Knicks · Melo is playing Elite..... (page 1)

Sorry to be self indulgent and start a thread like this but I thought it would so delight my Homer friends here for me to serve up a proclamation in favor of Melo.

The kid continues to improve and live up to his potential. We all knew he had talent, its the maturity that he is getting.

Maturity on the court buying into the system, playing hard off the ball, and showing leadership by setting picks, rebounding, Jumping into the stands, and supporting his coach.

Homers and haters alike had no basis to predict this could happen other than HOPING it would. Haters never saw it in his career so could not see it coming. Homers love the starphuch anyway and buy into the Hype/hope served up.

Haters saw an immature Melo who frustrated his coach in Denver. We saw it to some degree with MDA. Melo has changed/Matured to buy into the team concept with Woodson. Karl was very complimentary of him coming into NY yesterday. He has been critical of him previously.

Melo seems to trust the system and his team.

This is not what I read, or the fables told by others, but what I see with my own eyes.

I am very pleased with the progress by Melo appreciate the high level of play so far this season!

As a skeptic of Melo and the trade I am happy to say this is one starphuch that seems to be working itself nice.

We'll let the future take care of itself, im just about this season for now.

Dolan is still an aszhole. He was fortunate this time. This was not about Dolan or any homer saying "Told you so", this is about Melo this past summer putting it together either in his head or with his body.

My hope is we can do this for the rest of the season and beyond. I am not skeptical but not alone in my surprise the team has been this good!

Sometimes we get good surprise! Its been a long time.

The games still matter most.

Nalod wrote:
Sorry to be self indulgent and start a thread like this but I thought it would so delight my Homer friends here for me to serve up a proclamation in favor of Melo.

The kid continues to improve and live up to his potential. We all knew he had talent, its the maturity that he is getting.

Maturity on the court buying into the system, playing hard off the ball, and showing leadership by setting picks, rebounding, Jumping into the stands, and supporting his coach.

Homers and haters alike had no basis to predict this could happen other than HOPING it would. Haters never saw it in his career so could not see it coming. Homers love the starphuch anyway and buy into the Hype/hope served up.

Haters saw an immature Melo who frustrated his coach in Denver. We saw it to some degree with MDA. Melo has changed/Matured to buy into the team concept with Woodson. Karl was very complimentary of him coming into NY yesterday. He has been critical of him previously.

Melo seems to trust the system and his team.

This is not what I read, or the fables told by others, but what I see with my own eyes.

I am very pleased with the progress by Melo appreciate the high level of play so far this season!

As a skeptic of Melo and the trade I am happy to say this is one starphuch that seems to be working itself nice.

We'll let the future take care of itself, im just about this season for now.

Dolan is still an aszhole. He was fortunate this time. This was not about Dolan or any homer saying "Told you so", this is about Melo this past summer putting it together either in his head or with his body.

My hope is we can do this for the rest of the season and beyond. I am not skeptical but not alone in my surprise the team has been this good!

Sometimes we get good surprise! Its been a long time.

The games still matter most.

Again I agree with Nalod,WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO?? Gotta be the end of the world.

Melo is better than every single player we gave up. We also got Felton back for cheap. It is clearly a win scenario for the NYK. Coming into the season, it was clear to me that this was the best Knick team in at least a decade. I stated this in July, August and October. It is being proven on the court now and there is plenty of room for improvement when Stat and Shump return.

cooch2584 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Sorry to be self indulgent and start a thread like this but I thought it would so delight my Homer friends here for me to serve up a proclamation in favor of Melo.

The kid continues to improve and live up to his potential. We all knew he had talent, its the maturity that he is getting.

Maturity on the court buying into the system, playing hard off the ball, and showing leadership by setting picks, rebounding, Jumping into the stands, and supporting his coach.

Homers and haters alike had no basis to predict this could happen other than HOPING it would. Haters never saw it in his career so could not see it coming. Homers love the starphuch anyway and buy into the Hype/hope served up.

Haters saw an immature Melo who frustrated his coach in Denver. We saw it to some degree with MDA. Melo has changed/Matured to buy into the team concept with Woodson. Karl was very complimentary of him coming into NY yesterday. He has been critical of him previously.

Melo seems to trust the system and his team.

This is not what I read, or the fables told by others, but what I see with my own eyes.

I am very pleased with the progress by Melo appreciate the high level of play so far this season!

As a skeptic of Melo and the trade I am happy to say this is one starphuch that seems to be working itself nice.

We'll let the future take care of itself, im just about this season for now.

Dolan is still an aszhole. He was fortunate this time. This was not about Dolan or any homer saying "Told you so", this is about Melo this past summer putting it together either in his head or with his body.

My hope is we can do this for the rest of the season and beyond. I am not skeptical but not alone in my surprise the team has been this good!

Sometimes we get good surprise! Its been a long time.

The games still matter most.

Again I agree with Nalod,WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO?? Gotta be the end of the world.

Giving credit where and when it is due.

Nalod wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Sorry to be self indulgent and start a thread like this but I thought it would so delight my Homer friends here for me to serve up a proclamation in favor of Melo.

The kid continues to improve and live up to his potential. We all knew he had talent, its the maturity that he is getting.

Maturity on the court buying into the system, playing hard off the ball, and showing leadership by setting picks, rebounding, Jumping into the stands, and supporting his coach.

Homers and haters alike had no basis to predict this could happen other than HOPING it would. Haters never saw it in his career so could not see it coming. Homers love the starphuch anyway and buy into the Hype/hope served up.

Haters saw an immature Melo who frustrated his coach in Denver. We saw it to some degree with MDA. Melo has changed/Matured to buy into the team concept with Woodson. Karl was very complimentary of him coming into NY yesterday. He has been critical of him previously.

Melo seems to trust the system and his team.

This is not what I read, or the fables told by others, but what I see with my own eyes.

I am very pleased with the progress by Melo appreciate the high level of play so far this season!

As a skeptic of Melo and the trade I am happy to say this is one starphuch that seems to be working itself nice.

We'll let the future take care of itself, im just about this season for now.

Dolan is still an aszhole. He was fortunate this time. This was not about Dolan or any homer saying "Told you so", this is about Melo this past summer putting it together either in his head or with his body.

My hope is we can do this for the rest of the season and beyond. I am not skeptical but not alone in my surprise the team has been this good!

Sometimes we get good surprise! Its been a long time.

The games still matter most.

Again I agree with Nalod,WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO?? Gotta be the end of the world.

Giving credit where and when it is due.

Thanks! It means a ton.

Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topi...

But I thought we lost the deal to the Nuggies! LOL.

Karl was very complimentary of him coming into NY yesterday. He has been critical of him previously.

Its called a slice of humble pie. Don't know what you got until its gone.

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Yes we know already tkf, Melo killed your firstborn child, and ate it for breakfast lunch and dinner.

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Yes we know already tkf, Melo killed your firstborn child, and ate it for breakfast lunch and dinner.

jeez chuck, you let the cat out of the bag......

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Wow...you can't even do the work to compare his season stats to his career numbers? He's at his career averages for everything except 3pt FG% (up by 13) and assists (down by 1 because he's on the court with 2 point guards most of the time).

You obviously put on a show to get the board riled up. If not, it's beyond me how you or anyone else can't support Melo when he is doing everything ever asked of him.

Did we really need another Melo thread? Anything new here?

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Yes we know already tkf, Melo killed your firstborn child, and ate it for breakfast lunch and dinner.

jeez chuck, you let the cat out of the bag......

you cannot see the forest for the trees... the cat in the bag that the evil Carmelo Anthony is the best player on the first place team in the Eastern Conference. Get over yourself already

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

He is putting more effort on defense then he ever has in his career, he is also taking better shots then he has in the past. There are a lot of things that are factoring into that. Like he has a more defensive minded coach then he has ever had in the NBA. And he has more trust in his teammates then he has ever had in the past. Things like trusting teammates and understanding it doesn't have to all be on your shoulders usually comes with age though there are special players that get earlier.

He has been prone at times this season to slip back to bad habits but for he most part he has done a good job in those areas.

His catch and shooting is a lot better this season then last season as well and he is knocking down 3s on the regular which is a great sign for when Amare comes back. Melo's failure to shoot effectively from the outside for the majority of the season last yr hurt Amare's game and Amare's inability to knock down his 18 footer hurt Melo and Tyson's game.

MSG3 wrote:

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Wow...you can't even do the work to compare his season stats to his career numbers? He's at his career averages for everything except 3pt FG% (up by 13) and assists (down by 1 because he's on the court with 2 point guards most of the time).

You obviously put on a show to get the board riled up. If not, it's beyond me how you or anyone else can't support Melo when he is doing everything ever asked of him.

OK, SO what are you talking about, fish was asking is he doing anything better.. overall, he isn't... the end bro..

SupremeCommander wrote:

tkf wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Yes we know already tkf, Melo killed your firstborn child, and ate it for breakfast lunch and dinner.

jeez chuck, you let the cat out of the bag......

you cannot see the forest for the trees... the cat in the bag that the evil Carmelo Anthony is the best player on the first place team in the Eastern Conference. Get over yourself already

that honor goes to jason kidd at this point bro..

/snore

This discussion is getting boring. Melo has been great. It is proven out on the court and team record. Trolls won't give him any credit and actual Knick fans should not care about trolls not giving Melo credit.

tkf wrote:

MSG3 wrote:

tkf wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Putting people in position to succeed and covering there weaknesses = winning formula.
Putting people in position to fail and then bashing them for not overcoming all obsticales = losing/dysfunctional formula.

A lot of the knocks on Melo were legit at the same time he was slightly over criticized. The problem I had was the viewpoint that he would never get better or ever find success when over the yrs of watching basketball we have seen tons of players do so in the later parts of there careers.

this more than anything else.

Is Melo shooting better?
Is Melo rebounding more?
Is Melo getting more assists?
Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

He's an star and he's playing like an all star. Team is better and winning more games because the team is better so they are winning more games.

Is Melo shooting better?

NO

Is Melo rebounding more?

NO

Is Melo getting more assists?

absolutely NOT..

Is Melo getting more steals? FTS?

NO

How do you quanity Melo doing anything better than he has done the reason of his career?

good post, but you must remember around here...

he is a Knick Fish, the heart wants to believe what the heart wants to believe...

again, I am more impressed with how kidd is playing than anything else...

Wow...you can't even do the work to compare his season stats to his career numbers? He's at his career averages for everything except 3pt FG% (up by 13) and assists (down by 1 because he's on the court with 2 point guards most of the time).

You obviously put on a show to get the board riled up. If not, it's beyond me how you or anyone else can't support Melo when he is doing everything ever asked of him.

OK, SO what are you talking about, fish was asking is he doing anything better.. overall, he isn't... the end bro..

Oh I see. You're saying his career numbers are bad. This means you have no basketball perspective whatsoever. The end bro...