I say no, because we've seen enough of Woodson to know that he's just not that great. But who else is there? Only coach I can think of that's sorta available is Van Gundy. Either, actually
Woodson is clueless AND stubborn
We'll see what happens in the playoffs. Woodson was making better decisions early on as coach here, in the regular season anyway. Lately some of his moves have been a head scratcher.
Absolutely. Knicks were coached by an offensive genius for 4 years. It didn't work. Second place in the east equals job insecurity?
He is the only proven coach I'd hire but he will never work for Dolan
Phil isn't coming to a flawed team
Gonna have to find someone else's assistant. Who are the assistant coaches in Chicago & Indiana?
Riley & JVG produced some great NBA Head Coaches. What about Woodson? Jim Todd, Walker, Herb????
Its a damn shame we don't have one of these guys on our staff. Woodson seems pretty comfortable hiring assistants who will never threaten his job. He already experienced the bad side of having a capable assistant in Atlanta.
CrushAlot wrote:Absolutely. Knicks were coached by an offensive genius for 4 years. It didn't work. Second place in the east equals job insecurity?
Balance.
Dantoni and Woodson are too polarizing
As much as we would never win a ring with Dantoni's lack of defense
We will never win a ring with Woodson's low IQ offensive strategies(low IQ like his fav player JR). If you can call it strategy
Woodson is fine. You guys are too much.
Let's be fair: the guy has turned the Knicks into a respectable team. It was atrocious with D'Antoni and he immediately came in and scored a great record which has followed to this season. The guy deserves his many props.
Now, I think we've hit the the wall with him. The team seems to struggle to be motivated with him. His offensive coaching is horrible, especially since he threw the best part of Mike D's playbook and has only left the amount of 3s taken. Defense is bipolar, guards are the same and we can't seem to beat the contenders now that they are getting ready for the playoffs.
Good job Woody, but I vote "no".
Knicksfan wrote:Let's be fair: the guy has turned the Knicks into a respectable team. It was atrocious with D'Antoni and he immediately came in and scored a great record which has followed to this season. The guy deserves his many props.Now, I think we've hit the the wall with him. The team seems to struggle to be motivated with him. His offensive coaching is horrible, especially since he threw the best part of Mike D's playbook and has only left the amount of 3s taken. Defense is bipolar, guards are the same and we can't seem to beat the contenders now that they are getting ready for the playoffs.
Good job Woody, but I vote "no".
Im leaning toward this but I still wanna wait until after the play offs
We may be flawed, but we do have the main pieces set. We could restock for next season (how? It isn't my job!).
Oh and another thing. Dantoni at least is a proven great offensive mind/coach
What is Woodson exactly? We are 15th in defense. We never get stops or rebs down the stretch. We trade buckets. Not much difference from the Dantoni era. Is it the players despite having a veteran/completely revamped roster?
Isiah had a quick hook. Grunwald would allow woody to lose for at least 2 years with a decent roster before he would accept his resignation. One thing that is overlooked with Woodson, the team does a lot better when he can work with them in practice. The Knicks did not look good in the preseason but came out and started the season on fire. I think the rest between games and the chance to practice prior to the playoffs will be huge for the Knicks.
CrushAlot wrote:Absolutely. Knicks were coached by an offensive genius for 4 years. It didn't work. Second place in the east equals job insecurity?
LOL @ this hypocrite.
Such a typical response I saw coming miles away.
Woodson is basically Mike D'Antoni offensively, probably worse offensively, and his defensive coaching is mediocre at best. But of course with a better roster he has nice record (which wont mean anything when he loses us games in the playoffs) and he's automatically a good coach.
You need to support Woodson because you were practically falling over yourself trying to prop him up as some amazing coach so now you'll defend him to the death. Good for you...but nobody's buying it.
Gotta see more from Woodson offensively before we let him coach this team for the next 3yrs or the Melo/Amare era will ultimately be a disappointing one and we'll have no choice but to look forward to 2015 and a fresh start. New younger players and a new coach
I said in another thread that I can't remember the last time I turned so quickly on a coach. There have been other coaches that I didn't like from the get-go but turning on a guy in less than a year? The longer the season goes on, the more that Woodson institutes his gameplan the worse we seem to be. The lineups make absolutely no sense and haven't for a while. I think it's only a matter of time until certain players, like Amare, start turning on him because of how their playing time is meted out compared to other players'. And when was the last time we ran an actual play at the end of a close game? It seems like the call every time is a clear out and iso. Seriously, how is putting the ball in JR's hands and him doing a turnaround fadeaway from 18 feet a good idea? I don't know too much about any in-demand assistant coaches but the guy on the Lakers, Brian Hill, is a name that's usually brought up with some frequency. Preferably though, I would start throwing money, cars, jewelry, and whatever else at Phil Jackson to come here and coach.
We bought into Mike Woodson because once he took over for Dantoni he said it is his job to get Melo/Amare/Tyson to play well together. Now he has Amare and his $20mil coming off the bench in favor of Kurt Thomas and James White. Not seeing the plan through imho
VCoug wrote:I said in another thread that I can't remember the last time I turned so quickly on a coach. There have been other coaches that I didn't like from the get-go but turning on a guy in less than a year? The longer the season goes on, the more that Woodson institutes his gameplan the worse we seem to be. The lineups make absolutely no sense and haven't for a while. I think it's only a matter of time until certain players, like Amare, start turning on him because of how their playing time is meted out compared to other players'. And when was the last time we ran an actual play at the end of a close game? It seems like the call every time is a clear out and iso. Seriously, how is putting the ball in JR's hands and him doing a turnaround fadeaway from 18 feet a good idea? I don't know too much about any in-demand assistant coaches but the guy on the Lakers, Brian Hill, is a name that's usually brought up with some frequency. Preferably though, I would start throwing money, cars, jewelry, and whatever else at Phil Jackson to come here and coach.
I think I'm in the same boat. Will know for sure after the playoffs. Problem is Woodson is going nowhere for at least another year even if we get swept in the 1st round.
Yeah, besides wins and loses D'Antoni is actually a much better coach.
gunsnewing wrote:Oh and another thing. Dantoni at least is a proven great offensive mind/coachWhat is Woodson. We are 15th in defense. We never get stops or rebs down the stretch. We trade buckets. Not much difference from the Dantoni era. Is it the players despite having a veteran/completely revamped roster?
JamesKPolk wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Absolutely. Knicks were coached by an offensive genius for 4 years. It didn't work. Second place in the east equals job insecurity?
LOL @ this hypocrite.
Such a typical response I saw coming miles away.
Woodson is basically Mike D'Antoni offensively, probably worse offensively, and his defensive coaching is mediocre at best. But of course with a better roster he has nice record (which wont mean anything when he loses us games in the playoffs) and he's automatically a good coach.
You need to support Woodson because you were practically falling over yourself trying to prop him up as some amazing coach so now you'll defend him to the death. Good for you...but nobody's buying it.
Do I need to post what I posted in the Detroit Game thread again?
never thought woodson was a good coach. it's too bad melo didnt like d'antoni, i still think he'd be the perfect coach for this team.
Yea once Dolan forced Donnie's hand in getting Melo at all costs it signaled the end of the Dantoni era.
Should Dantoni have adjusted his philosophy to suit Melo or should Melo have bought into SSOL? Neither did anything about it so Dantoni is gone. They will always get rid of the coach before the player. If either scenario happened we'd be a better team today because offensively Dantoni is light years ahead of Woodson.
Dantoni might've won with this roster since they are savy vets who know how to defend. We wouldn't see predictable iso ball.
Right now Woodson is a mess offensively and his strength "Defense" is 15th in the league. His lineups and rotations have no rhythm or reason. We lack an identity. Too many low IQ players mixed with veterans who should not be allowed to free lance. The head honcho "JR Smith" happens to be a favorite of the coach. On second thought we do have an identity, low IQ basketball is our identity
Not a good combination
