crzymdups wrote:BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
Nah. everyone needs to FREAK OUT!!!
now is the time to freak out. call the garden and cancel your season tickets.
by 11:59pm tuesday it will be too late. it will be over.
Does anyone on this site actually have season tickets? The only time I've been to Knick games was when they were at the absolute nadir of existence and people were desperate to give their tickets way. I can't imagine actually paying to buy a ticket to watch the Knicks.
BasketballJones wrote:crzymdups wrote:BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
Nah. everyone needs to FREAK OUT!!!
now is the time to freak out. call the garden and cancel your season tickets.
by 11:59pm tuesday it will be too late. it will be over.
Does anyone on this site actually have season tickets? The only time I've been to Knick games was when they were at the absolute nadir of existence and people were desperate to give their tickets way. I can't imagine actually paying to buy a ticket to watch the Knicks.
HAHA - I guess if I was dumb enough to buy season tickets I would be freakin pissed too 
mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
No different than Steinbrenner in the 80's.
BasketballJones wrote:crzymdups wrote:BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
Nah. everyone needs to FREAK OUT!!!
now is the time to freak out. call the garden and cancel your season tickets.
by 11:59pm tuesday it will be too late. it will be over.
Does anyone on this site actually have season tickets? The only time I've been to Knick games was when they were at the absolute nadir of existence and people were desperate to give their tickets way. I can't imagine actually paying to buy a ticket to watch the Knicks.
Not a season ticket holder but I've been to plenty of games over the years.
First game should have been an omen: a 40 point loss to the Mavericks in which Bruno Sundov got his name chanted when he scored in the 4th and then proceeded to raise his hands in the air in an effort to make the cheers for him louder.
I went to a few more after that, including the season opener against the Nuggets of Isiah's final year with the team (we won the game, it was the debut of Curry and Zach tandem).
I didn't get to go to a game at all this past season. I'm not sure if I will without Lin. That would be a slap in the face to the fans.
Its pretty simple Lin is a valuable commodity--what he is worth in year 3 has no bearing on business today either as a player or in the future as a tradeable asset. If another team feels his value is that high--then let them pay us when he can be traded. How can we afford to let a 24 year old kid like that leave anyway--this is NOT a young club--we need some young legs--we are really being stupid.
BasketballJones wrote:crzymdups wrote:BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
Nah. everyone needs to FREAK OUT!!!
now is the time to freak out. call the garden and cancel your season tickets.
by 11:59pm tuesday it will be too late. it will be over.
Does anyone on this site actually have season tickets? The only time I've been to Knick games was when they were at the absolute nadir of existence and people were desperate to give their tickets way. I can't imagine actually paying to buy a ticket to watch the Knicks.
Dolan will make sure you will never want to.
He does not want real bbal fans to take the seats of tourists and corporate kickbeckers.
Real fans are unnoing just by the fact they understand the game and Jimmy is not.
BasketballJones wrote:crzymdups wrote:BasketballJones wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
Nah. everyone needs to FREAK OUT!!!
now is the time to freak out. call the garden and cancel your season tickets.
by 11:59pm tuesday it will be too late. it will be over.
Does anyone on this site actually have season tickets? The only time I've been to Knick games was when they were at the absolute nadir of existence and people were desperate to give their tickets way. I can't imagine actually paying to buy a ticket to watch the Knicks.
I don't have full season tickets but I've bought a partial plan each of the last two seasons. Honestly, even ignoring this mess with Lin I don't know that I'll be picking up another plan this season since there's going to be another price increase.
mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:His first two years are CAP friendly--affordable and he could easily play his way into a higher yielding contract than 5mm. While year 3 is high for production today---will it be high in 3 years? And can you use that 15mm $ contract when we have NO cap room in a S+T if needed. Could we simply sign Lin and then trade him during the year for assets--a team was willing to give him 8mm. There is obvious bad blood between Carmelo and quite possibly Dolan against Lin---remember Dolan has more money than God--Lin isnt going to change his life---Dolan is all about control. Its a rising star that had taken attention away from Melo and maybe even Dolan himself. But its not good business--no team can say with a certainty that year 3 our contract structure will look like this. Even Amare can be traded 3 years from now--you do base a signing on year 3 lets let cool hands prevail and bring Lin back--if Houston really wants him---two first round picks when they are able to do a deal.
Perfectly stated. Year 3 - he becomes a very tradeable commodity
I've said this before about yr 3 and Amare will be tradeable if you think Lin is not worth $14.9mil
mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
I'm holding out hope too. But come tuesday and the Knicks don't match my interest level drops astronomically
loweyecue wrote:I think people are are way overrating our defense because we acquired a bunch of 39-40 year olds. Without Lin our offense will be the same as last year, Bibby-Baron dumped the ball to Melo and so will Felton. We won't have a consistent third scoring option assuming Amare can even be the second anymore. Most good defenses will completely stall our offense and then they will outrun and outscore us. We are in for a long years of second round sucktitude.
ha I said the same thing in another thread. Without Lin we lose our 3rd option on offense assuming Amare can even get back to being a 2nd option
mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
No different than Steinbrenner in the 80's.
except that the Yankees turned it around in the 90s, the next decade. We are looking at possibly contending in 2032. 33yrs after 1999
crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Mind if I use that for my sig... ??
gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
No different than Steinbrenner in the 80's.
except that the Yankees turned it around in the 90s, the next decade. We are looking at possibly contending in 2032. 33yrs after 1999
Bear in mind, they only turned it around after Steinbrenner was suspended from baseball for three years.
gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
No different than Steinbrenner in the 80's.
except that the Yankees turned it around in the 90s, the next decade. We are looking at possibly contending in 2032. 33yrs after 1999
Nope. I think the knicks gave away the 2032 first rounder in the Melo trade so we might have to wait a bit more.
VCoug wrote:gunsnewing wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:BRIGGS wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:crzymdups wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
dude, every report is saying the knicks won't match. and they signed kidd, traded for felton and signed prigioni. they have 3 PGs. they aren't matching. it's over.
stupidity, egos and insecurity rule again. and make a mockery of the fact that we bothered to care.
Maybe ...
I guess I just don't feel it or buy the talking idiot bobble heads.
I think its a smoke screen and bruised ego's.
Dolan loves money and he will not let this opportunity slip away. He will come around - I HOPE
Dolan has more money than God--he is about ego
Trust me! Having lots of money just makes you want to have more money.
if you're an @$$hole like dolan, it also means you want everyone to treat you like you're something special. to dolan's warped mind, Lin didn't do that when he went and got more money from the rockets. so lin is dead to dolan.
remember james dolan. he's the guy who traded ewing, sprewell, camby, gallo, every lottery pick he ever had and let jeremy lin walk.
james dolan is the reason this team sucks and no one respects it. and yet somehow he always convinces himself it's the right move to trade the players who don't respect him.
he is the reason this team will never be good. he's never selling. why do we put up with this.
No different than Steinbrenner in the 80's.
except that the Yankees turned it around in the 90s, the next decade. We are looking at possibly contending in 2032. 33yrs after 1999
Bear in mind, they only turned it around after Steinbrenner was suspended from baseball for three years.
True - it was stick michael
WHere is Howie Spira when you need him?
if the knicks let Lin go it is one of the worst decisions i have seen in sports in 20+ years. it is the equivalent of cutting derek jeter after his rookie season because he looked at steinbrenner funny. lin reminds me of jeter. knows how to win. people will point to metrics and certain stats to make him look bad, but the kid always wins. that's what sports are about. people said jeter couldn't defend at shortstop, made too many errors, etc.
letting lin go would be horrendous.
mrKnickShot wrote:I MIGHT BE IN THE MINORITY BUT LIN IS GOING NOWHERE everyone needs to calm down
How do you know Lin isn't going anywhere? Melo's moronic ass opened up his mouth about the ridiculous offer. What kind of a teammate is he? A bunch of overpaid cry babies are weighing in. Who gives a crap about the money, we need Lin?
I think the Lin not being matched thing is CLEARLY personal. What Briggs said I have said here and there. I mean it's pretty clear Lin would at the very least be an asset to trade later if need be (before the tax implications kick in). We could trade Stat the last year of the contract more than likely as well. This just has written "personal" all over it. Omar Asik has the same deal for 3pts and 5rpg and he is 26. No big deal there. Seems like the media and half the fans are buying into Dolans story here.
I won't be getting league pass without Lin and will go back to being the occasional fan without Lin around. He was the reason I really go into things. I think a lot of people will really be fed up with this decision and start watching games elsewhere. Being a fan means expressing your opinion and not blindly following a team just like being a citizen means asking questions and not just taking answers from the man.
I emailed MSG and recommend others to do the same. If the effort on the forums went into contacting MSG and such, resigning Lin would be a done deal.
earthmansurfer wrote:I think the Lin not being matched thing is CLEARLY personal.
Yep, that's the problem now- we all know what Dolan is like when he gets into this mindset. Maybe Grunwalds attempts to avoid recieving the offer were a way of buying time for Dolan to calm down.
The problem now is if Lin returned, we're going to have chemistry issues. Felton will be moody that he's not starting, Lin will be bitter towards the Knicks over whats gone on the past few days, the organisation and Dolan will be bitter towards Lin, Lin will be p***ed off with Melo, JR will be p***ed off with Lin (re: his comments about his contract). We're in a mess now. Unless we plan to play Kidd at SG, we should nevber have traded for Felton if we were going to keep Lin.
Putting emotion aside, I suppose even if we signed Lin and he was exposed as being mediocre at best, then we could always do the stretch provision in the third year if we were worried about the tax. Would he be tradeable? Well, at the deadline he would have about $7mil left on his expiring contract, we coud pay $3mil in cash, so it would be just up to an under the cap team to take on $4mil- that's if he stunk.
Also although they have three year deals, I don't see Kidd and Camby making it that long- think they're one or two years at most. So thats $7mil off the salary figures.
I don't know, a lot of damage has been done now so either way we're going to suffer.
earthmansurfer wrote:I think the Lin not being matched thing is CLEARLY personal. What Briggs said I have said here and there. I mean it's pretty clear Lin would at the very least be an asset to trade later if need be (before the tax implications kick in). We could trade Stat the last year of the contract more than likely as well. This just has written "personal" all over it. Omar Asik has the same deal for 3pts and 5rpg and he is 26. No big deal there. Seems like the media and half the fans are buying into Dolans story here.I won't be getting league pass without Lin and will go back to being the occasional fan without Lin around. He was the reason I really go into things. I think a lot of people will really be fed up with this decision and start watching games elsewhere. Being a fan means expressing your opinion and not blindly following a team just like being a citizen means asking questions and not just taking answers from the man.
I emailed MSG and recommend others to do the same. If the effort on the forums went into contacting MSG and such, resigning Lin would be a done deal.
good post man agree with everything!
