25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pick
Not bad
Yup I love how Kolek, Diawara and now McCullar have all shown flashes. That’s such a big development for this team.
The system that we have with Brown enhances players. Everyone and their mother is developing. Deuce, Bridges,Kolek, Diawara, McCullar. Brunson is having a career year
Diawara has potential. I look forward to seeing his development. McCullar looks like a young Josh Hart. I see why the Knicks like him. Kolek is definitely the backup PG of the future. Duece has turned into out best 3pt shooter. Even though we traded a lot of our picks, we still have a lot of promising players.
Trade Gershon for Kevin Love. Love is another vet who can show the young players how to play winning basketball and stay in the league forever playing the right way. Gershon seems like a good person but he isn't a good fit. Utah may take him so they have a vet to tinker with and maybe flip next off season, and get a second rounder in return. Love doesn't likely remain as is likely a buy out candidate. So Utah gets something out of it now and maybe the future and we get an experienced playoff tested vet to mentor the younger players
Came into this season thinking Huk was part of the rotation and Dadiet would make a leap.
At least I was wrong about everything and not just those two.
The future is bright
MaTT4281 wrote:Came into this season thinking Huk was part of the rotation and Dadiet would make a leap. At least I was wrong about everything and not just those two.
Same
martin wrote:25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pickNot bad
Is that Wash 2nd round pick the first rounder conveying into 2nds? Or did we own their first & 2nd?
If the Knicks don't make any trades and decide to keep it all together. Like resigning Mitch. The rotation for the bench could shape up to be Kolek, Deuce, McCullar, Diawara, Mitch for next season.
That 2026 first could be used for comp at the PF/C spot.
newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pickNot bad
Is that Wash 2nd round pick the first rounder conveying into 2nds? Or did we own their first & 2nd?
Second round picks for 2026 and 2027. Which are good value.
All our young talent went from being liabilities under Thibs to big assets under Brown.
This is the way forward with the new 2nd Apron limitations.
Knicks specifically quoted player development in new CBA era as a reason for moving on from Thibs and they were spot on!
We are in such a good place because Knicks mgmt saw through the overplaying starters routine and actually understand how basketball works both on the court and managing a roster.
We have two weak links at the moment taking a roster spot, but that will be handled as well.
Great time to be a Knicks fan!!!
The kids look good … if it wasn’t for injury McCullar would have been a first round pick … like Kolek this guy was a stud in college … now a days knee injuries usually aren’t a big deals. I’m surprised that kids with NBA first round talent still slide to the second round .
fitzfarm wrote:The kids look good … if it wasn’t for injury McCullar would have been a first round pick … like Kolek this guy was a stud in college … now a days knee injuries usually aren’t a big deals. I’m surprised that kids with NBA first round talent still slide to the second round .
It was the combination of him being 23 years old and his injury.
Knixkik wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pickNot bad
Is that Wash 2nd round pick the first rounder conveying into 2nds? Or did we own their first & 2nd?
Second round picks for 2026 and 2027. Which are good value.
So holy crap I didn’t realize Knicks have both of WAS second round picks in 26 and 27.
This is the first year where the second round is on the next day. I feel like the Knicks are a FO type that’ll really leverage that opportunity
martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pickNot bad
Is that Wash 2nd round pick the first rounder conveying into 2nds? Or did we own their first & 2nd?
Second round picks for 2026 and 2027. Which are good value.
So holy crap I didn’t realize Knicks have both of WAS second round picks in 26 and 27.
This is the first year where the second round is on the next day. I feel like the Knicks are a FO type that’ll really leverage that opportunity
So Knicks would have pick 25-30 and say 31-35 to package in a move up to target a player.
newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:Knixkik wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:martin wrote:25 Deuce
24 Kolek
24 McCullar
23 Hukporti
20 Mo Money Diawara
20 Dadiet
2026 first round pick
2026 WAS second round pickNot bad
Is that Wash 2nd round pick the first rounder conveying into 2nds? Or did we own their first & 2nd?
Second round picks for 2026 and 2027. Which are good value.
So holy crap I didn’t realize Knicks have both of WAS second round picks in 26 and 27.
This is the first year where the second round is on the next day. I feel like the Knicks are a FO type that’ll really leverage that opportunity
So Knicks would have pick 25-30 and say 31-35 to package in a move up to target a player.
Don't look now, but Washington on a 2 game win streak and 5 games out of the 9th pick in the first round! 
nyvector16 wrote:All our young talent went from being liabilities under Thibs to big assets under Brown.
This is the way forward with the new 2nd Apron limitations.
Knicks specifically quoted player development in new CBA era as a reason for moving on from Thibs and they were spot on!We are in such a good place because Knicks mgmt saw through the overplaying starters routine and actually understand how basketball works both on the court and managing a roster.
We have two weak links at the moment taking a roster spot, but that will be handled as well.
Great time to be a Knicks fan!!!
That's really the key point: management saw the need to replace Thibs. I hold this front office's management abilities in way higher esteem than I do Thibs coaching abilities. And good management decided it was time to upgrade the coach.
When we drafted Kolek, we set a new NBA record for the highest guaranteed multi-year contract ever awarded to a 2nd round player coming out of the draft. Another team eclipsed that record right afterwards, but how often do you see a FO going all in on a 2nd rounder from the get go like that?
That kind of commitment was not carried through by Thibs. Kolek needed to upgrade his defense of course, but seeing how well he has done that it is not like he couldn't have been coached up during the previous season too and he would only suddenly turn into a viable defender a couple weeks ago. IMO, Brown pushed Kolek in ways Thibs did not do.
Thibs was one of those coaches who would go months without talking to bench players. There are numerous accounts of former players who say Thibs never talked to them more than once or twice while they were a Knicks. I don't know how that is going to work, but I think the FO saw the way he would completely block out players they drafted to be developed and had enough of Thibs pig headed ways. You don't see that now. Brown is talking to everyone on the roster. They clearly hired Brown in part because of this and it is showing results.
And it is probably true Bridges didn't want Thibs back. Coming from one of the iron men of his era, for Bridges to publicly challenge Thibs for his minutes managements was the writing on the wall.
When your FO and starters don't want the coach back, I'm pretty sure I'm not making up reasons for Thibs failure to stick as a coach. Rose thought it was serious enough an issue to fire Thibs just a year into a new extension.
BlueKnickers wrote:nyvector16 wrote:All our young talent went from being liabilities under Thibs to big assets under Brown.
This is the way forward with the new 2nd Apron limitations.
Knicks specifically quoted player development in new CBA era as a reason for moving on from Thibs and they were spot on!We are in such a good place because Knicks mgmt saw through the overplaying starters routine and actually understand how basketball works both on the court and managing a roster.
We have two weak links at the moment taking a roster spot, but that will be handled as well.
Great time to be a Knicks fan!!!
That's really the key point: management saw the need to replace Thibs. I hold this front office's management abilities in way higher esteem than I do Thibs coaching abilities. And good management decided it was time to upgrade the coach.When we drafted Kolek, we set a new NBA record for the highest guaranteed multi-year contract ever awarded to a 2nd round player coming out of the draft. Another team eclipsed that record right afterwards, but how often do you see a FO going all in on a 2nd rounder from the get go like that?
That kind of commitment was not carried through by Thibs. Kolek needed to upgrade his defense of course, but seeing how well he has done that it is not like he couldn't have been coached up during the previous season too and he would only suddenly turn into a viable defender a couple weeks ago. IMO, Brown pushed Kolek in ways Thibs did not do.
Thibs was one of those coaches who would go months without talking to bench players. There are numerous accounts of former players who say Thibs never talked to them more than once or twice while they were a Knicks. I don't know how that is going to work, but I think the FO saw the way he would completely block out players they drafted to be developed and had enough of Thibs pig headed ways. You don't see that now. Brown is talking to everyone on the roster. They clearly hired Brown in part because of this and it is showing results.
And it is probably true Bridges didn't want Thibs back. Coming from one of the iron men of his era, for Bridges to publicly challenge Thibs for his minutes managements was the writing on the wall.
When your FO and starters don't want the coach back, I'm pretty sure I'm not making up reasons for Thibs failure to stick as a coach. Rose thought it was serious enough an issue to fire Thibs just a year into a new extension.
I was really surprised to see Kolek out there for the final defensive possession against the Hawks. Brown subbed Brunson out to put him in. Says a lot about Brown's trust.
gradyandrew wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:nyvector16 wrote:All our young talent went from being liabilities under Thibs to big assets under Brown.
This is the way forward with the new 2nd Apron limitations.
Knicks specifically quoted player development in new CBA era as a reason for moving on from Thibs and they were spot on!We are in such a good place because Knicks mgmt saw through the overplaying starters routine and actually understand how basketball works both on the court and managing a roster.
We have two weak links at the moment taking a roster spot, but that will be handled as well.
Great time to be a Knicks fan!!!
That's really the key point: management saw the need to replace Thibs. I hold this front office's management abilities in way higher esteem than I do Thibs coaching abilities. And good management decided it was time to upgrade the coach.When we drafted Kolek, we set a new NBA record for the highest guaranteed multi-year contract ever awarded to a 2nd round player coming out of the draft. Another team eclipsed that record right afterwards, but how often do you see a FO going all in on a 2nd rounder from the get go like that?
That kind of commitment was not carried through by Thibs. Kolek needed to upgrade his defense of course, but seeing how well he has done that it is not like he couldn't have been coached up during the previous season too and he would only suddenly turn into a viable defender a couple weeks ago. IMO, Brown pushed Kolek in ways Thibs did not do.
Thibs was one of those coaches who would go months without talking to bench players. There are numerous accounts of former players who say Thibs never talked to them more than once or twice while they were a Knicks. I don't know how that is going to work, but I think the FO saw the way he would completely block out players they drafted to be developed and had enough of Thibs pig headed ways. You don't see that now. Brown is talking to everyone on the roster. They clearly hired Brown in part because of this and it is showing results.
And it is probably true Bridges didn't want Thibs back. Coming from one of the iron men of his era, for Bridges to publicly challenge Thibs for his minutes managements was the writing on the wall.
When your FO and starters don't want the coach back, I'm pretty sure I'm not making up reasons for Thibs failure to stick as a coach. Rose thought it was serious enough an issue to fire Thibs just a year into a new extension.
I was really surprised to see Kolek out there for the final defensive possession against the Hawks. Brown subbed Brunson out to put him in. Says a lot about Brown's trust.
Not like Brunson is all defense team! Also, Jalen had 4 fouls and in the event knicks go to OT that could factor.
Bottom line was Thibs for all his warts won a lot of games and knicks I'd say 4 of his 5 years outperformed expectations. While in hindsight we punch holes in the job he did one has to look at the start of each season and the ceiling.
That said, Leon in hindsight saw there was some issues and potentially Thibs personality and manner had reached the level where it was time. Larry Brown long ago said 5 years was the time a team gets tired of its coach and stops listening.
That, and the minutes thing (Hart) and MIkal not being happy all made for many reasons to not fire him for cause or doing a bad job, but simply it was time to elevate beyond his scope with this team. Yes, it was super important for this team to need a bench which got elevated but the younger guys actually contribut. Thibs had trust issues and wanted to win like every game. For this team to succeed its coach needed to build thru the season. Brown was a good choice.
