Knicks · The game is 90% Mental (page 3)
JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this one
fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this one
Those wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:I never said they did. I was talking about this teamIrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:they never got a chance! Thats my biggest knock on the Melo trade. Never even got to see that group in the playoffs. That team was the 3rd or 4th youngest team in the league. Im not going to pretend to know they would have advanced, but it would have been nice to ride that out and see where we were.IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
Now you kinda know where we are. Knicks are really good. Does this team beat the Bulls when Rose comes back? The Heat? Even the Nets? I made a thread acknowledging the great amount of talent on this roster, but its damn old. What happens when Kidd has back spasms in round vs the Bucks or god forbid the Bulls?
We were building something, and the results were very impressive early on. MDA finally got a PG the results were there. It was a good young team. Now its a good old team.
fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:they never got a chance! Thats my biggest knock on the Melo trade. Never even got to see that group in the playoffs. That team was the 3rd or 4th youngest team in the league. Im not going to pretend to know they would have advanced, but it would have been nice to ride that out and see where we were.IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
Now you kinda know where we are. Knicks are really good. Does this team beat the Bulls when Rose comes back? The Heat? Even the Nets? I made a thread acknowledging the great amount of talent on this roster, but its damn old. What happens when Kidd has back spasms in round vs the Bucks or god forbid the Bulls?
We were building something, and the results were very impressive early on. MDA finally got a PG the results were there. It was a good young team. Now its a good old team.
32-50
29-53
42-40
18-24
Those were our records during the Mike D'antoni era. 4 seasons is PLENTY of chances. What makes you think he even deserved to have players fit his style if he couldn't even get guys to play .500 basketball in 3 out of 4 seasons?
And based on these records, I wasn't too confident about any one of these 4 teams beating any playoff opponenet, when things only get tougher, especially for younger players.
Were those teams going to beat the Bulls with a healthy Rose? The Heat? Even the Nets?
No.
JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:they never got a chance! Thats my biggest knock on the Melo trade. Never even got to see that group in the playoffs. That team was the 3rd or 4th youngest team in the league. Im not going to pretend to know they would have advanced, but it would have been nice to ride that out and see where we were.IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
Now you kinda know where we are. Knicks are really good. Does this team beat the Bulls when Rose comes back? The Heat? Even the Nets? I made a thread acknowledging the great amount of talent on this roster, but its damn old. What happens when Kidd has back spasms in round vs the Bucks or god forbid the Bulls?
We were building something, and the results were very impressive early on. MDA finally got a PG the results were there. It was a good young team. Now its a good old team.
32-50
29-53
42-40
18-24Those were our records during the Mike D'antoni era. 4 seasons is PLENTY of chances. What makes you think he even deserved to have players fit his style if he couldn't even get guys to play .500 basketball in 3 out of 4 seasons?
And based on these records, I wasn't too confident about any one of these 4 teams beating any playoff opponenet, when things only get tougher, especially for younger players.
Were those teams going to beat the Bulls with a healthy Rose? The Heat? Even the Nets?
No.
First of all let leave out MDA's 'teams' because he never had any. Unless of course you want to suggest that the reason the Knicks didnt win more featuring Duhon at PG with such legendary scorers to pass to like Al Harrington and my favorite David Lee was because of MDA's poor coaching. He had sh!t players the whole time he was here with a rotatiing roster. The one good roster he had the Knicks were playing very very well up until the trade.
secondly I never said THAT team was beating the Heat or even getting out of round one, but it was the 4th youngest team in the league, we had draft picks and we had about $15mm in cap space to spend in the offseason. We were building something good (in my eyes).
Now we are trying to put old players around a flawed star and hoping like hell it yields... what? A title? Im quite sure if we get into the 2nd round your gonna see another "all hair king James" thread. Is that was Knick fans want after ten losing years?
Unless you are in camp Melo, believe he's an MVP and an elite player ready to lead a team to a title. I havent seen anything in his career to believe he's that caliber player and I hope this year Im proved wrong. I really do...
tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:another great example of where the game is won? Baskets made. Sheed shoots 2-11. Even Einstien would be hard pressed to use brainpower to overcome such a crappy shooting performance.This is an old old old team. Glad we got off to a good start but are we competing for a title? Unless the player we need to push us to elite are named Amare and Iman this team is hosed.
Of course if the Knicks dont win we can always read the "Im proud of this team" thread to warm up some good feelings.
the pointing to the head thing is just silly.... just play smart.. people will notice... the sad thing is that they will point to their head, even after not making a smart play.. a smart play for these guys is the ball going in the hoop... no matter how it got there and at what expense.... sometimes guys just don't get it fish.. they just don't....
The pointing to the head is reminiscent of these clowns
or this clown
fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:they never got a chance! Thats my biggest knock on the Melo trade. Never even got to see that group in the playoffs. That team was the 3rd or 4th youngest team in the league. Im not going to pretend to know they would have advanced, but it would have been nice to ride that out and see where we were.IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
Now you kinda know where we are. Knicks are really good. Does this team beat the Bulls when Rose comes back? The Heat? Even the Nets? I made a thread acknowledging the great amount of talent on this roster, but its damn old. What happens when Kidd has back spasms in round vs the Bucks or god forbid the Bulls?
We were building something, and the results were very impressive early on. MDA finally got a PG the results were there. It was a good young team. Now its a good old team.
32-50
29-53
42-40
18-24Those were our records during the Mike D'antoni era. 4 seasons is PLENTY of chances. What makes you think he even deserved to have players fit his style if he couldn't even get guys to play .500 basketball in 3 out of 4 seasons?
And based on these records, I wasn't too confident about any one of these 4 teams beating any playoff opponenet, when things only get tougher, especially for younger players.
Were those teams going to beat the Bulls with a healthy Rose? The Heat? Even the Nets?
No.
First of all let leave out MDA's 'teams' because he never had any. Unless of course you want to suggest that the reason the Knicks didnt win more featuring Duhon at PG with such legendary scorers to pass to like Al Harrington and my favorite David Lee was because of MDA's poor coaching. He had sh!t players the whole time he was here with a rotatiing roster. The one good roster he had the Knicks were playing very very well up until the trade.secondly I never said THAT team was beating the Heat or even getting out of round one, but it was the 4th youngest team in the league, we had draft picks and we had about $15mm in cap space to spend in the offseason. We were building something good (in my eyes).
Now we are trying to put old players around a flawed star and hoping like hell it yields... what? A title? Im quite sure if we get into the 2nd round your gonna see another "all hair king James" thread. Is that was Knick fans want after ten losing years?
Unless you are in camp Melo, believe he's an MVP and an elite player ready to lead a team to a title. I havent seen anything in his career to believe he's that caliber player and I hope this year Im proved wrong. I really do...
in my eyes as well, lets not forget all of the draft picks we gave up in that trade as well.. I know people forget about those, even the second round pick, but they have value.. case in point, that kid that came in here from the rockets.. parsons, that kicked our rear ends... yea, he was a second round pick... it is about maximizing your assets, picks,players, cap space.. etc.. we have done a poor job of that and the trade just highlights that very fact...
3G4G wrote:tkf wrote:fishmike wrote:another great example of where the game is won? Baskets made. Sheed shoots 2-11. Even Einstien would be hard pressed to use brainpower to overcome such a crappy shooting performance.This is an old old old team. Glad we got off to a good start but are we competing for a title? Unless the player we need to push us to elite are named Amare and Iman this team is hosed.
Of course if the Knicks dont win we can always read the "Im proud of this team" thread to warm up some good feelings.
the pointing to the head thing is just silly.... just play smart.. people will notice... the sad thing is that they will point to their head, even after not making a smart play.. a smart play for these guys is the ball going in the hoop... no matter how it got there and at what expense.... sometimes guys just don't get it fish.. they just don't....
The pointing to the head is reminiscent of these clowns
or this clown
hahaha..
JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:they never got a chance! Thats my biggest knock on the Melo trade. Never even got to see that group in the playoffs. That team was the 3rd or 4th youngest team in the league. Im not going to pretend to know they would have advanced, but it would have been nice to ride that out and see where we were.IrishKnickFan wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:Look right now this team hasnt proven anything yet. the 6-0 start was great but lately this team looks very average hopefully they get it togetherfishmike wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:fishmike wrote:ramtour420 wrote:fishmike wrote:Im sure the answer man will calm any fears and ensure Prigosanity or some such is right around the corner. Or maybe its just more Melo dramaFishmike is definitely a part of the "Somber Six"
well if my choice of groups is the "somber six" vs. "I jerk off to everything MElo does" Im gonna go with the 6.Did you not notice I said he had a great game?
After ten years of having any enthusiasm for this team result in total dismay and depression Ive learned to curb my enthusiasm and just call what I see.
My opinion is the same. 50 win team, too old and too predictable to compete for a title, but might make it out of the first round. Until I see differently I will let you know. I enjoyed the game last night. Very spirited.
I save my enthusiasm for the NY Giants. The Knicks have earned somber.
What was your wins prediction under Dantoni, Gallo, Wilson, and Mosgov?
Mid 30s or high 30s? Because 50 under Melo and Woodson sounds pretty good.
That team also had Amare and I dont remember, but I believe I said 45-48 wins. Considering they were 21-9 over a 30 game stretch after that bad, had beaten Spurs, OKC, Melo's Nuggets, Bulls twice, DAllas and were playing like .560 ball I was pretty much right on with that one. Of course that team was nothing compared to this oneThose wins were nice, sure. But they were just regular season wins. Did you honestly think they would've beat a top tier team in the playoffs with that young (and apparently not that good) and inexperienced roster?
If you were to ask me if this current team can hang with anyone in the playoffs, I'd say yes.
Right, but the old team didn't prove much either.
Now you kinda know where we are. Knicks are really good. Does this team beat the Bulls when Rose comes back? The Heat? Even the Nets? I made a thread acknowledging the great amount of talent on this roster, but its damn old. What happens when Kidd has back spasms in round vs the Bucks or god forbid the Bulls?
We were building something, and the results were very impressive early on. MDA finally got a PG the results were there. It was a good young team. Now its a good old team.
32-50
29-53
42-40
18-24Those were our records during the Mike D'antoni era. 4 seasons is PLENTY of chances. What makes you think he even deserved to have players fit his style if he couldn't even get guys to play .500 basketball in 3 out of 4 seasons?
And based on these records, I wasn't too confident about any one of these 4 teams beating any playoff opponenet, when things only get tougher, especially for younger players.
Were those teams going to beat the Bulls with a healthy Rose? The Heat? Even the Nets?
No.
32-50 roster flush
29-53 roster flush
42-40 28-26 + 14-14 with roster turnover
18-24 main player dogging it
his best chance for success was the 28-26 team which at that moment was 6th seed if memory serves.