Knicks · Jared Zwerling: Knicks preparing offer for Elton Brand (page 3)

ChuckBuck @ 7/2/2013 12:17 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Hasn't Brand played Center the last 4-5 yrs in Philly and Dallas?

Yes. He's 6'9 but has the wingspan of an eagle(7'5), thus why he's averaged around 2 blocks for his career.

DurzoBlint @ 7/2/2013 12:18 PM
Marc Stein is reporting that he's in talks to resign with Dallas. Guess they was just the another case of NBA Beat writers making stuff up. Next time I will wait to see a link before wasting my thought on something like this.
3G4G @ 7/2/2013 12:19 PM
I see the Knicks keeping it Righteous.....Elton Brand 34 yrs old will turn 35 before season is over.


Another Old Head...Hip-Hip Hooray!!!!!

nyk4ever @ 7/2/2013 12:21 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:Marc Stein is reporting that he's in talks to resign with Dallas. Guess they was just the another case of NBA Beat writers making stuff up. Next time I will wait to see a link before wasting my thought on something like this.

maybe you shouldn't assume anything next time? the title clearly states, that the knicks are preparing an offer for brand, not that they signed him or anything. just sayin.

Bonn1997 @ 7/2/2013 12:22 PM
Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.
holfresh @ 7/2/2013 12:23 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.

When are u going to stop...

3G4G @ 7/2/2013 12:23 PM
Rumors: Elton Brand has strong interest in returning to Dallas


Jorge Sierra
https://twitter.com/hoopshype


If true not surprising always use the Knicks to get paid either by us or another team....We are the leveraging franchise.

DurzoBlint @ 7/2/2013 12:24 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:Marc Stein is reporting that he's in talks to resign with Dallas. Guess they was just the another case of NBA Beat writers making stuff up. Next time I will wait to see a link before wasting my thought on something like this.

maybe you shouldn't assume anything next time? the title clearly states, that the knicks are preparing an offer for brand, not that they signed him or anything. just sayin.

thanks but I fully comprehended that and never made an assumption. I allowed myself to entertain the possibility before seeing a link but, thanks for responding.

Bonn1997 @ 7/2/2013 12:26 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.

When are u going to stop...


When I'm wrong (i.e., never)
BigDaddyG @ 7/2/2013 12:27 PM
3G4G wrote:
Rumors: Elton Brand has strong interest in returning to Dallas


Jorge Sierra
https://twitter.com/hoopshype


If true not surprising always use the Knicks to get paid either by us or another team....We are the leveraging franchise.

Man, I'm still hopeful that he will want to finish out his career back home. He would go a long way in plugging up some of our roster holes.

ChuckBuck @ 7/2/2013 12:28 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.

When are u going to stop...


When I'm wrong (i.e., never)

Uhm, Tyson Chandler(COUGH) Best Player on the Knicks (COUGH)

Sorry, had a tickle in my throat.

Finestrg @ 7/2/2013 12:32 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

Man, I'd look elsewhere if this is the case. I could go out and get a much younger equivalent that can do the same exact things Brand can where we wouldn't have to break up this $3.2m mini-MLE. We could keep that intact for a PG or something else. SMH..

Bonn1997 @ 7/2/2013 12:32 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.

When are u going to stop...


When I'm wrong (i.e., never)

Uhm, Tyson Chandler(COUGH) Best Player on the Knicks (COUGH)

Sorry, had a tickle in my throat.


During that stretch he was. I never said he was for the full season.
If you go by the advanced stats, it's ambiguous who the best player was for the full season.
If you go by the eyeball test, you'll just see what you want to see.
CrushAlot @ 7/2/2013 12:33 PM
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

Man, I'd look elsewhere if this is the case. I could go out and get a much younger equivalent that can do the same exact things Brand can where we wouldn't have to break up this $3.2m mini-MLE. We could keep that intact for a PG or something else. SMH..

It doesn't make sense if the vet mini is 1.5 mil. Splitting makes little sense to sign brand.
ChuckBuck @ 7/2/2013 12:38 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Brand would be a great pickup. Right now, he's far better than Bargnani.

When are u going to stop...


When I'm wrong (i.e., never)

Uhm, Tyson Chandler(COUGH) Best Player on the Knicks (COUGH)

Sorry, had a tickle in my throat.


During that stretch he was. I never said he was for the full season.
If you go by the advanced stats, it's ambiguous who the best player was for the full season.
If you go by the eyeball test, you'll just see what you want to see.

Safe to say Chandler failed all tests last season, even the ball cough test.

DurzoBlint @ 7/2/2013 12:38 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

Man, I'd look elsewhere if this is the case. I could go out and get a much younger equivalent that can do the same exact things Brand can where we wouldn't have to break up this $3.2m mini-MLE. We could keep that intact for a PG or something else. SMH..

It doesn't make sense if the vet mini is 1.5 mil. Splitting makes little sense to sign brand.

they aren't talking about splitting the vet minimum...not sure that's even possible. They are talking about the mid level exception we still have.

Finestrg @ 7/2/2013 12:38 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:Marc Stein is reporting that he's in talks to resign with Dallas. Guess they was just the another case of NBA Beat writers making stuff up. Next time I will wait to see a link before wasting my thought on something like this.

I would not overpay this guy to come here...Let him go back to Dallas...Grunwald should feel confident that he can fill this need for a backup big man for far less money. I have no idea why he wouldn't feel that way. Why overpay and dip into this MLE for a guy that won't play more than 20 mins a game backing up the 4/5 spots?? We could get a young guy (with a higher ceiling than a 35-year-old Brand possibly -- maybe we could uncover a gem with a younger big) at league minimum money....At the very least, we could get Earl Barron who's a good 3-4 years younger than Brand, for the vet minimum...Backup PG is where I'd look to use the $3.2m exception. I mean what if there's nothing to this Eric Bledsoe thing, Collison won't take the mini-ML, neither will Devin Harris and there winds up being a bidding war for Aaron Brooks in a week or 2? Shouldn't we want the mini-ML for that scenario? I hope they know what they're doing man...Speaking of Bledsoe, I'd love to pry that kid away from the Clippers. For that, I'd be prepared to S&T JR Smith AND even include Hardaway Jr. if need be.

SupremeCommander @ 7/2/2013 12:40 PM
okay... I like Brand but I think this is slightly ridiculous that the team doesn't seem concerned with improving the perimeter
CrushAlot @ 7/2/2013 12:40 PM
DurzoBlint wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

Man, I'd look elsewhere if this is the case. I could go out and get a much younger equivalent that can do the same exact things Brand can where we wouldn't have to break up this $3.2m mini-MLE. We could keep that intact for a PG or something else. SMH..

It doesn't make sense if the vet mini is 1.5 mil. Splitting makes little sense to sign brand.

they aren't talking about splitting the vet minimum...not sure that's even possible. They are talking about the mid level exception we still have.

I think we agree. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I was thinking 3.2 split equals 1.6.
BigDaddyG @ 7/2/2013 12:44 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:okay... I like Brand but I think this is slightly ridiculous that the team doesn't seem concerned with improving the perimeter

They're reportedly looking at Francisco Garcia, Aaron Brooks etc. There's not too much you can do with the current cap situation.

DurzoBlint @ 7/2/2013 12:48 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
DurzoBlint wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Finestrg wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Marc Berman ‏@NYPost_Berman 8s
Had Brand as one of #Knicks three free agent targets in Sunday Post's graphic. Continued interest shows they have to break up 3.1M midlevel.

Man, I'd look elsewhere if this is the case. I could go out and get a much younger equivalent that can do the same exact things Brand can where we wouldn't have to break up this $3.2m mini-MLE. We could keep that intact for a PG or something else. SMH..

It doesn't make sense if the vet mini is 1.5 mil. Splitting makes little sense to sign brand.

they aren't talking about splitting the vet minimum...not sure that's even possible. They are talking about the mid level exception we still have.

I think we agree. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I was thinking 3.2 split equals 1.6.

I read Jared Zwerling's report that the Knicks plan on splitting that for Prigs and Cope which makes more sense. That way they can offer those 2 enough to stay. Otherwise they can only offer those guys a minimum salry. I don't see prigs going anywhere but Cope is a worry.

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