Knicks · Lin from a basketball perspective..... (page 4)

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Solace wrote:This nonsensical theory that all stats under MDA must be discounted is well.. nonsense. Do stats get inflated a bit under MDA? Sure. That doesn't mean they count for nothing. As for the "I didn't include Felton's stats under MDA", that's misleading because Felton didn't play for MDA last season and all of Lin's stats that were shown were last season. Anyway, Felton is not the same player he was two years ago. I liked Felton as a backup instead of Kidd. As a starter over Lin, I think you have to be joking if you prefer him.

I never said that Lin's numbers don't count for anything under MDA. What I did say that since Woodson is now the coach basing Lin's value on the numbers he put up under MDA doesn't make sense. Felton put up career highs under MDA and even with an off year last year, his numbers were pretty close to his career averages.

Felton is the better PG right now and I do prefer the best PG to run the show.

I don't see how you discount MDA's numbers. If the Lakers switch coaches mid-season, do you discount Kobe's numbers? Nope. You don't. It's nonsense. Take his numbers for the season; selectively removing most of the games where he played well isn't exactly unbiased.

Anyway, Felton is the better PG right now is ridiculous. You are in a vast minority of people with that point of view, for good reason. Every analysis I've seen online has shown that Lin was A LOT better than Felton last season. Felton wasn't even a top 20 PG last season.

Judging Felton from just last season is not biased?

What is biased about it? It's a full season vs. a full season. Not selecting random games for one player and not the other. Anyway, Felton was overweight all season and had a very poor season. If he comes into camp in shape, he can be better than he was last year. I've already stated this before. But I'm not counting on it.

Your not betting on it? He is already in playing shape btw.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Solace wrote:This nonsensical theory that all stats under MDA must be discounted is well.. nonsense. Do stats get inflated a bit under MDA? Sure. That doesn't mean they count for nothing. As for the "I didn't include Felton's stats under MDA", that's misleading because Felton didn't play for MDA last season and all of Lin's stats that were shown were last season. Anyway, Felton is not the same player he was two years ago. I liked Felton as a backup instead of Kidd. As a starter over Lin, I think you have to be joking if you prefer him.

I never said that Lin's numbers don't count for anything under MDA. What I did say that since Woodson is now the coach basing Lin's value on the numbers he put up under MDA doesn't make sense. Felton put up career highs under MDA and even with an off year last year, his numbers were pretty close to his career averages.

Felton is the better PG right now and I do prefer the best PG to run the show.

I don't see how you discount MDA's numbers. If the Lakers switch coaches mid-season, do you discount Kobe's numbers? Nope. You don't. It's nonsense. Take his numbers for the season; selectively removing most of the games where he played well isn't exactly unbiased.

Anyway, Felton is the better PG right now is ridiculous. You are in a vast minority of people with that point of view, for good reason. Every analysis I've seen online has shown that Lin was A LOT better than Felton last season. Felton wasn't even a top 20 PG last season.

Judging Felton from just last season is not biased?

What is biased about it? It's a full season vs. a full season. Not selecting random games for one player and not the other. Anyway, Felton was overweight all season and had a very poor season. If he comes into camp in shape, he can be better than he was last year. I've already stated this before. But I'm not counting on it.

Your not betting on it? He is already in playing shape btw.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Solace wrote:This nonsensical theory that all stats under MDA must be discounted is well.. nonsense. Do stats get inflated a bit under MDA? Sure. That doesn't mean they count for nothing. As for the "I didn't include Felton's stats under MDA", that's misleading because Felton didn't play for MDA last season and all of Lin's stats that were shown were last season. Anyway, Felton is not the same player he was two years ago. I liked Felton as a backup instead of Kidd. As a starter over Lin, I think you have to be joking if you prefer him.

I never said that Lin's numbers don't count for anything under MDA. What I did say that since Woodson is now the coach basing Lin's value on the numbers he put up under MDA doesn't make sense. Felton put up career highs under MDA and even with an off year last year, his numbers were pretty close to his career averages.

Felton is the better PG right now and I do prefer the best PG to run the show.

I don't see how you discount MDA's numbers. If the Lakers switch coaches mid-season, do you discount Kobe's numbers? Nope. You don't. It's nonsense. Take his numbers for the season; selectively removing most of the games where he played well isn't exactly unbiased.

Anyway, Felton is the better PG right now is ridiculous. You are in a vast minority of people with that point of view, for good reason. Every analysis I've seen online has shown that Lin was A LOT better than Felton last season. Felton wasn't even a top 20 PG last season.

Judging Felton from just last season is not biased?

What is biased about it? It's a full season vs. a full season. Not selecting random games for one player and not the other. Anyway, Felton was overweight all season and had a very poor season. If he comes into camp in shape, he can be better than he was last year. I've already stated this before. But I'm not counting on it.

Your not betting on it? He is already in playing shape btw.

LOL!

LOL good try Bonn!

He looks good and fit now

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/2012/07/...

ChuckBuck wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Solace wrote:This nonsensical theory that all stats under MDA must be discounted is well.. nonsense. Do stats get inflated a bit under MDA? Sure. That doesn't mean they count for nothing. As for the "I didn't include Felton's stats under MDA", that's misleading because Felton didn't play for MDA last season and all of Lin's stats that were shown were last season. Anyway, Felton is not the same player he was two years ago. I liked Felton as a backup instead of Kidd. As a starter over Lin, I think you have to be joking if you prefer him.

I never said that Lin's numbers don't count for anything under MDA. What I did say that since Woodson is now the coach basing Lin's value on the numbers he put up under MDA doesn't make sense. Felton put up career highs under MDA and even with an off year last year, his numbers were pretty close to his career averages.

Felton is the better PG right now and I do prefer the best PG to run the show.

I don't see how you discount MDA's numbers. If the Lakers switch coaches mid-season, do you discount Kobe's numbers? Nope. You don't. It's nonsense. Take his numbers for the season; selectively removing most of the games where he played well isn't exactly unbiased.

Anyway, Felton is the better PG right now is ridiculous. You are in a vast minority of people with that point of view, for good reason. Every analysis I've seen online has shown that Lin was A LOT better than Felton last season. Felton wasn't even a top 20 PG last season.

Judging Felton from just last season is not biased?

What is biased about it? It's a full season vs. a full season. Not selecting random games for one player and not the other. Anyway, Felton was overweight all season and had a very poor season. If he comes into camp in shape, he can be better than he was last year. I've already stated this before. But I'm not counting on it.

Your not betting on it? He is already in playing shape btw.

LOL!

LOL good try Bonn!

He looks good and fit now

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/2012/07/...

He also blamed last year on him being fat and said that he plans on coming in this year in great shape and is already and playing weight.

Solace wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Solace wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

Solace wrote:This nonsensical theory that all stats under MDA must be discounted is well.. nonsense. Do stats get inflated a bit under MDA? Sure. That doesn't mean they count for nothing. As for the "I didn't include Felton's stats under MDA", that's misleading because Felton didn't play for MDA last season and all of Lin's stats that were shown were last season. Anyway, Felton is not the same player he was two years ago. I liked Felton as a backup instead of Kidd. As a starter over Lin, I think you have to be joking if you prefer him.

I never said that Lin's numbers don't count for anything under MDA. What I did say that since Woodson is now the coach basing Lin's value on the numbers he put up under MDA doesn't make sense. Felton put up career highs under MDA and even with an off year last year, his numbers were pretty close to his career averages.

Felton is the better PG right now and I do prefer the best PG to run the show.

I don't see how you discount MDA's numbers. If the Lakers switch coaches mid-season, do you discount Kobe's numbers? Nope. You don't. It's nonsense. Take his numbers for the season; selectively removing most of the games where he played well isn't exactly unbiased.

Anyway, Felton is the better PG right now is ridiculous. You are in a vast minority of people with that point of view, for good reason. Every analysis I've seen online has shown that Lin was A LOT better than Felton last season. Felton wasn't even a top 20 PG last season.

Judging Felton from just last season is not biased?

What is biased about it? It's a full season vs. a full season. Not selecting random games for one player and not the other. Anyway, Felton was overweight all season and had a very poor season. If he comes into camp in shape, he can be better than he was last year. I've already stated this before. But I'm not counting on it.

Full season? Lin played a total of 35 games and started 25. Felton played in 60 games and started 56. More like Felton full season vs Lin hald season but that's not biased.

Felton is already in shape and will be much better than last year.

The Miami Heat stole Lin's lunch money.

misterearl wrote:Pablo Prigioni had 8 points on 2-4 shooting (two threes), six assists, five rebounds, a steal, and just two turnovers in 33 minutes against an All Star NBA team.

The Miami Heat stole Lin's lunch money.

That's for sure, Pablo will not be intimidated by pretty much anything he sees. Slow, but cerebral, always looking for the right passing angles.

ChuckBuck wrote:That's for sure, Pablo will not be intimidated by pretty much anything he sees. Slow, but cerebral, always looking for the right passing angles.

February 23 against Miami, in 34 minutes, Lin was 1-11 (0-2 from three) from the field with 8 turnovers and three assists.

Pablo Prigioni, on the other hand, had 8 points on 2-4 shooting (two threes), six assists, five rebounds, a steal, and just two turnovers in 33 minutes against a hand-picked NBA All Star team.

From a basketball perspective, of course.