Knicks · What do we do with the 15th Roster spot [2/12 Jeremy Sochan for the win!] (page 4)

GTA Deuce Shamet Mo/Sochan Mitch

Kolek McCullar Dadiet Huk Jemison

Phew that is deep. That’s what she said

martin wrote:Brunson Mikal Hart OG KAT

GTA Deuce Shamet Mo/Sochan Mitch

Kolek McCullar Dadiet Huk Jemison

Phew that is deep. That’s what she said

Forgot Clarkson? Or avoided him?

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Brunson Mikal Hart OG KAT

GTA Deuce Shamet Mo/Sochan Mitch

Kolek McCullar Dadiet Huk Jemison

Phew that is deep. That’s what she said

Forgot Clarkson? Or avoided him?

Ha yeah, last line for him.

martin wrote:Loving the wing depth

Josh 6’5”
Mikal 6’6”
OG 6’7”
Sochan 6’8”
Diawara 6’9”

I kind of want Bridges at SG and OG at SF with either Diawara or Sochan at PF - to make the positional size advantage. Diawara helps with the natural 5 out and I think his development is enhanced by the minutes in the SL. I tend to think that Hart and Bridges use a lot of the same possession types and Bridges would benefit from being staggered with Hart. Bridges can handle bringing up the ball for Brunson. I see Sochan as a Hart archetype with positional size -BigHart comment. He could replace Hart in the SL as well bring a lot of the same energy if you want to stagger and take advantage of positional size better. Harts the better player though, so not surprised if he keeps his SL spot.

Finally having good problems.

Need more 41 assist nights on our books.

OG was out for the massacre by DET, but generally we need depth where a tough 6'8" grinder forward can handle some of those assignments.

He's essentially OG insurance. Even though MO can start in place of OG, he is not at this point a physical bruiser defensively.

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Loving the wing depth

Josh 6’5”
Mikal 6’6”
OG 6’7”
Sochan 6’8”
Diawara 6’9”

I kind of want Bridges at SG and OG at SF with either Diawara or Sochan at PF - to make the positional size advantage. Diawara helps with the natural 5 out and I think his development is enhanced by the minutes in the SL. I tend to think that Hart and Bridges use a lot of the same possession types and Bridges would benefit from being staggered with Hart. Bridges can handle bringing up the ball for Brunson. I see Sochan as a Hart archetype with positional size -BigHart comment. He could replace Hart in the SL as well bring a lot of the same energy if you want to stagger and take advantage of positional size better. Harts the better player though, so not surprised if he keeps his SL spot.

Finally having good problems.

Need more 41 assist nights on our books.

This is the way, once MO is ready. Brown has started him 4 times at low mins. But he has yet to play with the full potential starting lineup. Every start someone was missing.

BlueKnickers wrote:Sochan was picked up to improve our matchups with teams like DET and, ironically, SA, where big, young, athletic squads give us issues.

OG was out for the massacre by DET, but generally we need depth where a tough 6'8" grinder forward can handle some of those assignments.

He's essentially OG insurance. Even though MO can start in place of OG, he is not at this point a physical bruiser defensively.

And when Mitch sits on back to backs, Knicks get a small ball C. Who can dribble, switch, but not shoot from distance

newyorknewyork wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Loving the wing depth

Josh 6’5”
Mikal 6’6”
OG 6’7”
Sochan 6’8”
Diawara 6’9”

I kind of want Bridges at SG and OG at SF with either Diawara or Sochan at PF - to make the positional size advantage. Diawara helps with the natural 5 out and I think his development is enhanced by the minutes in the SL. I tend to think that Hart and Bridges use a lot of the same possession types and Bridges would benefit from being staggered with Hart. Bridges can handle bringing up the ball for Brunson. I see Sochan as a Hart archetype with positional size -BigHart comment. He could replace Hart in the SL as well bring a lot of the same energy if you want to stagger and take advantage of positional size better. Harts the better player though, so not surprised if he keeps his SL spot.

Finally having good problems.

Need more 41 assist nights on our books.

This is the way, once MO is ready. Brown has started him 4 times at low mins. But he has yet to play with the full potential starting lineup. Every start someone was missing.

I have wondered about the low minute starts.

Maybe this is the development of Mo Diawara, and they kinda sorta script out or have a limited set of plays to run that he is familiar with and keep to that routine when he starts. Change it slightly every time he gets a chance but keep it simple and limited in minutes.

Maybe.

martin wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

martin wrote:Loving the wing depth

Josh 6’5”
Mikal 6’6”
OG 6’7”
Sochan 6’8”
Diawara 6’9”

I kind of want Bridges at SG and OG at SF with either Diawara or Sochan at PF - to make the positional size advantage. Diawara helps with the natural 5 out and I think his development is enhanced by the minutes in the SL. I tend to think that Hart and Bridges use a lot of the same possession types and Bridges would benefit from being staggered with Hart. Bridges can handle bringing up the ball for Brunson. I see Sochan as a Hart archetype with positional size -BigHart comment. He could replace Hart in the SL as well bring a lot of the same energy if you want to stagger and take advantage of positional size better. Harts the better player though, so not surprised if he keeps his SL spot.

Finally having good problems.

Need more 41 assist nights on our books.

This is the way, once MO is ready. Brown has started him 4 times at low mins. But he has yet to play with the full potential starting lineup. Every start someone was missing.

I have wondered about the low minute starts.

Maybe this is the development of Mo Diawara, and they kinda sorta script out or have a limited set of plays to run that he is familiar with and keep to that routine when he starts. Change it slightly every time he gets a chance but keep it simple and limited in minutes.

Maybe.

The fact that he's gotten 4 starts says they def have been trying to slowly groom him for the role. They know what MO reaching even solid role players status in the starting lineup means for the squad.

He actually has 6 total starts not 4 so corection. Most of any "prospect" on the team. Yabu never even got a start as a front court vet.

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My only concern is that the Spurs were willing to just let him go for nothing.

…and what sucks is that this means McCullar will be left off the playoff roster. Big fan and hope the Knicks keep him up for next year.

Weird that 4 first round players (3 lottery picks), from the 2022 Lottery draft were traded, or waived, during this most recent trading deadline.

Swishfm3 wrote:This is who I was hoping the Knicks drafted in 2022. Aside from highlights and articles, haven’t seen much of him in the NBA but I am excited the Knicks were able to pick him up.

My only concern is that the Spurs were willing to just let him go for nothing.

…and what sucks is that this means McCullar will be left off the playoff roster. Big fan and hope the Knicks keep him up for next year.

Weird that 4 first round players (3 lottery picks), from the 2022 Lottery draft were traded, or waived, during this most recent trading deadline.

I can see Clarkson eventually waived and McCullar taking his place late in the year. But maybe the Knicks are set.

LivingLegend wrote:Do we have his bird rights or no go?

Definitely no bird rights, non bird rights

So, like only 120% or exceptions

martin wrote:Noted

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crazy that Hart is shooting 3's so much better than KAT and on same volume. Hart has legitimately been very good and consistent from 3.

                                         
Rk               Player  G   3P  3PA 3P%V
1         Jose Alvarado  3  3.3  7.3 .455
2         Landry Shamet 30  2.2  5.1 .422
3         Miles McBride 35  2.9  6.9 .420
4       Mohamed Diawara 45  0.6  1.4 .413
5             Josh Hart 43  1.6  3.9 .407
6         Mikal Bridges 55  2.1  5.6 .386
7         Jalen Brunson 50  2.9  7.8 .374
8            OG Anunoby 41  2.1  5.6 .370
9           Tyler Kolek 48  0.8  2.1 .364
10   Kevin McCullar Jr. 16  0.4  1.1 .353
11   Karl-Anthony Towns 51  1.6  4.5 .351
12      Jordan Clarkson 51  1.2  3.6 .333
            Team Totals 55 15.0 39.8 .378

SergioNYK wrote:Adding a wing defender like Sochan for the minimum at this point in the season is really lucky. He also has some dawg in him which we still needed. I just hope this doesn't mean Diawara ends up like Kolek glued to the bench. I don't like it when young players get demoted for no fault of their own!

To play devil's advocate, if Sochan cuts into MO's minutes, is that really the worst thing considering MO's RFA status? Maybe it helps us hide MO a bit more while not losing much.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:

Per previous post --- another body to throw at Cunningham, Brown, Mitchell, Franz, Harden...etc.

this is on the money. our path through the playoffs will encounter a lot of big guards, and if we make the finals we're talking SGA or Castle

the loser in this move, unforunately, is Jose. His minutes will be scarcer

nycericanguy wrote:

SergioNYK wrote:Adding a wing defender like Sochan for the minimum at this point in the season is really lucky. He also has some dawg in him which we still needed. I just hope this doesn't mean Diawara ends up like Kolek glued to the bench. I don't like it when young players get demoted for no fault of their own!

To play devil's advocate, if Sochan cuts into MO's minutes, is that really the worst thing considering MO's RFA status? Maybe it helps us hide MO a bit more while not losing much.

Mo and Sochan play different roles on the team even though they are the same height and may play the same position.

No one is complaining that GTA will take away minutes from Brunson or Deuce. He is a good addition to them too.