Knicks · Game: Knicks (25-14) go Shopping in Sacramento (10-30) 1/14 10pm (page 6)

mattshaw78 wrote:I really don't understand why basketball players don't wear high tops anymore. With all the ankle problems you think they would

NYKBocker wrote:

mattshaw78 wrote:I really don't understand why basketball players don't wear high tops anymore. With all the ankle problems you think they would

Something about high tops protects the he ankle but messes up the knee 🤷

Correct, it shifts the most likely injury point to a different place, that’s the theory.

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It's the time where teams have had a chance to feel each other out and game plan enough?

We've lost 6-8 ---- Kat is clearly crying for his binky (behind the scenes) and I'm not sure we have the personalities in this locker room to challenge him to some fist-a-cuffs.

Imagine being a serious NBA player and watching what Kat does on a nightly basis -- beyond me how players/coaches don't beat him with rubber hoses.

LivingLegend wrote:Scary part with this game is this was a game for the roster to have Brown's back in his return to SacTown but the entire squad basically pissed in his milk.

We've lost 6-8 ---- Kat is clearly crying for his binky (behind the scenes) and I'm not sure we have the personalities in this locker room to challenge him to some fist-a-cuffs.

Imagine being a serious NBA player and watching what Kat does on a nightly basis -- beyond me how players/coaches don't beat him with rubber hoses.

Pulp Fiction style with ball and hog tied like Bruce Willis and Marcellus Wallace?

ramtour420 wrote:I just want a Center that defends,boxes out and rebounds. Preferably he would be the best at it. I don't care if he doesn't shoot 3's. Just good defense with your feet, rebounding and making the free throws. iHart would be ideal. I'd trade Towns for him straight up. And it would be addition by subtraction

This deal works on Spotrac - no idea if Knicks would consider or Suns would entertain.

Kat/Yabu/Shamet for M-Williams/J-Green/G-Allen

Knicks get young (injury prone) center, talented young 2-guard that can make plays with ball in his hands and steady hard nosed vet in Allen.

Jalen/Kolek
Green/Deuce/Clarkson
Mikal/Allen
OG/Hart
Williams/Mitch

martin wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Scary part with this game is this was a game for the roster to have Brown's back in his return to SacTown but the entire squad basically pissed in his milk.

We've lost 6-8 ---- Kat is clearly crying for his binky (behind the scenes) and I'm not sure we have the personalities in this locker room to challenge him to some fist-a-cuffs.

Imagine being a serious NBA player and watching what Kat does on a nightly basis -- beyond me how players/coaches don't beat him with rubber hoses.

Pulp Fiction style with ball and hog tied like Bruce Willis and Marcellus Wallace?

YEP

BlueKnickers wrote:This is what I'm realizing now about our starters. They're all veterans and paid a king's ransom.

Now think about the hungry young wings on teams like San Antonio or Detroit. Young, athletic, bursting with energy.

The league has more Tier 2 talent (not superstars, but excellent role players and defenders) than any time I can recall in recent decades.

Lots of teams have drafted good players that are making impacts in the last few seasons and building themselves up fast into playoff teams and contenders.

That's what we're going up against many nights (though not tonight) and we're not bringing the focus and energy every game.

Frankly, our starters are looking stale for weeks now. They don't have the juice of lots of squads they're facing.

TBH, I think Rose has to shake things up. This is not on Coach Brown IMO.

If I had to target one player, it would be KAT even though I feel both OG and Bridges have been major disappointments since winning the cup game.

You can't retool all three positions and I think OG and Bridges can be made to lock in again with the right chemistry, so I'm going to gamble it is KAT they need to trade, hopefully for the Greek.

Not sure I get that part. I thought part of the process and one of the differentiators from last year to this one was the use of the bench. 2 guys on bench didn't give the Knicks much, Deuce and perhaps Clarkson early on? Yabu failed and has failed all season. Didn't watch enough to get where Kolek fell. Mitch did Mitch things.

This game in particular the starters were struggling. Mo, McCullar play with zest. I guess Dadiet aint ready but why not last night when things were rough anyway? Huk was tentitive for game cause of a quad thing but available.

Why not go to the guy who are fighting for playing time and contracts and do play with energy, while also understandably perhaps not 100% ready?

Still can't believe Heat were gifted Norm Powell for pack of licorice.

martin wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:This is what I'm realizing now about our starters. They're all veterans and paid a king's ransom.

Now think about the hungry young wings on teams like San Antonio or Detroit. Young, athletic, bursting with energy.

The league has more Tier 2 talent (not superstars, but excellent role players and defenders) than any time I can recall in recent decades.

Lots of teams have drafted good players that are making impacts in the last few seasons and building themselves up fast into playoff teams and contenders.

That's what we're going up against many nights (though not tonight) and we're not bringing the focus and energy every game.

Frankly, our starters are looking stale for weeks now. They don't have the juice of lots of squads they're facing.

TBH, I think Rose has to shake things up. This is not on Coach Brown IMO.

If I had to target one player, it would be KAT even though I feel both OG and Bridges have been major disappointments since winning the cup game.

You can't retool all three positions and I think OG and Bridges can be made to lock in again with the right chemistry, so I'm going to gamble it is KAT they need to trade, hopefully for the Greek.

Not sure I get that part. I thought part of the process and one of the differentiators from last year to this one was the use of the bench. 2 guys on bench didn't give the Knicks much, Deuce and perhaps Clarkson early on? Yabu failed and has failed all season. Didn't watch enough to get where Kolek fell. Mitch did Mitch things.

This game in particular the starters were struggling. Mo, McCullar play with zest. I guess Dadiet aint ready but why not last night when things were rough anyway? Huk was tentitive for game cause of a quad thing but available.

Why not go to the guy who are fighting for playing time and contracts and do play with energy, while also understandably perhaps not 100% ready?

Brown (like the rest of us) was probably too shocked with what he was watching and frozen into inaction.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Scary part with this game is this was a game for the roster to have Brown's back in his return to SacTown but the entire squad basically pissed in his milk.

We've lost 6-8 ---- Kat is clearly crying for his binky (behind the scenes) and I'm not sure we have the personalities in this locker room to challenge him to some fist-a-cuffs.

Imagine being a serious NBA player and watching what Kat does on a nightly basis -- beyond me how players/coaches don't beat him with rubber hoses.

Pulp Fiction style with ball and hog tied like Bruce Willis and Marcellus Wallace?

YEP

martin wrote:

BlueKnickers wrote:This is what I'm realizing now about our starters. They're all veterans and paid a king's ransom.

Now think about the hungry young wings on teams like San Antonio or Detroit. Young, athletic, bursting with energy.

The league has more Tier 2 talent (not superstars, but excellent role players and defenders) than any time I can recall in recent decades.

Lots of teams have drafted good players that are making impacts in the last few seasons and building themselves up fast into playoff teams and contenders.

That's what we're going up against many nights (though not tonight) and we're not bringing the focus and energy every game.

Frankly, our starters are looking stale for weeks now. They don't have the juice of lots of squads they're facing.

TBH, I think Rose has to shake things up. This is not on Coach Brown IMO.

If I had to target one player, it would be KAT even though I feel both OG and Bridges have been major disappointments since winning the cup game.

You can't retool all three positions and I think OG and Bridges can be made to lock in again with the right chemistry, so I'm going to gamble it is KAT they need to trade, hopefully for the Greek.

Not sure I get that part. I thought part of the process and one of the differentiators from last year to this one was the use of the bench. 2 guys on bench didn't give the Knicks much, Deuce and perhaps Clarkson early on? Yabu failed and has failed all season. Didn't watch enough to get where Kolek fell. Mitch did Mitch things.

This game in particular the starters were struggling. Mo, McCullar play with zest. I guess Dadiet aint ready but why not last night when things were rough anyway? Huk was tentitive for game cause of a quad thing but available.

Why not go to the guy who are fighting for playing time and contracts and do play with energy, while also understandably perhaps not 100% ready?

It is debatable of course, but I'm not inclined to blame KAT's erratic and unreliable contributions on defense on Brown. And I do think our team's core is unstable because of KAT more than the recent lackluster play of wingstop.

I do think Brown did hammer KAT on his stupid hooking fouls and yelling "omigod" at the refs everything he queefed at the rim and got him recently to consider maybe those are not good behaviors.
But I'm not sure KAT is entirely coachable, because he's often the dumbest Knick on the floor in spite of the occasional gee whiz pass.

As for playing youth, he did until a couple of games ago so I'm not about to go off on him for a couple of games with a tighter rotation which is part of experimentation as a coach.

The one player I want on the floor more is McCullar, especially instead of Clarkson whom I don't care much for. Clarkson is just another journeyman shooter whereas McCullar is a legit glue guy of the future. OG is supposed to be our glue guy, but he's struggling, so, yeah, get Kevin some minutes. We need the D.

But mostly, I'm down on KAT because this club needs more frontline scary people besides Mitch. I'll gladly give up KAT's offensive production for a dominating defensive center. Huk kind of sucks already sadly. And on that note, I'd like to give Jemison more burn, because I've liked what I've seen of him.

Right now this club is really a pu$$y team. Earlier in the season I would have laughed at such a statement, but right now I don't think we're as tough as many clubs out there. We need an injection of ultra violence into this roster.

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