Knicks · Time to start criticizing 2 people (page 1)

MSG3 @ 2/10/2013 4:34 PM
Tyson Chandler: Pretty clear to me that he picks and chooses when to play with effort. A guy of his caliber needs to set a proper screen every time, keep your hands up when defending and box out. He can do this with the best in the league. But his heads not in the game half the time. And I don't think saying his heads in the game HALF THE TIME is unfair. Maybe there's a reason he only averaged 26 mpg when Dallas won.

Mike Woodson: Our defense is pathetic. His lineup rotations are curious at times. He's trusting guys that are not worthy of it right now. He has to figure out how to get theses guys to stop penetration. That is the only thing killing us on D. And we need to adjust the starting lineup. Kidd needs to come off the bench. Shump at the 2.

Steve Novak: complete liability. Worse on D than Stat. Not hitting open shots. He shouldn't even be in the rotation right now.

Moving forward I think James White needs to start taking Novaks minutes. Move Amare back into the starting 5.

Pray that either Wallace or Camby can be healthy the next few months.

TeamBall @ 2/10/2013 4:41 PM
Amare doesnt even get consideration for starting until Sheed and/or Camby comes back
IronWillGiroud @ 2/10/2013 4:41 PM
That's three people
gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 4:42 PM
Agreed..

Tyson
Amare
Melo
Shump
Felton

or

Tyson
Melo
White
Shump
Felton

gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 4:44 PM
TeamBall wrote:Amare doesnt even get consideration for starting until Sheed and/or Camby comes back

Might have to with the way this team is playing. Might have to suck it up and play Kurt more minutes until Sheed gets back if ever.

Or trade for a backup PF/C who isn't 140 years old

matt @ 2/10/2013 4:46 PM
Chandler has been less than impressive this year in my opinion. He almost never blocks a shot or plays useful help defense. I thought last year was a much better year for him. Having said that, it drives me crazy when he's guarding someone in the post and the Knicks double. Guaranteed to cause confusion and scrambling
TeamBall @ 2/10/2013 4:47 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
TeamBall wrote:Amare doesnt even get consideration for starting until Sheed and/or Camby comes back

Might have to with the way this team is playing. Might have to suck it up and play Kurt more minutes until Sheed gets back if ever.

Or trade for a backup PF/C who isn't 140 years old


I would do it depending on who we're playing. I dont think Woody would though.
gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 4:48 PM
Like when Kidd went to help Amare and left his guy wide open in the paint for a dunk.

This is on Woodson all the way. Time to make adjustments to philosophies on both ends

Anji @ 2/10/2013 5:15 PM
I would say that Melo has carry the offense no matter who starts, let's see if we can make the game ugly with Brewer and White starting. Go ball to the walls with crazy switching around the 3 small forwards and let iso melo carry the 1st/3rd quarters.
MS @ 2/10/2013 5:19 PM
I think long term deals for Novak, Camby and Smith were also a mistake. That 10MM locked up for the next three years. We could really use another point guard that could score and get to the rim. We look really old out there.

Our offense absolutely sucks. Everything is Melo isolation. Hes been awesome, but JR is given way to much flexibility the guy just kills your offense.

Vmart @ 2/10/2013 5:21 PM
Copeland is unnecessarily riding the pine. I hold Woody personally accountable for that decision.
gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 5:22 PM
Vmart wrote:Copeland is unnecessarily riding the pine. I hold Woody personally accountable for that decision.

He's the worst defender on the team.

I would play White or Kurt ahead of him

Papabear @ 2/10/2013 5:39 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Agreed..

Tyson
Amare
Melo
Shump
Felton

or

Tyson
Melo
White
Shump
Felton


Papabear Says

It won't work because we need another scorer that we can depend on and we don't have it.

yellowboy90 @ 2/10/2013 5:44 PM
NO 3g or DK. Can I get a quote from TKF "good point". Oh well.
gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 5:44 PM
Lakers playing better defense than the Knicks. Kinda sad
Vmart @ 2/10/2013 5:54 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:Copeland is unnecessarily riding the pine. I hold Woody personally accountable for that decision.

He's the worst defender on the team.

I would play White or Kurt ahead of him

Can't be worse than Novack.

gunsnewing @ 2/10/2013 5:56 PM
Vmart wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:Copeland is unnecessarily riding the pine. I hold Woody personally accountable for that decision.

He's the worst defender on the team.

I would play White or Kurt ahead of him

Can't be worse than Novack.

Thats debatable

Anji @ 2/10/2013 6:03 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
Vmart wrote:Copeland is unnecessarily riding the pine. I hold Woody personally accountable for that decision.

He's the worst defender on the team.

I would play White or Kurt ahead of him

Can't be worse than Novack.

Thats debatable

Nobody is worst than Novak, coach doesn't care though because "nobody is better from here to there boy". He forgot to add completely uncovered and usually up by 8-15 points.

callmened @ 2/10/2013 7:23 PM
They need to play more zone!!
loweyecue @ 2/10/2013 7:39 PM
We are hopeless against quicker teams.
DJMUSIC @ 2/10/2013 7:46 PM
Agree on Novacs

They need to eliminate the 3rd wheel of this Tri-fecta of the past (Jeremy Lin/ Landry Fields / S.Novacs)

You cant run Novacs out of town too quickly for me, he gets minutes & wastes them! I am a Novacs fan but cannot support him anymore he seems more
lost than ever & he should be fighting for offense and shots, get to free throw line, Novacs dont do none of that & has become too predictable and
he's accepted being stopped. A legit non-factor when he cant drain 3's

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