Knicks · Can Harrelson Make A Shot From Any Further Out? (page 1)

Sheesh

Rumble young man rumble.

haayyyaayyooooooaaaoaoa!

The kid is very large human!

Nuttin' but net on that shot too.
He just looks like good dude.

That shot surprised me

Big dude, nice shot. It would be a plus for Jorts to contribute for us like that when called upon.

I liked his effort on D as well.

His jumpshot is way better than Lee's at the same stage, and he plays defense. He actually boxed out on a couple of plays, god knows how long we have gone w/o seeing that from a Knicks player. He needs to shed some weight and hopefully gain a little athleticism.

Big Man

loweyecue - with all due respect, the 275 pounds will come in handy when someone tries to root Harrellson from under the rim is unable to budge him.

... and "athleticism", is much less important than endurance, tenacity and awareness.

This ain't a beauty contest.

I have no issues with his size. He can backup Chandler. But he looks fat and there's no need for that. The size should come from muscle and not from adipose brown tissue. We don't need him to go the Eddy Curry route and be a lazy fat bum.

C'mon Son!

loweyecue - Harrellson is not, nor does he show any hint, that he will be a "lazy fat bum."

When was the last time Eddy Curry drained a 30 foot j with the form of Jerry Lucas?

it's funny to hear MDA or whatever announcer say that the Knicks need another stretch 4 off the bench... Jorts can do that!

That surprised the hell out me. I forgot who Harrelson was and he steps out on the court and nails a 3. Wow.

I think he has a bit of a bum in him in a good way. He may be hardworking and all round good guy, but doesn't strike you as a dude with very high "drive". Gumpy on the otherhand looked like he was ready to eat Deron for breakfast. I am definitely going to like Jorts.

Jorts was fantastic with Kentucky in the NCAAs last year. Really impressive. I got stuck with Kentucky in an office pool and watched all their tournament games. He and Brandon Knight were very good.

I see Jorts as a sort of Mike Doleac/Scott Pollard type for this team. Which is fine off the bench.

Doleac thats a good one. Good defender who can shoot off the bench. He just needs to get rid of that baby fat

Bonn1997 wrote:That shot surprised me

Suprise the hell out of me, I was like WTF, thats exactly what MDA wants and needs in his system.

Amare said he was practicing his 3 point shots rigoursly( took one yesterday) over the summer.Same was said of David Lee before he was traded. When you look at the success Shawn Marion had with the suns, he was hardly the 3 point threat before MDA took over the team. The PF is always on the perimeter in this system, generally wide open..

gunsnewing wrote:Doleac thats a good one. Good defender who can shoot off the bench. He just needs to get rid of that baby fat

Shhhh.. didn't you get Earl's memo?

The Baby Fat Chronicles

(From Draft Express)

"Defensively, Harrellson will always be at a disadvantage athletically, but he does his best to overcome some of his limitations by playing with a great motor and being extremely physical. He stands his ground in the post and makes it difficult for players to establish post position. Once they have the ball, he continues to fight hard and challenge shots and generally shows good instincts. His average length compared to NBA centers will be an issue though, as will his lack of lateral quickness when defending pick-and-rolls and having quicker big men face him up.

While Harrellson will need to continue to perform in the pre-draft process to hear his name called this June, his play in the tournament has solidified him as a player that NBA scouts need to seriously evaluate. Teams are always looking for extra size, and Harrellson's motor, toughness, passing, rebounding ability, and production at the highest level of college basketball will earn him plenty of looks this summer as teams look for extra big men to fill out their roster."

Not every NBA big man is built like Dikembe Mutombo... or Nazr Mohammed for that matter. Jorts is 35 pounds more one of my all time versatile big men, Jack Sikma... and just might fill a similar role, as a mid range scoring threat. Sikma, never known as a physical specimen, would never win any body builders contest, or make the classified page in GQ, but he got the job done.

This ain't a beauty contest.

misterearl wrote:The Baby Fat Chronicles

(From Draft Express)

"Defensively, Harrellson will always be at a disadvantage athletically, but he does his best to overcome some of his limitations by playing with a great motor and being extremely physical. He stands his ground in the post and makes it difficult for players to establish post position. Once they have the ball, he continues to fight hard and challenge shots and generally shows good instincts. His average length compared to NBA centers will be an issue though, as will his lack of lateral quickness when defending pick-and-rolls and having quicker big men face him up.

While Harrellson will need to continue to perform in the pre-draft process to hear his name called this June, his play in the tournament has solidified him as a player that NBA scouts need to seriously evaluate. Teams are always looking for extra size, and Harrellson's motor, toughness, passing, rebounding ability, and production at the highest level of college basketball will earn him plenty of looks this summer as teams look for extra big men to fill out their roster."

Not every NBA big man is built like Dikembe Mutombo... or Nazr Mohammed for that matter. Jorts is 35 pounds more one of my all time versatile big men, Jack Sikma... and just might fill a similar role, as a mid range scoring threat. Sikma, never known as a physical specimen, would never win any body builders contest, or make the classified page in GQ, but he got the job done.

This ain't a beauty contest.

Josh aiming for JQ

hes a true hill billy redneck that had no game and skills.
hes a big boy that worked his way from horrible shape to an athlete, from NCAA to the NBA.
His game includes hustle, rebounds, boxing out, hard fouls, and developing a shot.
he is a BIG under dog, really raw, you can't help but to cheer for.
he has plenty of room to improve as he continues to develop.
As much skills as he lacks, he has made huge strides of development.
While at Kentucky, he went from being a worse Eddy Curry shape, to a biggest loser contender.
While he is raw with Jordan, he doesn't seems intimidated by the peers in the league.
Although he is slow, not athletic, he does the dirty work and uses what he has, very well.
He has to have some good knowledge in basketball IQ, understands and accepts his role, and will look to improve as he continues to develop.
He is a pretty smart player, making his way to the NBA is a great story for a not very talented or gifted player to a pro.
He reminds me of a poor mans, Mehmet Okur, with his bruiser style and shooting range.

While I like the idea of having Jorts and Jordan of our bench and learning from Tyson Chandler, they are both very raw.
What I don't like his that we they are both 2nd round picks, with Fields.
For our future, I don't like the idea of keeping, developing, and risk losing both of them.
With 2nd round picks, its great if you can find a steal. Especially for a developing raw/young player, most of the times, 2 years isn't enough to determine his value.
How much $ are you willing to pay in advance for their potential and continued development?
Will they be distracted from making peanuts *2nd round pick* to being multimillion dollar men, within one year?
Will it stop their hunger and love for the game?
These are just some off the court issues that scouts take in to consideration, rather than just raw talent that most of us see.
A player like Deandre Jordan, as raw as he is even now, and as much as he improved already, and still have much more room to excel.
Certainly, playing vs Griffen and Kaman, at practice, helped him develop, going against a bigger more talented veteran.
He learned how to use his combination of length, speed, and athleticism vs a pretty good player in Kaman.
While Kaman was hurt last year, he was 20pts + 10rbs + 2ass + 2blocks+ for his career.
Well, Clippers so able to see enough of him, to give him match his offer.
Most certainly, they knew Cp3 was going to propel his game as well.
Timing is very important, Blake Griffen, has a lot to do with the success of the Clippers and Jordan.

Well, Jordan and Jorts, aren't near the quality that Deandre Jordan is, we are risking the probability of letting walk out on us.
This is a great year to emphasize the range of $ a decent center can be.
Besides McRoberts, a lot of centers in general, get payed 5m+.
I am not saying to rush and trade either or, but if an package comes with an offer that helps us get better this year and for another year or 2, we have to look in to it.
We are in win now mode, getting a player that can add to our core is important. If we know what we can expect and it fills a hole/need with a quality player, consider it.
If we can't get something in a package with good value, I don't mind trying to possibly of keeping 1 of our 2 projects, 2years when they are URA.
And if they are productive for 2 years as role players for us, letting both walk or sign/trade them is fine too.
We just must realize, what our options are, and keep an open mind.
Of course this is the same reason, I think we have to let Fields go with a package if its presents itself by the deadline this year....

Proof?

"hes a true hill billy redneck that had no game and skills."

Really RonRon?

Where did you read that?