Off Topic · Tragic OT: Massive Earthquake in Japan: (page 5)

loweyecue @ 3/25/2011 7:08 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:That girl must have sat next to a couple of loud people who were Asian, in the library and failed her test, and thinks it's their fault. Meanwhile, all she had to do was go to a different part of the library. Her emotions must have been raging if she was dumb enough to post an assinine video like that. Never make decisions based on your emotions. She deserves what she got.

And if people actually get offended by what that broad says, just stop. Save yourself the anger and emotion for something actually important (Anti racism is extremely important for the record) because her opinion has absolutely no value, she clearly isn't worthy of a UCLA education, and the backlash she has caused has been much much stronger than her video. I feel bad for people like her. Ignorance is not bliss and neither is hatred. Those 2 combined, and you might as well be blind and deaf.

Sorry but that is anacceptable. The core problem here is racism and for the longest time people have avoided facing it by imposing a social norm of political correctness. That has doen nothing to fix the problem but has made it OK for people to be racist as long as they don't go out of their way to insult other people openly. Now you are saying that it is somehow acceptable to actaully go out of your way to insult others and people can't be offended by it? What is next on that line of reasoning?

Please explain to me where I said it was acceptable? Please do that to me. I said ignorance is not bliss and I said anti racism is extremely important and I also basically said she's worthy of being ignored. I also said she deserves what she got.You need to think about what you say about someone more carefully before what you do actually say on a public forum dawg.

True, you didn't say it was acceptable. That was the sense I got when I read you asking people to stop feeling offended at something so patently offensive. That was the only conclusion I could draw from it. For what it's worth IMO, if this type of behaviour is allowed to continue it gets worse. So yes I think its very important for people to express their views against it.

loweyecue @ 3/25/2011 7:10 PM
GustavBahler wrote:This isn't over unfortunately. Very sad and very scary.


Japan Quietly Evacuating a Wider Radius From Reactors

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/26/world/...


Japanese officials began quietly encouraging people to evacuate a larger swath of territory around the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant on Friday, a sign that they hold little hope that the crippled facility will soon be brought under control.


Japan: Injured workers exposed to 10,000 times safe radiation

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20110325/tts...

Japan said on Friday that workers who suffered burns while trying to cool a crippled reactor were exposed to radiation levels 10,000 times higher than expected, adding evidence that the crucial containment vessel for nuclear fuel had been ruptured.

That could mean a serious reversal after days of apparently steady progress in containing radiation leaks after a killer earthquake and tsunami tore through the Fukushima complex north of Tokyo two weeks ago.

What I don't get is when they say there is no immediate danger. Does that mean these people can suffer from something 2 years from now? Or does it mean the levels are not high enough to really worry about even if they are exposed to it for a few days?

Allanfan20 @ 3/25/2011 10:14 PM
Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

GustavBahler @ 3/29/2011 5:26 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/29/japan-lost-race-save-nuclear-reactor


Japan may have lost race to save nuclear reactor

Fukushima meltdown fears rise after radioactive core melts through vessel – but 'no danger of Chernobyl-style catastrophe'

The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.

The warning follows an analysis by a leading US expert of radiation levels at the plant. Readings from reactor two at the site have been made public by the Japanese authorities and Tepco, the utility that operates it.

Richard Lahey, who was head of safety research for boiling-water reactors at General Electric when the company installed the units at Fukushima, told the Guardian workers at the site appeared to have "lost the race" to save the reactor, but said there was no danger of a Chernobyl-style catastrophe.

Workers have been pumping water into three reactors at the stricken plant in a desperate bid to keep the fuel rods from melting down, but the fuel is at least partially exposed in all the reactors.

At least part of the molten core, which includes melted fuel rods and zirconium alloy cladding, seemed to have sunk through the steel "lower head" of the pressure vessel around reactor two, Lahey said.

"The indications we have, from the reactor to radiation readings and the materials they are seeing, suggest that the core has melted through the bottom of the pressure vessel in unit two, and at least some of it is down on the floor of the drywell," Lahey said. "I hope I am wrong, but that is certainly what the evidence is pointing towards."

The major concern when molten fuel breaches a containment vessel is that it reacts with the concrete floor of the drywell underneath, releasing radioactive gases into the surrounding area. At Fukushima, the drywell has been flooded with seawater, which will cool any molten fuel that escapes from the reactor and reduce the amount of radioactive gas released.

Lahey said: "It won't come out as one big glob; it'll come out like lava, and that is good because it's easier to cool."

The drywell is surrounded by a secondary steel-and-concrete structure designed to keep radioactive material from escaping into the environment. But an earlier hydrogen explosion at the reactor may have damaged this.

"The reason we are concerned is that they are detecting water outside the containment area that is highly radioactive and it can only have come from the reactor core," Lahey added. "It's not going to be anything like Chernobyl, where it went up with a big fire and steam explosion, but it's not going to be good news for the environment."

The radiation level at a pool of water in the turbine room of reactor two was measured recently at 1,000 millisieverts per hour. At that level, workers could remain in the area for just 15 minutes, under current exposure guidelines.

A less serious core meltdown happened at the Three Mile Island nuclear plant in Pennsylvania in 1979. During that incident, engineers managed to cool the molten fuel before it penetrated the steel pressure vessel. The task is a race against time, because as the fuel melts it forms a blob that becomes increasingly difficult to cool.

In the light of the Fukushima crisis, Lahey said all countries with nuclear power stations should have "Swat teams" of nuclear reactor safety experts on standby to give swift advice to the authorities in times of emergency, with international groups co-ordinated by the International Atomic Energy Authority.

The warning came as the Japanese authorities were being urged to give clearer advice to the public about the safety of food and drinking water contaminated with radioactive substances from Fukushima.

Robert Peter Gale, a US medical researcher who was brought in by Soviet authorities after the Chernobyl disaster, in 1986, has met Japanese cabinet ministers to discuss establishing an independent committee charged with taking radiation data from the site and translating it into clear public health advice.

"What is fundamentally disturbing the public is reports of drinking water one day being above some limit, and then a day or two later it's suddenly safe to drink. People don't know if the first instance was alarmist or whether the second one was untrue," said Gale.

"My recommendation is they should consider establishing a small commission to independently convert the data into comprehensible units of risk for the public so people know what they are dealing with and can take sensible decisions," he added.

loweyecue @ 3/29/2011 9:11 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

Dude no worries, you didn't offend me one bit. If I was the type to get easily offended I wouldn't be rooting for the Knicks, duh!

orangeblobman @ 3/30/2011 10:11 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

So she deserves death threats?

Solace @ 3/30/2011 11:05 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

So she deserves death threats?

Well, no. I think most people are smart enough to realize that reciprocating a wrong with an another wrong is not acceptable either. Some of the responses are as bad as her initial post was, and there's no need for that either. I hope she learns from this and people leave her alone. It looks like she did apologize: http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/03/u....

Allanfan20 @ 3/31/2011 3:47 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

So she deserves death threats?

I was more so talking about her getting kicked out of school and having a bad reputation and being made fun of on youtube, like how Jimmy Wong did. I don't condone death threats and didn't realize this was the case.

orangeblobman @ 3/31/2011 5:34 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Loweycue, my bad for getting defensive, for the record. All I meant though is that chick is just so stupid that she should just be ignored. Obviously she did it on youtube though, so as I implied, or tried to imply: she deserved the backlash for what she did.

I hope I didnt offend you. I am against racism as strongly as anyone and just meant to say she doesnt deserve the attention she is getting.

So she deserves death threats?

I was more so talking about her getting kicked out of school and having a bad reputation and being made fun of on youtube, like how Jimmy Wong did. I don't condone death threats and didn't realize this was the case.

So you think she should be kicked out of school?

Allanfan20 @ 3/31/2011 9:52 PM
Well thats up to ucla but i cant blame them for what they did. What she did made them look bad and it was f`ed up.
orangeblobman @ 3/31/2011 10:55 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:Well thats up to ucla but i cant blame them for what they did. What she did made them look bad and it was f`ed up.

What do you think the reaction would have been like if the races were reversed, if it was an Asian student making fun of a White student?

Allanfan20 @ 4/1/2011 10:53 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:Well thats up to ucla but i cant blame them for what they did. What she did made them look bad and it was f`ed up.

What do you think the reaction would have been like if the races were reversed, if it was an Asian student making fun of a White student?

I think there would have been an even bigger outrage. Why are you pulling this Socratic questioning with me for the record? I just get this tiny feeling you're trying to justify what she did and show that she deserved no punishment.

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