Knicks · NBA FINALS Game 5: Knicks @ Spurs 6/13 @ 8:30pm: Dr. Seuss - "Today was good. Today was fun. Tomorrow is another one." (page 33)

BlueKnickers @ 7/23/2026 3:25 PM
Philc1 wrote:
grillco wrote:Why is there so much negativity and outright hatred for the Knicks?

It’s all over socials as if they were the only competitive team and had won the last 10 chips.

They are the most Everyman team to win a ring in forever. Scrappy underdogs, underrated, unwilling to quit…

Anyway, still feeling so much joy related to this run and win.

20+ years of relentless knick bashing by the media.

We sucked for two decades and Knicks fans themselves pushed the narrative that ownership was clueless and more interested in sniffing Don Henley's undergarments

We had a period of morally defective leadership when Zeke was here. Later, we got the pomp and circumstance of bringing in Phil Jackson, the most decorated coach in recent NBA history, who was close to a complete disaster (though he kept our picks). His bloviating BS and apparent disinterest in actually doing his job certainly didn't help the worn storyline of a dysfunctional franchise.

Heap on top of that NYC's traditional role in the heartland as a meme for the end of American civilization during a two decade swing to the right and you had a perfect recipe to hate the Knicks and its native city.

The media are mostly click whores so they took the easiest path and rode the popular narrative about NYC and its dysfunctional basketball team. The mecca of hoops and the world's greatest arena didn't stand a chance without the Knicks becoming a legit contender.

Americans generally prefer heads-down low-drama winners over peacocks, therefore even winning the championship wouldn't have been enough to turn the Knicks into the world's darlings. It was made possible by the unassuming nature of our key players, particularly Brunson and now OG with his tip-in for the ages rise to fame.

Our dudes are quiet and roll up your sleeves types compared to a media groomed personality like Wemby. Beating him was the perfect storm to completely break the old narrative and make us the good guys, far more than if we had beaten OKC for the chip. This was the perfect setup to make the Knicks an American heroes team.

The irony of all of this is the Knicks have the largest HARDCORE fanbase in the NBA with fans that show up at arenas everywhere. But the national and global perception of a team is not driven as much by its own fanbase as it is by the fickle hand of history which handed the Knicks the perfect scenario to turn themselves into everybody's second favorite team.

Once the media whores saw we were trending during an epic playoff run they started getting behind us, predictably so.

Nalod @ 7/23/2026 11:53 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
grillco wrote:Why is there so much negativity and outright hatred for the Knicks?

It’s all over socials as if they were the only competitive team and had won the last 10 chips.

They are the most Everyman team to win a ring in forever. Scrappy underdogs, underrated, unwilling to quit…

Anyway, still feeling so much joy related to this run and win.

20+ years of relentless knick bashing by the media.

We sucked for two decades and Knicks fans themselves pushed the narrative that ownership was clueless and more interested in sniffing Don Henley's undergarments

We had a period of morally defective leadership when Zeke was here. Later, we got the pomp and circumstance of bringing in Phil Jackson, the most decorated coach in recent NBA history, who was close to a complete disaster (though he kept our picks). His bloviating BS and apparent disinterest in actually doing his job certainly didn't help the worn storyline of a dysfunctional franchise.

Heap on top of that NYC's traditional role in the heartland as a meme for the end of American civilization during a two decade swing to the right and you had a perfect recipe to hate the Knicks and its native city.

The media are mostly click whores so they took the easiest path and rode the popular narrative about NYC and its dysfunctional basketball team. The mecca of hoops and the world's greatest arena didn't stand a chance without the Knicks becoming a legit contender.

Americans generally prefer heads-down low-drama winners over peacocks, therefore even winning the championship wouldn't have been enough to turn the Knicks into the world's darlings. It was made possible by the unassuming nature of our key players, particularly Brunson and now OG with his tip-in for the ages rise to fame.

Our dudes are quiet and roll up your sleeves types compared to a media groomed personality like Wemby. Beating him was the perfect storm to completely break the old narrative and make us the good guys, far more than if we had beaten OKC for the chip. This was the perfect setup to make the Knicks an American heroes team.

The irony of all of this is the Knicks have the largest HARDCORE fanbase in the NBA with fans that show up at arenas everywhere. But the national and global perception of a team is not driven as much by its own fanbase as it is by the fickle hand of history which handed the Knicks the perfect scenario to turn themselves into everybody's second favorite team.

Once the media whores saw we were trending during an epic playoff run they started getting behind us, predictably so.

Well done! What I wonder is given the team was primarily not so special during the regular season then after game three vs. ATL we talking about a nice April-June streak that was not a high probability. This chip did not have an MVP or top 5, Nor 1st team all NBA.

Should be interesting how media and fans treat the team going forward.

BlueKnickers @ 7/24/2026 5:25 PM
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
grillco wrote:Why is there so much negativity and outright hatred for the Knicks?

It’s all over socials as if they were the only competitive team and had won the last 10 chips.

They are the most Everyman team to win a ring in forever. Scrappy underdogs, underrated, unwilling to quit…

Anyway, still feeling so much joy related to this run and win.

20+ years of relentless knick bashing by the media.

We sucked for two decades and Knicks fans themselves pushed the narrative that ownership was clueless and more interested in sniffing Don Henley's undergarments

We had a period of morally defective leadership when Zeke was here. Later, we got the pomp and circumstance of bringing in Phil Jackson, the most decorated coach in recent NBA history, who was close to a complete disaster (though he kept our picks). His bloviating BS and apparent disinterest in actually doing his job certainly didn't help the worn storyline of a dysfunctional franchise.

Heap on top of that NYC's traditional role in the heartland as a meme for the end of American civilization during a two decade swing to the right and you had a perfect recipe to hate the Knicks and its native city.

The media are mostly click whores so they took the easiest path and rode the popular narrative about NYC and its dysfunctional basketball team. The mecca of hoops and the world's greatest arena didn't stand a chance without the Knicks becoming a legit contender.

Americans generally prefer heads-down low-drama winners over peacocks, therefore even winning the championship wouldn't have been enough to turn the Knicks into the world's darlings. It was made possible by the unassuming nature of our key players, particularly Brunson and now OG with his tip-in for the ages rise to fame.

Our dudes are quiet and roll up your sleeves types compared to a media groomed personality like Wemby. Beating him was the perfect storm to completely break the old narrative and make us the good guys, far more than if we had beaten OKC for the chip. This was the perfect setup to make the Knicks an American heroes team.

The irony of all of this is the Knicks have the largest HARDCORE fanbase in the NBA with fans that show up at arenas everywhere. But the national and global perception of a team is not driven as much by its own fanbase as it is by the fickle hand of history which handed the Knicks the perfect scenario to turn themselves into everybody's second favorite team.

Once the media whores saw we were trending during an epic playoff run they started getting behind us, predictably so.

Well done! What I wonder is given the team was primarily not so special during the regular season then after game three vs. ATL we talking about a nice April-June streak that was not a high probability. This chip did not have an MVP or top 5, Nor 1st team all NBA.

Should be interesting how media and fans treat the team going forward.

Sweeping two rounds started to shift the narrative about our odds going into the Finals, but even then there were plenty of talking heads favoring the Spurs. We were still regarded as the underdogs.

The ultimate shift was found among the public more so than the media though. The underdog role set up the rest of the narrative transformation that followed.

The humble, business-like demeanor of this Knicks crew plus the resiliency that enabled them to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat several times is what captured the hearts of the public.

Any baggage due to anti-NYC sentiment got overlooked once Wemby unwittingly thrust himself into the role of the villain.

Nalod @ 7/24/2026 11:31 PM
BlueKnickers wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
grillco wrote:Why is there so much negativity and outright hatred for the Knicks?

It’s all over socials as if they were the only competitive team and had won the last 10 chips.

They are the most Everyman team to win a ring in forever. Scrappy underdogs, underrated, unwilling to quit…

Anyway, still feeling so much joy related to this run and win.

20+ years of relentless knick bashing by the media.

We sucked for two decades and Knicks fans themselves pushed the narrative that ownership was clueless and more interested in sniffing Don Henley's undergarments

We had a period of morally defective leadership when Zeke was here. Later, we got the pomp and circumstance of bringing in Phil Jackson, the most decorated coach in recent NBA history, who was close to a complete disaster (though he kept our picks). His bloviating BS and apparent disinterest in actually doing his job certainly didn't help the worn storyline of a dysfunctional franchise.

Heap on top of that NYC's traditional role in the heartland as a meme for the end of American civilization during a two decade swing to the right and you had a perfect recipe to hate the Knicks and its native city.

The media are mostly click whores so they took the easiest path and rode the popular narrative about NYC and its dysfunctional basketball team. The mecca of hoops and the world's greatest arena didn't stand a chance without the Knicks becoming a legit contender.

Americans generally prefer heads-down low-drama winners over peacocks, therefore even winning the championship wouldn't have been enough to turn the Knicks into the world's darlings. It was made possible by the unassuming nature of our key players, particularly Brunson and now OG with his tip-in for the ages rise to fame.

Our dudes are quiet and roll up your sleeves types compared to a media groomed personality like Wemby. Beating him was the perfect storm to completely break the old narrative and make us the good guys, far more than if we had beaten OKC for the chip. This was the perfect setup to make the Knicks an American heroes team.

The irony of all of this is the Knicks have the largest HARDCORE fanbase in the NBA with fans that show up at arenas everywhere. But the national and global perception of a team is not driven as much by its own fanbase as it is by the fickle hand of history which handed the Knicks the perfect scenario to turn themselves into everybody's second favorite team.

Once the media whores saw we were trending during an epic playoff run they started getting behind us, predictably so.

Well done! What I wonder is given the team was primarily not so special during the regular season then after game three vs. ATL we talking about a nice April-June streak that was not a high probability. This chip did not have an MVP or top 5, Nor 1st team all NBA.

Should be interesting how media and fans treat the team going forward.

Sweeping two rounds started to shift the narrative about our odds going into the Finals, but even then there were plenty of talking heads favoring the Spurs. We were still regarded as the underdogs.

The ultimate shift was found among the public more so than the media though. The underdog role set up the rest of the narrative transformation that followed.

The humble, business-like demeanor of this Knicks crew plus the resiliency that enabled them to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat several times is what captured the hearts of the public.

Any baggage due to anti-NYC sentiment got overlooked once Wemby unwittingly thrust himself into the role of the villain.

You speak as you should, a fan of the current champ knicks! I suspect we hate Wemby more than other fans. I get where your coming from and adore the character and resliiance of this team. Very special and add in the 53 year drought. We needed no starphuch after years of failed prophets!

If the 70 sixes do succeed maybe history won't be so kind to the starphuch? Lebron leading a 4th franchise would be a milestone.
I suspect he'll be glorified and Sixers would have won with 3 drafted starters. Not a total starphuch perhaps.

BlueKnickers @ 7/25/2026 1:04 AM
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
Nalod wrote:
BlueKnickers wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
grillco wrote:Why is there so much negativity and outright hatred for the Knicks?

It’s all over socials as if they were the only competitive team and had won the last 10 chips.

They are the most Everyman team to win a ring in forever. Scrappy underdogs, underrated, unwilling to quit…

Anyway, still feeling so much joy related to this run and win.

20+ years of relentless knick bashing by the media.

We sucked for two decades and Knicks fans themselves pushed the narrative that ownership was clueless and more interested in sniffing Don Henley's undergarments

We had a period of morally defective leadership when Zeke was here. Later, we got the pomp and circumstance of bringing in Phil Jackson, the most decorated coach in recent NBA history, who was close to a complete disaster (though he kept our picks). His bloviating BS and apparent disinterest in actually doing his job certainly didn't help the worn storyline of a dysfunctional franchise.

Heap on top of that NYC's traditional role in the heartland as a meme for the end of American civilization during a two decade swing to the right and you had a perfect recipe to hate the Knicks and its native city.

The media are mostly click whores so they took the easiest path and rode the popular narrative about NYC and its dysfunctional basketball team. The mecca of hoops and the world's greatest arena didn't stand a chance without the Knicks becoming a legit contender.

Americans generally prefer heads-down low-drama winners over peacocks, therefore even winning the championship wouldn't have been enough to turn the Knicks into the world's darlings. It was made possible by the unassuming nature of our key players, particularly Brunson and now OG with his tip-in for the ages rise to fame.

Our dudes are quiet and roll up your sleeves types compared to a media groomed personality like Wemby. Beating him was the perfect storm to completely break the old narrative and make us the good guys, far more than if we had beaten OKC for the chip. This was the perfect setup to make the Knicks an American heroes team.

The irony of all of this is the Knicks have the largest HARDCORE fanbase in the NBA with fans that show up at arenas everywhere. But the national and global perception of a team is not driven as much by its own fanbase as it is by the fickle hand of history which handed the Knicks the perfect scenario to turn themselves into everybody's second favorite team.

Once the media whores saw we were trending during an epic playoff run they started getting behind us, predictably so.

Well done! What I wonder is given the team was primarily not so special during the regular season then after game three vs. ATL we talking about a nice April-June streak that was not a high probability. This chip did not have an MVP or top 5, Nor 1st team all NBA.

Should be interesting how media and fans treat the team going forward.

Sweeping two rounds started to shift the narrative about our odds going into the Finals, but even then there were plenty of talking heads favoring the Spurs. We were still regarded as the underdogs.

The ultimate shift was found among the public more so than the media though. The underdog role set up the rest of the narrative transformation that followed.

The humble, business-like demeanor of this Knicks crew plus the resiliency that enabled them to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat several times is what captured the hearts of the public.

Any baggage due to anti-NYC sentiment got overlooked once Wemby unwittingly thrust himself into the role of the villain.

You speak as you should, a fan of the current champ knicks! I suspect we hate Wemby more than other fans. I get where your coming from and adore the character and resliiance of this team. Very special and add in the 53 year drought. We needed no starphuch after years of failed prophets!

If the 70 sixes do succeed maybe history won't be so kind to the starphuch? Lebron leading a 4th franchise would be a milestone.
I suspect he'll be glorified and Sixers would have won with 3 drafted starters. Not a total starphuch perhaps.

I put the odds of the Sixers failing to live up to expectations as much higher than the Knicks repeating

Part of the narrative I was speaking about was the magical transformation mid-first round series where suddenly our squad found its identity. Now that they have that, they can only get stronger and more coherent.

What's the Sixers identity going to be: A Human Centipede slithering inside a Philly Cheese Steak seasoned with illegal hormones and the farts of a disenchanted leprechaun?

I have no confidence that grafting Lebron's Rosy Grier head onto Embiid's Ray Milland shoulder will lead to anything but disappointment.

martin @ 7/25/2026 11:05 AM
Clean @ 7/26/2026 5:25 AM
Knixkik @ 7/26/2026 7:47 PM
Clean wrote:

There’s never been such a wide gap between pro teams in the same city in the history of sports. Knicks vs Nets is literally the difference between seeing a top tier broadway show vs an elementary school play. Brunson didn’t even acknowledge him. King of NY vs someone who isn’t treated like a celeb.

Philc1 @ 7/27/2026 7:27 AM
Knixkik wrote:
Clean wrote:

There’s never been such a wide gap between pro teams in the same city in the history of sports. Knicks vs Nets is literally the difference between seeing a top tier broadway show vs an elementary school play. Brunson didn’t even acknowledge him. King of NY vs someone who isn’t treated like a celeb.

Gap was pretty wide in the early 2000’s but other way around.

martin @ 7/27/2026 1:48 PM
We here, finally. It's now a wrap on that slogan nonesense

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