Posted by tkf:
that is fair, but I can say the same thing for quite a few rookies this year, all I am saying is that he is being overrated by some who then turn around and use stats to degrade our players and give this guy a pass..
Fair enough TKF, I don't know your talking about but I have a few ideas. I agree though, you can't have it both ways when your going to use stats so I see where your coming from.
some guys only play to put points on a stat sheet, and thei 8 assists to go along with it, some guys do a lot more. And what matters evenmore is the position they do it from. Marbury through-out his career has been the primary ball-handler, majority shot-taker, plays 40 minutes. But in 40 minutes the guy gives you a minimum amount of stls, a minimum amt of rebounds, no blocks, your teams points in transition are generally among the lowest. That is why people blow off his 20 & 8.
Now you look at at guy like Walker. Same scenario, plays alot of minutes, takes alot of shots, but with that you get a big who can take a ball off the glass and push 90 feet, find people with the pass, step out and knock down 3's.
Stats to player impact measures aren't for the obvious, its for the stuff that falls outside the lines. A pf hitting 2 3's a game and getting 5 assists a game, responsible by either pass or filling the lanes for multiple points in transition defies the blueprint.
You have a center like Bogut who can make plays whether its passing or stepping out and setting screens [for a jumpshooting team] for his team out of the high-post, is a force on the boards, especially the offensive one which is a huge plus for a team that scores mostly from the perimeter, blocks shots, knows how to play positional D and bodies people trying to back him down, draws charges (something hard to do on post D uf you're light in the ass) at 20 is going to excite.