Knicks · Anyone else worried about Amar'e? He looks limited, no explosion... (page 4)

David Lee is a quality player that you add to an already good team. You cannot build around him. The Knicks became relevant the second they replaced Lee with Amar'e.

Now, on a team like Miami, I'd argue that Lee and, say, Brandon Rush/Charles Jenkins/Klay Thompson and a pick would be better than Bosh. But then again, Miami is easily (and unfortuantely) the best team in the NBA

i am not saying David Lee is better than Amare, I am saying I think he would fit the team better.
We have both seen Amare and Lee get eaten up, with Lee much badly. But Lee is in no way a center, which also inflated his stats on the Knicks.
But there is no way possible he can guard a center but lets not 4get he has his own ways of scoring.
Lee needs to be around a legit Center, next to a Dwight Howard, Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan, Roy Hibbert, or Gasol.
His best weapons offensively includes his ability to dribble, finish with both hands, can play from the post or towards the basket, and plays a team concept.
He did us a favor that year at least tried with Walsh, landing us the trade with GS.
I will always wish the best for him, he never complained as a Knick and always got better.

As for needing a 2nd star, its a fascination that people feel its a need to have.
To me, only true "all stars" are players that great 2 way players, which as great scorers that Melo and Amare are, they aren't in the same league as
Lebron, Wade, Dwight, Rose, Westbrook, Durant, Cp3, and Deron because they make their teams and players around them a lot better.
Look at this years, Bucks and last years Denver Nuggets, those are 2 teams that have no true all stars, they aren't in the same class as Melo or Amare.
They have some 2 way players that fit very well with each other. Those are the type of players that we need, to give us versatility, depth, and team work.
While this might not be the formula to win playoff basketball, its a great way to win the season games and build chemistry.
I have to see how Baron Davis is when he comes back, he could be the missing link for Amare, and the pick and roll can open up games for others.

We do not play well as a team, that is our biggest problem, and that is what we are trying to achieve this season.
TD isn't a starting PG, he lets the defense dictate his moves, and as a PG its his job to do the opposite.
Watching Lebron and Wade run there SSOL in Miami, we can not let them run fast breaks for easy points with Wade and Lebron.
This is how we lost points to Boston last game and Miami does a better job than Celtics at that.
Once our defense is set, Tyson Chandler can anchor our defense a lot, but before it, our defense is tough.
One of our biggest problem is our PG doesn't have the ability to attack the basket consistently.
When you attack the basket, good things happen, easy shots open up when defenses are broken down.
This was why I was looking for Iman to be our starting PG with his ability to defend the PG with the advantage of physical size.
I agree he doesn't look like a PG from the preseason games and game vs Celtics, but I wouldn't discount him being able to do it in the future.
We know he works hard and he has the physical tools to do it. Right now, no, he isn't ready.
I wish we could have got a player like Dunleavy. But with the ability to play for his father probably would be greater than playing for the Knicks.
He is a player with great BB IQ, great versatility (can guard 3-4 positions), can spread the floor, play good defense, rebound, score, and do really a little of everything.
The only question with him is he has been injured for the past 2 or 3 years, which is why he wasn't signed for much.
We have to see when Baron Davis comes back and just hold it down till Iman and B Diddy returns.

The guy is pacing himself. No need to come out like gang busters when this is going to be a long tiring 66 game season.

We all know he can explode for 30+ on any night. Plus he keeps the defense honest.

LOL at Avid Lee being a better fit.

The Shot Doctor

RonRon - as a fellow Knicks fan, this unsolicited critique is offered on writing style, alone, so that you can get your point(s) across.

You have some great ideas but they are difficult to follow, and read as incomplete, as you jump quickly from one thought to the next, and then back again. Do you ever read back what you write?

You might consider reading your posts from the standpoint of a blind person coming to it for the first time. What is the single most important point you are making and what evidence do you offer to back it up?

My Jr High School English teacher, Mr McCullogh, did an outstanding job emphasizing "variety of sentence structure" and being self-critical. Effective writing is tough and this is only offered as any coach might offer a subtle correction on a jump shot technique. Not saying The Answer Man has all the answers, but something to consider. This is not about ego, or diss any effort of yours, so please do not take this as an assault. If your goal is to be read - as you do not want people scrolling by because it takes too much work to follow multiple thoughts - you just gotta get out the machete and edit. Just a thought...

Hope this helps you build your readership.

Keep up the good work.

From what I have read and seen so far is Amare is trying to develope his outside game. This gives the slashers room to move and if you have to come out to get Amare he will blow by you.

As far as "saving himself", well, if he has an outside game, that will do that. Mike and Dr. J did it.

File this thread under "what you talking about"

Carmelo is the scorer. Tyson is the screen and role guy. Amare is the glue that is altering his game to fit what the team needs. He's actually very strong in this role and played great against Boston. Somebody has to get out of the paint. Are you suggesting it should be Chandler???? How is he going to contribute in that role?

As for his explosiveness. A little early to judge considering most players are just getting their NBA legs under them. He looked pretty quick against Boston

Bippity10 wrote:File this thread under "what you talking about"

Carmelo is the scorer. Tyson is the screen and role guy. Amare is the glue that is altering his game to fit what the team needs. He's actually very strong in this role and played great against Boston. Somebody has to get out of the paint. Are you suggesting it should be Chandler???? How is he going to contribute in that role?

As for his explosiveness. A little early to judge considering most players are just getting their NBA legs under them. He looked pretty quick against Boston

Yes. And he needs to be quick to boxout and quick to rebound too.

misterearl wrote:The Shot Doctor

RonRon - as a fellow Knicks fan, this unsolicited critique is offered on writing style, alone, so that you can get your point(s) across.

You have some great ideas but they are difficult to follow, and read as incomplete, as you jump quickly from one thought to the next, and then back again. Do you ever read back what you write?

You might consider reading your posts from the standpoint of a blind person coming to it for the first time. What is the single most important point you are making and what evidence do you offer to back it up?

My Jr High School English teacher, Mr McCullogh, did an outstanding job emphasizing "variety of sentence structure" and being self-critical. Effective writing is tough and this is only offered as any coach might offer a subtle correction on a jump shot technique. Not saying The Answer Man has all the answers, but something to consider. This is not about ego, or diss any effort of yours, so please do not take this as an assault. If your goal is to be read - as you do not want people scrolling by because it takes too much work to follow multiple thoughts - you just gotta get out the machete and edit. Just a thought...

Hope this helps you build your readership.

Keep up the good work.

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Amare does look slower than last year. Thing is he is noticeably bigger especially in the upper body. I actually prefer him to be bigger so he can bang down low. My only concern is how the added weight will effect those knees.

AnubisADL wrote:Amare does look slower than last year. Thing is he is noticeably bigger especially in the upper body. I actually prefer him to be bigger so he can bang down low. My only concern is how the added weight will effect those knees.

I don't see this slower guy. STAT still blows by guys when he faces up. I think he's just pacing himself. There's no need for him to go nuts this early. The more good players you have the less each one has to do. Last year he was the MAIN GUY and he was doing everything. STAT's usage rate was thru the roof. Now he doesn't have to do that kind of heavy lifting. Just cuz you add muscle doesn't make you slower. Fat may make you slower, but being in better shape allows you to carry that extra muscle weight easily. Dwight Howard has continued to pack on the muscle and he's not slower!

I think this is a friggin mountain out of a molehill. TWO preseason games and ONE regular season game. A racecar needs to warm up a little before performing at 10,000+ RPMs

It's been 1 game

nixluva wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Amare does look slower than last year. Thing is he is noticeably bigger especially in the upper body. I actually prefer him to be bigger so he can bang down low. My only concern is how the added weight will effect those knees.

I don't see this slower guy. STAT still blows by guys when he faces up. I think he's just pacing himself. There's no need for him to go nuts this early. The more good players you have the less each one has to do. Last year he was the MAIN GUY and he was doing everything. STAT's usage rate was thru the roof. Now he doesn't have to do that kind of heavy lifting. Just cuz you add muscle doesn't make you slower. Fat may make you slower, but being in better shape allows you to carry that extra muscle weight easily. Dwight Howard has continued to pack on the muscle and he's not slower!

No one said he is a snail. The guy does look less explosive though. Like I said the guy looks jacked.

Dwight Howard has muscle MASS but the guy only weighs 265.

"Like I said the guy looks jacked."

AnubisADL - What da hell does that mean? Jacked? C'mon...

The only thing Amar'e needs is more than three NBA games with Tyson Chandler and more than 32 games TOTAL with his running buddy, Carmelo Anthony. 32 games is not a half NBA season.... anyone who knows hoops KNOWS that for a new shiftline to bond on the court might require more than one regular season game. There are Rucker League teams who have been together for more than 32 games.

A lead guard who can deliver the ball to Stoudemire where he likes to operate would not hurt either.

Miami is still learning a premium pace to rum and have fun with, and they have been together a full season. The Knicks are still strangers. That will be the case until February and then it changes again if Baron Davis is ready. The delicate balance shifts again. Trust will require time.

Hopefully, B Dizzle is saving his mental notes on his iPad.

uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

crzymdups wrote:uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

Amare not looking good on O. BUT he's working his ass off on boards and D.

crzymdups wrote:uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

Please stop.

crzymdups wrote:uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

Negative. Guard play is the issue with NYK

Does everyone remember the first few games last season? Stat was up and down. He's fine and will be fine.

babyKnicks wrote:

crzymdups wrote:uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

Please stop.

+ 20

misterearl wrote:

babyKnicks wrote:

crzymdups wrote:uh... anyone watching the knicks can see what i'm talking about. amar'e looks horrible.

Please stop.

+ 20

oh, you're right, amar'e looks fine.

i'm saying this because i'm concerned. and i have seen no evidence this season that amar'e is fine or right or whatever.