A bulging disc does not require surgery, generally just rest. Many people play with bulging discs and experience ZERO pain - it just depends on if the disc is touching a nerve, and more importantly, oddly enough, if the surrounding muscle tissue is tensed due to being in a protection mode. I discovered this out via going to health practitioners here in Germany years ago. He probably had the bulging disc for a while and it just got aggravated. I get the feeling he will be back before you know it.
The special amnesty from the last CBA contract was used on Billups, right?
kip3f wrote:The special amnesty from the last CBA contract was used on Billups, right?
Yes, but people are making too big a deal about it. We would not use it on Stat anyway, because we STILL HAVE TO PAY him his money - it just doesn't count against the cap. Maybe we would use it with only two years left, but he is producing, or was, and this had nothing to do with his knees. A bulging disc is definitely healable.
Right now we need another PF as Jeffries and Stat are out. How about that other Sean Williams cat? Crazy yes, but him and Chandler would be nice on defense. Guess we need some offense though.
mrKnickShot wrote:franco12 wrote:why is everyone making a big deal about insurance?First, it was his knee, not his back that was the concern, and then his eye.
Next, the only one hurt by the inability to insure his contract his Dolan. And he can't raise ticket prices anymore, can he?
Finally, if he were forced to retire, his contract would come off the cap just as any insured contract would.
I can live with his back being hurt - except as far as he should have gotten better treatment and advice in the off season after he hurt it last year.
Well that is not exactly true. He becomes untradable with the contract being uninsured. It is a very big issue.
He only becomes untradeable for the next 2 years, then in his last season he becomes very tradeable with his large expiring contract. At that point in time we still have a team of young to prime core players with Melo, Chandler, Lin, and Shumpert, so it should be easy to repiece the team around them and make another run.
If fluid is leaking its a problem. Lets not be naive, he had this happen last year and the team was guarding his condition.
Back problems as those know can be depressing and he is dealing with his brothers death which will be with him for some time.
10 years ago I had the occurrence of two ruptured discs in my neck. A residual injury from when I broke my neck in college PLAYING BASKETBALL!
I have a great neurosurgeon (not an orthopedist. Those guys ALWAYS want to operate!) who suggested we wait. I was borderline with no clear evidence either way as to operate or not. I choose to wait, but fully aware I could need surgery. It worked.
Amare no doubt will have the best care and options at his finger tips. We are not talking about just any person, we are talking about a 20 million dollar a year employee whose explosive athletic ability is his key asset. Since the true nature of his condition has been not shared with the public, or season ticket holders I doubt we get insight to the real issues.
As others alluded, it takes a long time for the material to dissipate and I suspect last year everything was done non-surgical. A bulge is not big deal and if we all took MRI's we might find many of us have them. Most of them are not problematic. Its when it becomes structurally unstable. My guess is surgery to remove the material but I doubt they fuse as that might inhibit performance.
If he has surgery Im sure it will be conservative but it might not be the cure. The guy seems to recover fast and he is still young. I going to guess he gets shut down and will have a procedure. This is not an exact science here. Don't look to "blame" if it does not pan out in the fans favor. There is now way to know how the body responds. All of these situations are different.
Knixkik wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:franco12 wrote:why is everyone making a big deal about insurance?First, it was his knee, not his back that was the concern, and then his eye.
Next, the only one hurt by the inability to insure his contract his Dolan. And he can't raise ticket prices anymore, can he?
Finally, if he were forced to retire, his contract would come off the cap just as any insured contract would.
I can live with his back being hurt - except as far as he should have gotten better treatment and advice in the off season after he hurt it last year.
Well that is not exactly true. He becomes untradable with the contract being uninsured. It is a very big issue.
He only becomes untradeable for the next 2 years, then in his last season he becomes very tradeable with his large expiring contract. At that point in time we still have a team of young to prime core players with Melo, Chandler, Lin, and Shumpert, so it should be easy to repiece the team around them and make another run.
"It's so crazy it just might work."
Waiting 2 1/2 years just to be able to build a team around Melo, Shumpert, Chandler, and Lin, is the kind of idea that only Dolan could think of.
Waddup with Jared Jefferies? If he's healthy and can play more minutes it should at least help our defense
We should be able to get by since the Chandler is a-ok as PNR man and the hierarchy on offense should be pretty clear.
Some of the ESPN NY guys are tweeting that Amar'e could be back in 2 weeks if he opts not to have surgery yet. If he has surgery he'll be out the rest of the season and post season. It sounds like no matter what he should probably have surgery this summer to correct it, even if he has to miss the start of next season.
If he rests for 2 weeks and has no risk of making it worse, I think he'll play. If there's any risk of making it worse he should just have the surgery now I think.
MSG3 wrote:Some of the ESPN NY guys are tweeting that Amar'e could be back in 2 weeks if he opts not to have surgery yet. If he has surgery he'll be out the rest of the season and post season. It sounds like no matter what he should probably have surgery this summer to correct it, even if he has to miss the start of next season.If he rests for 2 weeks and has no risk of making it worse, I think he'll play. If there's any risk of making it worse he should just have the surgery now I think.
Exactly- there's no point in taking any risk that he may worsen it. Lets be honest, if he does come back for the playoffs, he's going to be playing at a low level- either like he did in the playoffs last year, or like he played this season before he got things going in the past few weeks. Does that STAT really benefit the team? I wish they'd just do what's best for him long term, instead of jeopardizing that just to rush him back this year (the standard Knick policy!)
