This is a huge pick for us. Knicks have lots of apron based decisions to make and they will need to slide new talent into the rotation soon. Similar to what Boston was able to do.
DLeethal wrote:This is a huge pick for us. Knicks have lots of apron based decisions to make and they will need to slide new talent into the rotation soon. Similar to what Boston was able to do.
You're right. They could off load any first rounders over the next few years and keep stacking those 2nd rounders.
They've been so good at scouting for the 2nd round in the draft they should feel confident about that strategy.
DLeethal wrote:This is a huge pick for us. Knicks have lots of apron based decisions to make and they will need to slide new talent into the rotation soon. Similar to what Boston was able to do.
Yeah this is where a 2 year solid window can turn into a 7 year one, give or take.
outside of blowing the team up and letting MItch walk, I dont think there's any real scenario where we can stay under the 2nd apron. I think we made sure to stay under it while we could, knowing this 2 year stretch is coming up where we have to go over.
assuming we keep Mitch and assuming Jose opts in. we are looking at
KAT/Mitch
OG/Mo
Hart
Mikal/Deuce
Brunson/Jose/Kolek
thats 10 guys already. and you have to think Shamet can be resigned, and Clarkson too if we want. Sochan too I imagine came here thinking longer term. that 12-13 deep quite possibly. and then you have the fringe guys like McCullar, Dadiet.
truth is we dont NEED those picks this summer and maybe kicking them down the road is best. we have a very deep team if we can just keep everyone together.
martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.
Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you
Would that word be Bust?
I still think Fizdale and the front office did Kevin Knox dirty.
gradyandrew wrote:martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.
Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you
Would that word be Bust?
I still think Fizdale and the front office did Kevin Knox dirty.
Not sure if serious
Well, fun fact, but does anyone remember Knox had a rookie of the month accolade during his first season? He did have a hot streak for a moment there
It's a zero sum game, whenever a team wins, another loses. If you are having a season with multiple 50 and 60 win teams, you are going to have teams with 50 or 60 losses. If you really want to end tanking, the best fix is to shorten the length of time first round picks are locked into their teams. Just do away with RFA and have them extension eligible after their second season and hit free agency after year 3.
Doing so will put pressure on those bottom teams to improve quicker to keep those guys, and also reinvigorate free agency so that cap management and organizational competence matter more than just tanking it every year.
BlueKnickers wrote:gradyandrew wrote:martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.
Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you
Would that word be Bust?
I still think Fizdale and the front office did Kevin Knox dirty.
Not sure if serious
Well, fun fact, but does anyone remember Knox had a rookie of the month accolade during his first season? He did have a hot streak for a moment there
No, not joking.Knox had no business as a 9 pick starting and leading the team in FGA when there were better players like Dotson and Trier waiting in the wings. Knox was force fed minutes and shots as a way to tank and then after the team drafted RJ was more or less regulated to the bench role he should have been learning from the start.
I just think it was a shitty way to handle the career of a kid, basically knowing he would fail and using that as a tool to land Zion, then get KD and Kyrie.
Having the top pick in the second round now that it’s a 2-day draft is extra good value. We dictate the 2nd round.
gradyandrew wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:gradyandrew wrote:martin wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:Chandler wrote:FWIW we seem to have great success w second round picks and not so much w lottery level ones.
Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox would like to have a word with you
Would that word be Bust?
I still think Fizdale and the front office did Kevin Knox dirty.
Not sure if serious
Well, fun fact, but does anyone remember Knox had a rookie of the month accolade during his first season? He did have a hot streak for a moment there
No, not joking.Knox had no business as a 9 pick starting and leading the team in FGA when there were better players like Dotson and Trier waiting in the wings. Knox was force fed minutes and shots as a way to tank and then after the team drafted RJ was more or less regulated to the bench role he should have been learning from the start.
I just think it was a shitty way to handle the career of a kid, basically knowing he would fail and using that as a tool to land Zion, then get KD and Kyrie.
That's some conspiracy theory saying a team used the 9th pick to ensure they tanked even harder.
And the idea that Dotson and Trier were really good players whose path to a successful career were blocked by pushing Knox is the weirdest thing I've seen written on this forum so far.
Those two played themselves out of the league with no shove provided by either the Knicks or Knox.
Trier was an idiotic chucker who flamed out immediately. There's a reason no other NBA team gave him a shot.
Dotson was better and he played 27 MPG in his second season as a Knick so nobody blocked him from nothing. And he got another chance with the Cavs and he couldn't stick there.
You're tripping
I don't think it's really a conspiracy theory. Knicks were tanking hard that year and the tank was giving Knox the green light to put up any shot he wanted. I think that was detrimental to his career.
Hoping we can get a Frank Williams or Renaldo Balkman quality selection this year.
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