany is not this. Bernie Sanders, Elizabith Warren, and AOC are not dangerous radicals promoting divide. The Trumpian call of "radical liberals" is pretty fucking stupid and shocking that at the highest level the executive branch has been dumbed down as it has. Because we the people have voted him in it became legitimatized by the masses. What your seeing from them is a demonstration of a totalitarian system that is not adhereing to principals of the constitution. They can move faster than the judicial system.

Dehumanizing makes us numb. What ICE has done the last two days and Vances comments are very dangerous. Much of makes us great is slipping away. I fear bad things have to happen even worse before we get a grip. Remember Kent State? It shocked us. This administration uses fear to justify its actions.

Nalod wrote:Social programs are hybrids to smooth out the deficiencies of capitalism. The ignorance of the general population does not understand the intricacies and instead parrot opions masquerading as news to furhter promote the agenda.

Strip out Mandami's islamic flavor and just consider the intent of his message. I am not comfortable with his pandering to his core constiuents while the chief executive of a city with the largest jewish population in the world. He has to be careful here in my opinion as centuries old rhetoric gets promoted by hateful ignorance.

Lets be clear, transportation, childcare and affordable housing subsidized by taxpayers is a form of wealth redistribution and socialist in ecnomoic theory. National socialist parties, like Nazi germany is not this. Bernie Sanders, Elizabith Warren, and AOC are not dangerous radicals promoting divide. The Trumpian call of "radical liberals" is pretty fucking stupid and shocking that at the highest level the executive branch has been dumbed down as it has. Because we the people have voted him in it became legitimatized by the masses. What your seeing from them is a demonstration of a totalitarian system that is not adhereing to principals of the constitution. They can move faster than the judicial system.

Dehumanizing makes us numb. What ICE has done the last two days and Vances comments are very dangerous. Much of makes us great is slipping away. I fear bad things have to happen even worse before we get a grip. Remember Kent State? It shocked us. This administration uses fear to justify its actions.

Good post. Agree on all counts.

We've past the danger zone and are already in the abyss. The only question is will it be a softer or a harder landing.

We may not make it to November. People largely seem oblivious to the obvious which is this regime is prepping the military to be its personal militia and with that comes state sanctioned terrorism at home and abroad. Nobody is safe, not even old white men with red baseball caps.

We could already be days away from state vs. federal warfare if Minnesota's governor commands his state's national guard to escort ICE across state borders. Yes, I know the National Guard can be federalized, but the recent SCOTUS ruling will make the White House flinch before retesting those boundaries. They'll probably retreat and plot other assaults elsewhere for now.

BlueKnickers wrote:

Nalod wrote:Social programs are hybrids to smooth out the deficiencies of capitalism. The ignorance of the general population does not understand the intricacies and instead parrot opions masquerading as news to furhter promote the agenda.

Strip out Mandami's islamic flavor and just consider the intent of his message. I am not comfortable with his pandering to his core constiuents while the chief executive of a city with the largest jewish population in the world. He has to be careful here in my opinion as centuries old rhetoric gets promoted by hateful ignorance.

Lets be clear, transportation, childcare and affordable housing subsidized by taxpayers is a form of wealth redistribution and socialist in ecnomoic theory. National socialist parties, like Nazi germany is not this. Bernie Sanders, Elizabith Warren, and AOC are not dangerous radicals promoting divide. The Trumpian call of "radical liberals" is pretty fucking stupid and shocking that at the highest level the executive branch has been dumbed down as it has. Because we the people have voted him in it became legitimatized by the masses. What your seeing from them is a demonstration of a totalitarian system that is not adhereing to principals of the constitution. They can move faster than the judicial system.

Dehumanizing makes us numb. What ICE has done the last two days and Vances comments are very dangerous. Much of makes us great is slipping away. I fear bad things have to happen even worse before we get a grip. Remember Kent State? It shocked us. This administration uses fear to justify its actions.

Good post. Agree on all counts.

We've past the danger zone and are already in the abyss. The only question is will it be a softer or a harder landing.

We may not make it to November. People largely seem oblivious to the obvious which is this regime is prepping the military to be its personal militia and with that comes state sanctioned terrorism at home and abroad. Nobody is safe, not even old white men with red baseball caps.

We could already be days away from state vs. federal warfare if Minnesota's governor commands his state's national guard to escort ICE across state borders.

The Current levels of hypocricy are staggering. I do respect the velocity of this administration attempts but they are rushed and incomplete which leads to a level of incompetence that is dangerous. Fox News dehumanizing that womens murder was awful. Trump is an incompetent sociopath but Vance is more dangerous given he an opportunist and aware of his words. Calling that women out with not facts was very dangerous. He is using his position to cover up gross incompetence of a system that is over reaching.

Nalod wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Nalod wrote:Social programs are hybrids to smooth out the deficiencies of capitalism. The ignorance of the general population does not understand the intricacies and instead parrot opions masquerading as news to furhter promote the agenda.

Strip out Mandami's islamic flavor and just consider the intent of his message. I am not comfortable with his pandering to his core constiuents while the chief executive of a city with the largest jewish population in the world. He has to be careful here in my opinion as centuries old rhetoric gets promoted by hateful ignorance.

Lets be clear, transportation, childcare and affordable housing subsidized by taxpayers is a form of wealth redistribution and socialist in ecnomoic theory. National socialist parties, like Nazi germany is not this. Bernie Sanders, Elizabith Warren, and AOC are not dangerous radicals promoting divide. The Trumpian call of "radical liberals" is pretty fucking stupid and shocking that at the highest level the executive branch has been dumbed down as it has. Because we the people have voted him in it became legitimatized by the masses. What your seeing from them is a demonstration of a totalitarian system that is not adhereing to principals of the constitution. They can move faster than the judicial system.

Dehumanizing makes us numb. What ICE has done the last two days and Vances comments are very dangerous. Much of makes us great is slipping away. I fear bad things have to happen even worse before we get a grip. Remember Kent State? It shocked us. This administration uses fear to justify its actions.

Good post. Agree on all counts.

We've past the danger zone and are already in the abyss. The only question is will it be a softer or a harder landing.

We may not make it to November. People largely seem oblivious to the obvious which is this regime is prepping the military to be its personal militia and with that comes state sanctioned terrorism at home and abroad. Nobody is safe, not even old white men with red baseball caps.

We could already be days away from state vs. federal warfare if Minnesota's governor commands his state's national guard to escort ICE across state borders.

The Current levels of hypocricy are staggering. I do respect the velocity of this administration attempts but they are rushed and incomplete which leads to a level of incompetence that is dangerous. Fox News dehumanizing that womens murder was awful. Trump is an incompetent sociopath but Vance is more dangerous given he an opportunist and aware of his words. Calling that women out with not facts was very dangerous. He is using his position to cover up gross incompetence of a system that is over reaching.

Vance is a rudderless opportunist and is a sociopath in his own right.

One thing both he and Trump know is that neither one can win an election now. And they have no intention of surrendering control.

They are preparing to cancel the elections with a manufactured crisis. They will invoke martial law. This is their plan.

Anyone who doesn't see this is their only option and their obvious intention is an idiot.

They are not competent enough to rig every state's vote count to keep control of congress, so force is their only recourse.

The only thing that will prevent that from happening is a loss of nerve on their part, but when you have sociopathic zealots like Miller and Vought steering the ship that is unlikely to happen.

The alternative is losing Congress means Trump gets impeached by both houses. That may leave Vance, but without legislative powers. They may still try to go the martial law route after losing an election for control of congress, but the likelihood of maintaining control will be lower than if martial law is imposed prior to election rather than losing it first then going brute force.

Therefore, I expect the worst in 2026.

I think the next season of The Boys will be completely bonkers.

BlueKnickers wrote:

Nalod wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:

Nalod wrote:Social programs are hybrids to smooth out the deficiencies of capitalism. The ignorance of the general population does not understand the intricacies and instead parrot opions masquerading as news to furhter promote the agenda.

Strip out Mandami's islamic flavor and just consider the intent of his message. I am not comfortable with his pandering to his core constiuents while the chief executive of a city with the largest jewish population in the world. He has to be careful here in my opinion as centuries old rhetoric gets promoted by hateful ignorance.

Lets be clear, transportation, childcare and affordable housing subsidized by taxpayers is a form of wealth redistribution and socialist in ecnomoic theory. National socialist parties, like Nazi germany is not this. Bernie Sanders, Elizabith Warren, and AOC are not dangerous radicals promoting divide. The Trumpian call of "radical liberals" is pretty fucking stupid and shocking that at the highest level the executive branch has been dumbed down as it has. Because we the people have voted him in it became legitimatized by the masses. What your seeing from them is a demonstration of a totalitarian system that is not adhereing to principals of the constitution. They can move faster than the judicial system.

Dehumanizing makes us numb. What ICE has done the last two days and Vances comments are very dangerous. Much of makes us great is slipping away. I fear bad things have to happen even worse before we get a grip. Remember Kent State? It shocked us. This administration uses fear to justify its actions.

Good post. Agree on all counts.

We've past the danger zone and are already in the abyss. The only question is will it be a softer or a harder landing.

We may not make it to November. People largely seem oblivious to the obvious which is this regime is prepping the military to be its personal militia and with that comes state sanctioned terrorism at home and abroad. Nobody is safe, not even old white men with red baseball caps.

We could already be days away from state vs. federal warfare if Minnesota's governor commands his state's national guard to escort ICE across state borders.

The Current levels of hypocricy are staggering. I do respect the velocity of this administration attempts but they are rushed and incomplete which leads to a level of incompetence that is dangerous. Fox News dehumanizing that womens murder was awful. Trump is an incompetent sociopath but Vance is more dangerous given he an opportunist and aware of his words. Calling that women out with not facts was very dangerous. He is using his position to cover up gross incompetence of a system that is over reaching.

Vance is a rudderless opportunist and is a sociopath in his own right.

One thing both he and Trump know is that neither one can win an election now. And they have no intention of surrendering control.

They are preparing to cancel the elections with a manufactured crisis. They will invoke martial law. This is their plan.

Anyone who doesn't see this is their only option and their obvious intention is an idiot.

They are not competent enough to rig every state's vote count to keep control of congress, so force is their only recourse.

The only thing that will prevent that from happening is a loss of nerve on their part, but when you have sociopathic zealots like Miller and Vought steering the ship that is unlikely to happen.

The alternative is losing Congress means Trump gets impeached by both houses. That may leave Vance, but without legislative powers. They may still try to go the martial law route after losing an election for control of congress, but the likelihood of maintaining control will be lower than if martial law is imposed prior to election rather than losing it first then going brute force.

Therefore, I expect the worst in 2026.

I think the next season of The Boys will be completely bonkers.

I feel like you are both way ahead of the general curve out there and also right, unfortunately.

Trump and Vance will pull and test every lever they can. They are doing it already. Personalized police force via ICE that are straight up terrorizing any city they want and killing and arresting and jailing US Citizens for zero reason. Increasing military control via what we are seeing with the bombings and Venezuela. Monetary control via the budget process or legit just stealing/taking money from government agencies by shuttering them or having complete control over them. Judaical control over Supreme Court and certain Federal judicial members, see Amy Cannon and how she handled a person blatantly stealing classified materials and that case going nowhere. The President openly talks about invading a NATO country and ally. The list goes on.

What's up everyone, how you feeling about this? 2026 and beyond is going to get wet and wild well beyond the Pandemic stupidity.

Masked secret police force is marching around cities arresting and jailing and killing citizens who do no wrong but not a peep about THAT being communist?

Rookie wrote:LOL NYC you are fooked.

This seems like a common tactic on the right.
Scare everyone by claiming one knows the future, promise everything to everyone, when proven wrong say it’s all a conspiracy full of lies.

Funny thing is I own a business in NYC and Tampa.
The ones strongest about the right, including the ones opposing socialist policies are usually the first ones to refuse a normal paying job, first ones in line for unemployment, Medicaid and free food.

In my opinion, most politicians are scumbags and only in it for power and money. It just so happens the right has voted in one of the best politicians in history.
Qatar hated until they give me a plane and business deals in their country.
Saudis, part of 911 until they let me build for free in their country.
Give me all your money to fight the steal, and I’ll just keep it.
Help out my buddy, for a handsome fee, to take over the horrible Chinese tik tok killing our country.
Help my buddies in the oil biz by taking over Venezuelan oil, for a fee. Oh and take a few million barrels for my control. This seems like the best socialist implementation in history.
But if poor people want a piece, throw rocks and call them
Socialists?

At the end of the day, people have to educate themselves on how the rich and powerful obtain and maintain power and wealth. That’s by convincing everyone that they are doing something for their benefit. Then once they have your vote or support they only do what what benefits them the most. Even if it means killing hundreds of thousands of people, taking all their money or enslaving innocent people. In today’s modern society with current technology, this is extremely easy to do. People have an attention span for a killing of about a week. They can be convinced of anything with one post that goes viral. Whether true or not. Be aware of the machine. One that is real good at manipulation. Go out and play some ball and realize everyone is just like you. Trying to have some fun in a world surrounded by fucked up things and people.