Off Topic · White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack Peggy Mcintosh (page 5)

TMS wrote:
again, i don't think playa posted this thread to offend but to bring these issues to light for discussion... i think people are judging his intentions based on reputation rather than on the actual thread.

TMS are you the only one who truly understands my intention on this thread , or do people have this it doesn't effect me lets not talk about it mentality.

My intentions was to give people a chance to see what it's like to live in America and not be given an equal chance when everybody else says it's 2010 and the game field is even.

This was a caucasian women professor making these points not me. I'm under the impression that most have no clue on how minorites feel everyday of their lives in a world that's tough on everybody, but at the same time how minorities have to fight thru the barriers of the color of their skin on many avenues wayyyyy to much even in 2010. This hasn't gone away it's still here.

Just become one for a week and watch what happens to your life and how you are reacted to and how you would function in your world. It would cause many to have more empathy to the plight of hard working minorities.

BRIGGS wrote:

playa2 wrote:BRIGGS THIS IS WHAT i'M TALKING ABOUT

playa--that movie is 30 years old. The *Duke's* of Wall Street have long been supplanted by the Gordon Gecko's of the world--who don't give a fck about any other color than green and their treadmill. Believe me my friend--this is not something I would use to make an example of--it's not 1983 its 2010--wake up--it's all about the individual now--ANYONE can make it in this country--you just have to work hard to get it.

Yea it's an older movie so you would think we understand now, but we haven't man. All i have to say is become a minority for a week and go and do what you normally do and see if you are treated and perceived in a different way. Maybe for some, that would be the only way you could come to understand this discussion and bring some positive feedback.

In July of 1998 Bill Cosby's wife, Camille, writing on the murder of their son described racism as omnipresent and Eternalized in America's Institutions, Media and Myriads entities. "It's certainly easy to get discouraged and Camille Cosby had special reasons for bitterness. But such misguided despair we believe threatens further progress. If racism is truly ubiquitous and permanent, then racial equality is a hopeless project , an unattainable idea.
Gloom becomes a self -fulfilling prophecy.

playa2 wrote:

TMS wrote:
again, i don't think playa posted this thread to offend but to bring these issues to light for discussion... i think people are judging his intentions based on reputation rather than on the actual thread.

TMS are you the only one who truly understands my intention on this thread , or do people have this it doesn't effect me lets not talk about it mentality.

My intentions was to give people a chance to see what it's like to live in America and not be given an equal chance when everybody else says it's 2010 and the game field is even.

This was a caucasian women professor making these points not me. I'm under the impression that most have no clue on how minorites feel everyday of their lives in a world that's tough on everybody, but at the same time how minorities have to fight thru the barriers of the color of their skin on many avenues wayyyyy to much even in 2010. This hasn't gone away it's still here.

Just become one for a week and watch what happens to your life and how you are reacted to and how you would function in your world. It would cause many to have more empathy to the plight of hard working minorities.

i didn't see you interjecting any inflammatory comments of your own in this thread at all... i saw you quote directly from an article that was written by a white woman based on her own life experiences & the final quote at the end of the list raised a legitimate question to people reading the article... others saw you casting an accusing finger but truthfully i didn't get that impression at all... there seems to a clear divide in terms of the way some minorities might view certain topics that isn't really understood by non-minorities (& by that comment i'm not referring to ALL non-minorities & i'm not casting an accusing finger at anyone in particular who may be reading this)... things have certainly progressed a far way in terms of racial issues from where they used to be when we were growing up, but there is still a far way to go before anyone can really honestly say we are all living on the same playing field... & this is not asking for pity, charity or handouts from anyone, it's just telling it like it is.

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:this is the Off Topic forum so any topic you want to talk about can be talked about as long as you're not offending the other posters here... if BRIGGS can post up threads telling people in Mexico to stay on their side of the border without being made to feel like he'll be banned for discussing it, i don't see why playa can't post a thread like this one... racial discussions aren't exactly uncommon on these forums.

again, i don't think playa posted this thread to offend but to bring these issues to light for discussion... i think people are judging his intentions based on reputation rather than on the actual thread.

Well, I guess we just don't agree, then. I think this thread was intentionally made to provoke and annoy people. The 50 points were incredibly stereotypical and the article was completely one-sided and biased, so it's no surprise playa posted it. Playa has a reputation, yes, but he lives up to it. His intentions are obvious. This, again, is why the thread should not have been posted. If you're saying you can post anything in the off topic forum, technically, that's true. However, some etiquette and common courtesy would be nice.

As for BRIGGS thread, he simply said he was against people crossing the border illegally. I don't think BRIGGS posted with the intention of upsetting people and I didn't find his post offensive. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Maybe because you felt the same way as BRIGGS

playa2 wrote:

Solace wrote:

TMS wrote:this is the Off Topic forum so any topic you want to talk about can be talked about as long as you're not offending the other posters here... if BRIGGS can post up threads telling people in Mexico to stay on their side of the border without being made to feel like he'll be banned for discussing it, i don't see why playa can't post a thread like this one... racial discussions aren't exactly uncommon on these forums.

again, i don't think playa posted this thread to offend but to bring these issues to light for discussion... i think people are judging his intentions based on reputation rather than on the actual thread.

Well, I guess we just don't agree, then. I think this thread was intentionally made to provoke and annoy people. The 50 points were incredibly stereotypical and the article was completely one-sided and biased, so it's no surprise playa posted it. Playa has a reputation, yes, but he lives up to it. His intentions are obvious. This, again, is why the thread should not have been posted. If you're saying you can post anything in the off topic forum, technically, that's true. However, some etiquette and common courtesy would be nice.

As for BRIGGS thread, he simply said he was against people crossing the border illegally. I don't think BRIGGS posted with the intention of upsetting people and I didn't find his post offensive. I don't see what that has to do with anything.

Maybe because you felt the same way as BRIGGS

Not 100% in agreement, necessarily; I don't remember all the details of BRIGGS thread anymore. I am against illegal immigration. I have no problem with legal immigration.