Clean wrote:I love melo and STAT but why can't the team play like this when they play? Playing this way also helps them play better.
Papabear Says
It's because they stand around with no since of urgency. It's not that they are better without Melo or Stat it's that they try harder with out them for a few games and when they come back down to earth the need will be there. Melo should learn from this. Stop the ISO so much but it's not Melo's call it's Woody's call. I'm glad Copeland got a chance to play. I truly believe that he will be one of keys to winning in the playoffs. Woody better stop being so stubborn or he will be looking for another job next season.
NYDiva wrote:playa2 wrote:The continual ball movement has made the Jazz move their feet and as the game wore on they became tired, this is how we are supposed to play all the time.
I am not sure why the Knicks cannot play like this more often. Coaching? Leadership? Maybe they need something to rally around to get them going?
Early in the season, there were tremendous expectations for the year and the team wanted to show they could play well despite the injuries. Perhaps that fueled them. Maybe Amar'e and Melo being out is fueling them tonight.
Papabear Says
This is what you will see come playoff time with Melo and Stat in the game. The Team will step up.
A win like this was just what I needed! If we can keep this up, there's still hope- the defense and effort was the best it's been in a long time, nice to see everyone sharing the ball again too.
Well it's the dreaded road trip coming up- who knows how it's going to go, but if we play like this we have a shot at coming out of it okay.
CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:playa2 wrote:The continual ball movement has made the Jazz move their feet and as the game wore on they became tired, this is how we are supposed to play all the time.
I agree! That style wears on teams and in the end you just can't defend the entire floor every game.
COPE SAYS F U WOODY!!!
I think he is making his case to play. I think Amare's success lessened the need and minutes for Cope.
Woodson wouldn't play Copeland. Instead he played Amare over his 30 minute cap. Now Amare needs another knee surgery. Stupid coach.
Copeland can play, and Copeland can score.
Markji wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:playa2 wrote:The continual ball movement has made the Jazz move their feet and as the game wore on they became tired, this is how we are supposed to play all the time.
I agree! That style wears on teams and in the end you just can't defend the entire floor every game.
COPE SAYS F U WOODY!!!
I think he is making his case to play. I think Amare's success lessened the need and minutes for Cope.
Woodson wouldn't play Copeland. Instead he played Amare over his 30 minute cap. Now Amare needs another knee surgery. Stupid coach.
Copeland can play, and Copeland can score.
Really? Amare played 2:34 over his minutes cap total. That was in the 2 games melo was out. Guys were calling for him to start when Woodson was keeping him under 24 minutes.
Again i was calling for him to start and play 25-30mins. Turns out whether he played 10-30 he wasnt finishing the season. At least this happened now. Maybe he comes back if not knicks can establish an identity. Start Novak with Melo
CrushAlot wrote:Markji wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:playa2 wrote:The continual ball movement has made the Jazz move their feet and as the game wore on they became tired, this is how we are supposed to play all the time.
I agree! That style wears on teams and in the end you just can't defend the entire floor every game.
COPE SAYS F U WOODY!!!
I think he is making his case to play. I think Amare's success lessened the need and minutes for Cope.
Woodson wouldn't play Copeland. Instead he played Amare over his 30 minute cap. Now Amare needs another knee surgery. Stupid coach.
Copeland can play, and Copeland can score.
Really? Amare played 2:34 over his minutes cap total. That was in the 2 games melo was out. Guys were calling for him to start when Woodson was keeping him under 24 minutes.
I wasn't calling for Amare to start. I liked him coming off the bench.
Only 2 minutes over. Fine. Still played too much at 29 minutes some games. Copeland could have taken 5 - 10 minutes and given Amare more rest.
nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:You need stars to take and make big shots and to step up and take over when things don't go we'll. you just can't forget about team ball tho!
I love when guys step up when the stars are out. Oak used to have epic games when Pat was out.
It also proves that when they hustle on D and play as a team they can play above expectations without the 2 top paid players.
Also Glen did good finally getting KMart. White finally contributed and all the role players showed they can execute.
What I see whether it's a pick up game or the NBA, when all the players are included in the offensive end with ball movement, they all have the fire and desire to defend. This is why the 1st 2 months of the season went so well regardless of who was playing. See.... SanAntonio
You wouldve prolonged the inevitable. Amare would have gone down 2weeks before the playoffs and be shut down for the yr. Then the team would get swept like last yr because they didnt have enough time to gel without Amare
Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
you and i agree on woodson being stubborn. but alhough this was a blowout win, this was a "made for us" opponent. let's be clear on that. they are the worst at defending the 3. and we love shooting the 3. its a recipe for success against them, dont you think? i doubt it if we are going to shoot it that well the next game. what will woodson do then, melo and jr iso plays?
Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
What happened is there's nothing to post about when your team finally manages to do exactly what it is supposed to do. People post when the team either exceeds expectations (yeah right) or fails to meet them (every other game). If all you care about is people jumping up and down everytime we beat one of the worst teams in the league - there's of plenty of other forums out there with fans like that.
loweyecue wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
What happened is there's nothing to post about when your team finally manages to do exactly what it is supposed to do. People post when the team either exceeds expectations (yeah right) or fails to meet them (every other game). If all you care about is people jumping up and down everytime we beat one of the worst teams in the league - there's of plenty of other forums out there with fans like that.
Knicks have the two seed and got a win without their stars. Lots to post up about just not the typical forum drama that is inserted.
NO one wants to comment on how well Felton played. He has been pretty good since he has been back when it comes to his shooting. The bad thing is his D has been bad and assists have dropped while TOs have increased.
Markji wrote:CrushAlot wrote:nixluva wrote:playa2 wrote:The continual ball movement has made the Jazz move their feet and as the game wore on they became tired, this is how we are supposed to play all the time.
I agree! That style wears on teams and in the end you just can't defend the entire floor every game.
COPE SAYS F U WOODY!!!
I think he is making his case to play. I think Amare's success lessened the need and minutes for Cope.
Woodson wouldn't play Copeland. Instead he played Amare over his 30 minute cap. Now Amare needs another knee surgery. Stupid coach.
Copeland can play, and Copeland can score.
Papabear Says
I don't think the extra 2 minutes made a difference but I do think if we played Copeland a little more Copeland would contribute. Hey maybe they think Copeland is that good but won't play him so no one else would want him and we could sign him at the end of the season on the cheap for 3 years.
CrushAlot wrote:loweyecue wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
What happened is there's nothing to post about when your team finally manages to do exactly what it is supposed to do. People post when the team either exceeds expectations (yeah right) or fails to meet them (every other game). If all you care about is people jumping up and down everytime we beat one of the worst teams in the league - there's of plenty of other forums out there with fans like that.
Knicks have the two seed and got a win without their stars. Lots to post up about just not the typical forum drama that is inserted.
And should the Utes make the playoffs, we will be reading somberisms about how they're built for the future, the amount of cap space they have and how they're younger and more athletic than we are... in a tougher conference. SMH
UK clockwork: winning game thread = 10 pages. Losing game thread = 20 pages. Quite telling.
CrushAlot wrote:loweyecue wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
What happened is there's nothing to post about when your team finally manages to do exactly what it is supposed to do. People post when the team either exceeds expectations (yeah right) or fails to meet them (every other game). If all you care about is people jumping up and down everytime we beat one of the worst teams in the league - there's of plenty of other forums out there with fans like that.
Knicks have the two seed and got a win without their stars. Lots to post up about just not the typical forum drama that is inserted.
It's the ridiculous constant moving of the goal posts- people constantly post that we absolutely suck and our record is an illusion, but at the same time expect us to win every game even against the elite teams. Make up your minds- either we suck, in which case every win is a great achievement, or we are a good team, in which case why do you keep posted that we suck?!
smackeddog wrote:CrushAlot wrote:loweyecue wrote:Papabear wrote:Papabear SaysWhat happened?? When we loose the blog has over 20 or more pages of posts but when we win no one has any thing to say. Or just the haters post less or don't post at all.
What happened is there's nothing to post about when your team finally manages to do exactly what it is supposed to do. People post when the team either exceeds expectations (yeah right) or fails to meet them (every other game). If all you care about is people jumping up and down everytime we beat one of the worst teams in the league - there's of plenty of other forums out there with fans like that.
Knicks have the two seed and got a win without their stars. Lots to post up about just not the typical forum drama that is inserted.
It's the ridiculous constant moving of the goal posts- people constantly post that we absolutely suck and our record is an illusion, but at the same time expect us to win every game even against the elite teams. Make up your minds- either we suck, in which case every win is a great achievement, or we are a good team, in which case why do you keep posted that we suck?!
This type of logic is very dangerous to even talk about.
Don't forget, it's ECF or we suck. Forever and always.
However, the "we suck" contingent never expect us to win any games against quality, and if we do win a game they're either disinterested, explain it away as a mirage, a league conspiracy, scheduling nightmares, or the opponent's propensity for partying.
Beat a playoff team in that tougher conference by 30 = 8 pages.
Lose to a top 3 team in the league by one point = 20 pages.
It's a fact of life and a worldview issue.
