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martin wrote:Let’s talk about Detroit helping us get here

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Didn't we trade them Jalen Duran?

this FO deserves a ton of credit for targeting Brunson, and for not caving into Ainge for DM.

Detroit would be toughest test if that's who we play, but this team is just different. They aren't gonna get punked, they are playing with a huge edge right now. And Brown has been masterful at scheming his defense, they completely shut down Maxey like has never been done to him before. Mikal and OG are playing like shutdown corners in football right now. I trust they can scheme and expose their lack of offensive depth, and I don't think DET is gonna bully us like they did in the reg season. These Knicks are a completely different team than what we have seen, anything prior goes out the window.

ToddTT wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Martin understands.

Get a room you two

Rest or Rust? We got a long rest between series. Time to get those bodies right.

DLeethal wrote:Detroit would be toughest test if that's who we play, but this team is just different. They aren't gonna get punked, they are playing with a huge edge right now. And Brown has been masterful at scheming his defense, they completely shut down Maxey like has never been done to him before. Mikal and OG are playing like shutdown corners in football right now. I trust they can scheme and expose their lack of offensive depth, and I don't think DET is gonna bully us like they did in the reg season. These Knicks are a completely different team than what we have seen, anything prior goes out the window.

I agree. This quality of play this past 7 games is not something you do on occasion.

It is what happens when the talent rises to the level the coaches set for them. All along I've said we have perhaps the most talent in the league, but that won't buy you a Big Mac if you don't play fundamentally sound ball on both ends.

The criticisms were perfectly valid and they have made the corrections that needed to happen. Brunson adapted. KAT got weaponized. The ball is moving and Wingstop is involved. The bench is coming back to life.

Championship ball is a state of mind. It requires a collective will that is committed to stopping the other team from doing what they want. When you play championship caliber defense, the offense usually clicks into place when you have the scoring talent we do.

It took all season to happen at 5 minutes to midnight, but they pulled it together at just the right time.

They are not going to be casual the next round. I expect something fierce from the Knicks.

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Could be a bit premature but I think the Knicks, OKC, and Spurs are probably all in the same category of elite teams? I haven't watched the young Spurs at all so could be off there.

But we here. Knicks with this type of play is a 60+ win team during the regular season and that's what I would expect next year.

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Could be a bit premature but I think the Knicks, OKC, and Spurs are probably all in the same category of elite teams? I haven't watched the young Spurs at all so could be off there.

But we here. Knicks with this type of play is a 60+ win team during the regular season and that's what I would expect next year.

Crazy how I’m hearing Towns has been saying they should play through him that he loves to assist/pass and wears Magic Johnson’s number. Knicks had a big advantage at with size/center against Atlanta and with our backs to the wall finally decided to exploit the miss match. We need to thank Atlanta for saving our franchise. If we crashed and burned in the second rd who knows what this team would have looked like next season. As it is now we are looking at minor tweaks and salary management. You gotta think the Giannis noise is off the table with this team finding generational harmony. Ahhhh the zen of being a Knicks fan. I never doubted us!

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Could be a bit premature but I think the Knicks, OKC, and Spurs are probably all in the same category of elite teams? I haven't watched the young Spurs at all so could be off there.

But we here. Knicks with this type of play is a 60+ win team during the regular season and that's what I would expect next year.

Or..... This team doesn't need to dominate in the regular season, and they are fine experimenting with players, lineups and strategies, and they keep opponents guessing till the playoffs? I don't know if any NBA team would think that way, or that is just silly talk.

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Could be a bit premature but I think the Knicks, OKC, and Spurs are probably all in the same category of elite teams? I haven't watched the young Spurs at all so could be off there.

But we here. Knicks with this type of play is a 60+ win team during the regular season and that's what I would expect next year.

Or..... This team doesn't need to dominate in the regular season, and they are fine experimenting with players, lineups and strategies, and they keep opponents guessing till the playoffs? I don't know if any NBA team would think that way, or that is just silly talk.

KAT talked a lot about not feeling comfortable or whatnot in the system, pretty much all year long.

To me, the Knicks had a lot of learning to do and it started with Brunson and KAT and trickled down from there. They also put their foot down on the defensive side about halfway in too

If you catch a lobster in the Detroit River is that a Canadian Lobster?

Don't get too high, don't get too low- enjoy the ride.

What are the matchups?
Hart on Cade
KAT on Duren
Bridges on Robinson
OG on Harris
Brunson in Thompson?

gradyandrew wrote:Don't get too high, don't get too low- enjoy the ride.

What are the matchups?
Hart on Cade
KAT on Duren
Bridges on Robinson
OG on Harris
Brunson in Thompson?

I’d put OG on Cade and Hart on Harris. Harris plays soft.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

martin wrote:

Rookie wrote:

ToddTT wrote:Well fuck. The Sixers bout to win four in a row.

Well this didn’t age well

Reverse jinx to perfection

Let’s talk OKC

Could be a bit premature but I think the Knicks, OKC, and Spurs are probably all in the same category of elite teams? I haven't watched the young Spurs at all so could be off there.

But we here. Knicks with this type of play is a 60+ win team during the regular season and that's what I would expect next year.

Or..... This team doesn't need to dominate in the regular season, and they are fine experimenting with players, lineups and strategies, and they keep opponents guessing till the playoffs? I don't know if any NBA team would think that way, or that is just silly talk.

KAT talked a lot about not feeling comfortable or whatnot in the system, pretty much all year long.

To me, the Knicks had a lot of learning to do and it started with Brunson and KAT and trickled down from there. They also put their foot down on the defensive side about halfway in too

It was always about Brunson and KAT calibrating their roles, because Josh and Wingstop don't need any adjustments. Those three are ready to roll and play off their teammates as long as the ball is moving. Look at Bridges. Whether he scores a bunch or not, he's fully engaged on both ends.

As far as experimenting and hiding your true method until the playoffs, I have never believed those speculations for one second. If a team is going to find their groove they do it as soon as they figure it out. There is no mothballing a secret strategy until the playoffs. That's for conspiracy nuts.

GS didn't wait to figure how to utilize Green with Curry and unveil it in the playoffs. They worked it out in real time and perfected it in the regular season. We're just late bloomers this season.

Brunson had to re-calibrate foremost. Without that, none of this would have happened. It took way too long for Brunson to concede more of the offense should flow through KAT, but I'll just say I'm glad he did before his stubborness sealed the team's fate. Until Brunson eased off on the ISO there was no way for KAT to be unleashed and for everyone to sync up.

KAT was already showing all of these behaviors with six weeks to go in the season. His whining to the refs dropped heavily, his stupid fouls were reduced significantly, his defense stepped up, his passing became elite and his efficiency was climbing. But to really unlock all that KAT has to offer with real consistency and the kind of intensity that leads to dominating team performances like we're seeing, Brunson had to loosen his grip.

Brown was right all along. I was right. It was an authority issue. Brown was trying to raise his kids right, but I think Rick stepped in and gave Jalen the business and set him straight and thereafter we've been dominating the court.

I was too harsh on Rick. He probably saved the season by telling his son to wake TF up and share the ball.

Philc1 wrote:If you catch a lobster in the Detroit River is that a Canadian Lobster?

No, it's Smokey Robinson

If Bridges can smother Duncan Robinson and not let him get off from 3 we should be in great shape as Cade won't have the space he needs to pick us apart... I would also think maybe playing the twin towers more to offer some paint protection as Detroit will look to be physical with us (as they were all season long).

OG usually guards the best player

Cavs won
2-2
Softening each other up for a rested Knicks team
Mwah hah ha hah

Let's talk Cleveland?

Knicks getting a week off which helps especially OG. He probably won’t be 100% rest of the way.