Knicks · No Mitch, No Huk — now what? (page 7)
martin wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
I’m in this boat
Same. I agree with not going over the second apron with us being able to bring everyone else back plus adding Drummond. Mitch is awesome but there will always be a ton of risk with him.
ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
Moron.
ToddTT wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
Moron.
Get some help
BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
Moron.
Get some help
No picking on Todd. He’s special.
Allanfan20 wrote:Philc1 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Philc1 wrote:Alpha1971 wrote:Drummond could use some Ozempic. If he loses 15lbs he'll be betterThat’s what I’m hoping for. Brown and co. get this guy to a treadmill and start him on a strict diet. He looked slower than Eddy Curry after Chinese Buffet last year
It’s a major problem and it’s going to set him up for getting injured over and over again.
Well that’s one way to make him lose weight. Give him 40+ minutes a night
He’ll need to if we don’t get another big and if Towns is fouling the nights away.
Not a good situation
nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
Yes it was. The cost wasn’t high enough to upgrade from Randle to KAT. It solved both our center problems and fit problems, it just took a little bit to get there. Randle is a floor raiser but not a ceiling raiser. I loved that Jan 2024 team but not convinced that team wins it all. The playoffs are just so different than regular season. Luckily it’s not a concern anymore. We got out of the Julius Randle business just in time (before having to figure out his next contract) and got a far better player with a higher upside. Less than 2 year later we win the title and Randle is salary dumped to the swamp.
Knixkik wrote:Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
Yes it was. The cost wasn’t high enough to upgrade from Randle to KAT. It solved both our center problems and fit problems, it just took a little bit to get there. Randle is a floor raiser but not a ceiling raiser. I loved that Jan 2024 team but not convinced that team wins it all. The playoffs are just so different than regular season. Luckily it’s not a concern anymore. We got out of the Julius Randle business just in time (before having to figure out his next contract) and got a far better player with a higher upside. Less than 2 year later we win the title and Randle is salary dumped to the swamp.
It’s not even disrespectful to Randle to say KAT is a better more talented player which he is. Randle came here and elevated his game with Thibs to become a double double machine who consistently gets teams into the playoffs. But KAT is an extremely talented player. If the refs ever decide to end their blood feud with KAT sky is the limit with him.
Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
2nd apron
newyorknewyork wrote:Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
2nd apron
It's the reason the Knicks got KAT and won a championship and the reason the Celtics got Mitch on a 3 year deal. But there are levels to this cause one aint the other
Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
Math
Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
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The only time Max was ever good was as a young cub reporter in the boxing ring which was his first love and the sport he actually knew something about. I thought he was quite good when he was just a boxing announcer.
Once he got into general sports coverage his opinions became essentially worthless. He's just another low information quip for clicks guy now
Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
The OG trade is up there too. I’m not sure which one was the bigger heist.
BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
I think you're taking Todd too literally/seriously. He's the site clown. And he's good at it. No offense, Todd.
PatCummings wrote:Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
The OG trade is up there too. I’m not sure which one was the bigger heist.
The OG trade is a classic “they don’t know what they have” issue buried behind Siakam. Those are the best moves - when you can utilize an undervalued player better than the existing team
martin wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Philc1 wrote:nycericanguy wrote:Remember we lost Ihart, and we kept thinking how great that team could have been. but would a team with Randle as a main piece really have won it all?We don't make that KAT trade if Ihart had stayed.
Sucked to lose Divo, but Deuce broke out and then we got Shamet and Alvarado and so now we have 3 pieces for the price of 1. And that gave us great depth in case DDV were to get hurt, which he did in MIN.
Sucks to lose Mitch, but we'll recover again. We got his best years and the truth is he's been getting heavier and slower and his FT's were becoming more and more of an issue. And of course only 108 games played the past 3 years and that's with limiting his minutes. he was down to just 13.9 in the playoffs and we still dominated. His peak was probably manhandling the CAVS in the playoffs 3 years ago.
I'll always remember the dunk on Embiid and the big offensive rebound late in G5.
The KAT trade was an epic heist. I still can’t figure out how Rose pulled it off
2nd apron
It's the reason the Knicks got KAT and won a championship and the reason the Celtics got Mitch on a 3 year deal. But there are levels to this cause one aint the other
Yup this is how you take advantage of teams now. Stay flexible and pounce when they need to make second apron decisions.
Panos wrote:BlueKnickers wrote:ToddTT wrote:Yes. The January 2024 Knicks were easily headed for a championship. Until Julius dislocated his shoulder.Calling people you disagree with morons is not the way to handle your business.We just won the championship because KAT finally stopped underachieving, and started playing like iHart.
Anybody who does not think the January 2024 Knicks were fucking phenomenal is a moron. And I am sorry that Julius hurt people with his finger.
I don't think you're a moron if you love a player I despised as a Knick. Everybody has their likes and dislikes.
Randle is a person who quits on their teams and now his last team quit on him and dumped him for nothing.
I've never seen a player behave more disgracefully towards their teammates than Randle and I resented it deeply when he was a Knick.
If you can't handle that, that is your problem. I'm not going to hurl insults at you every time you crash and burn over a Randle comment.
I think you're taking Todd too literally/seriously. He's the site clown. And he's good at it. No offense, Todd.
Clowning around is great, but calling posters morons is not sustainable.
I understand if you love a player sometimes it feels very personal to see them slimed by someone else.
That said, I don't direct any of it towards the poster, just the player.
If they are going to melt down every time it comes up, that's on them. I don't owe them an apology for disliking their pet player.
If a player has mental health issues like Randle does, I can wish him luck in getting treatment so he has a happy life after playing professional ball.
But that does not mean I will ever have a shred of respect for the way he disrepected his coaches, his teammates and the fans at every stop in his career.
Yes, he may be incapable of modulating his moods, but he's still the most selfish player I've been forced to watch for so many years because he was in a Knicks uniform and I still dislike anything about him as a basketball player.
So you could say I don't hate Randle the person for being cursed with bad brain chemistry even if I hated watching him play as a Knick.
If someone can't handle those comments, that's their problem.