Knicks · Carmelo Is Right, Andrea Bargnini Was a Steal (page 44)

bonn - you are moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, selfish and one dimensional.

But that's just related to what you write so it's cool, right?

Of course not.

bonn - you are an informed and passionate Knicks fan, whose views I respect, whether I agree or not.

There is no disputing that Carmelo Anthony is a target for abuse for reasons that are grounded in bias against the successful ghetto superstar who had everything given to him and never had to work hard. His talents were bestowed at birth and his jumper was inherited from his moms. His smile is a taunt of arrogance.

His wife flaunts her sexy and sits in the front row. She is hotter than what he deserves and probably a gold digger. He held the owner of the franchise at gunpoint forcing him to sacrifice his best assets, thereby gutting the team, so he could work where he wanted. In a system of forced labor, nobody works where they want. Free will is a privilege reserved for owners, not the workers.

The media takes the parable and runs with it, noting his obscene salary at every opportunity. The return can never match the investment. Miley Cyrus has a net worth of $120 million. It's cool. She is an entertainer. She is an artist. She has it easy. The ghetto superstar must carry the burden of a franchise. The ghetto superstar is also destined to fail. According to tkf and dk7th, the inevitability of that failure is cause for celebrating defeat, boycotting the franchise, or riot.

The ghetto superstar needs to be run out of town. We need things to go back to the way they used to be back in the good old days. We should send the ol' boys to Carmelo's house to burn a cross on his lawn.

Panos wrote:[yawn]

EXACTLY

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

misterearl wrote:Exactly

MaTT4281 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

tkf wrote:
which is why my NY pride doesn't allow me to root for some selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I MEAN IT!

Sorry but when I see this type of rant about an athlete generally a red flag goes up. To have this deep of a hatred towards another who you do not know personally, has not materially harmed you nor performed criminal actions really speaks to a serious issue. You appear to be obsessed with Carmelo in a negative way - as if he has deeply wounded you in some way. Athletes are essentially entertainers....if you do not like the show....you are free to change the channel instead of continuing to watch only to obsess on how bad the acting is.

so long as you regard sport as primarily entertainment and athletes primarily as entertainers you won't have any standards for excellence and you will never deserve to root for a title-winning team. that pathetic piece of shyt dolan just loves folks like you.

What do you regard sports as if not entertainment?

MaTT4281 - well stated. In this case, sports... more specifically, Carmelo Anthony, appears as the target for some deep-seated resentment that has less to do with basketball and more to do with a personal prism that only sees negative light.

selfish - Melo played while injured

wannabe - wanna be like who exactly? Mike? Denzel? Who? Tom Cruise perhaps?

moronic - not unless you think representing your country in the Olympics is moronic

idiotic - see above (this is just getting silly)

self aggrandizing - name one pro player in any sport with a tiny ego. Please.

one dimensional - sorry, 29 and 8 is not one-dimensional

coach killing - cut the drama queen-isms. No coaches were killed in the filming of last years highlight reel.

out of shape - patently false. This ain't no Mr. Olympia contest. Kevin Durant is a stick figure. You gotta problem with that?

no passing - sheesh. If Carmelo passed more you would diss him for "avoiding responsibility"

inefficient - yawn

overpaid - it ain't your money

team gutting - he ain't the general manager

playoff losing - now you're just being a cry baby

chucker - okay, you can have that one

Thats what it mostly comes down to, earl.

You guys should get a room together!

hopefully they will envite me along with them. Bonn, can you honestly say that some of the Melo haters don't have a personal, deep rooted hatred for him that goes beyond basketball? Some of the posts have no bases in reality.

I don't think it goes beyond basketball - sometimes they criticize him for being chubby or greedy (not waiting to be an FA) but that's still related to basketball because of how it impacts the team. A-Rod's probably the only player in NY that gets the kind of criticism you're talking about.

And with A-rod at least he came to NY and was vital in them winning a championship.... so at least he can say that.. guess what the knicks got........

For the record, I am not a big A-rod fan at all. I actually hate that he opted out and the yanks were now on the hook for all the money texas had to pay him as part of the original deal. i think A-rod is a greedy self centered SOB... but He produces and he won a ring.. that doesn't cover all, but he does have that... with that said I can deal with him over carmelo..

misterearl wrote:How does it feel?

bonn - you are moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, selfish and one dimensional.

But that's just related to what you write so it's cool, right?

Of course not.

bonn - you are an informed and passionate Knicks fan, whose views I respect, whether I agree or not.

There is no disputing that Carmelo Anthony is a target for abuse for reasons that are grounded in bias against the successful ghetto superstar who had everything given to him and never had to work hard. His talents were bestowed at birth and his jumper was inherited from his moms. His smile is a taunt of arrogance.

His wife flaunts her sexy and sits in the front row. She is hotter than what he deserves and probably a gold digger. He held the owner of the franchise at gunpoint forcing him to sacrifice his best assets, thereby gutting the team, so he could work where he wanted. In a system of forced labor, nobody works where they want. Free will is a privilege reserved for owners, not the workers.

The media takes the parable and runs with it, noting his obscene salary at every opportunity. The return can never match the investment. Miley Cyrus has a net worth of $120 million. It's cool. She is an entertainer. She is an artist. She has it easy. The ghetto superstar must carry the burden of a franchise. The ghetto superstar is also destined to fail. According to tkf and dk7th, the inevitability of that failure is cause for celebrating defeat, boycotting the franchise, or riot.

The ghetto superstar needs to be run out of town. We need things to go back to the way they used to be back in the good old days. We should send the ol' boys to Carmelo's house to burn a cross on his lawn.

Are you serious?

azamatbagatov wrote:

misterearl wrote:How does it feel?

bonn - you are moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, selfish and one dimensional.

But that's just related to what you write so it's cool, right?

Of course not.

bonn - you are an informed and passionate Knicks fan, whose views I respect, whether I agree or not.

There is no disputing that Carmelo Anthony is a target for abuse for reasons that are grounded in bias against the successful ghetto superstar who had everything given to him and never had to work hard. His talents were bestowed at birth and his jumper was inherited from his moms. His smile is a taunt of arrogance.

His wife flaunts her sexy and sits in the front row. She is hotter than what he deserves and probably a gold digger. He held the owner of the franchise at gunpoint forcing him to sacrifice his best assets, thereby gutting the team, so he could work where he wanted. In a system of forced labor, nobody works where they want. Free will is a privilege reserved for owners, not the workers.

The media takes the parable and runs with it, noting his obscene salary at every opportunity. The return can never match the investment. Miley Cyrus has a net worth of $120 million. It's cool. She is an entertainer. She is an artist. She has it easy. The ghetto superstar must carry the burden of a franchise. The ghetto superstar is also destined to fail. According to tkf and dk7th, the inevitability of that failure is cause for celebrating defeat, boycotting the franchise, or riot.

The ghetto superstar needs to be run out of town. We need things to go back to the way they used to be back in the good old days. We should send the ol' boys to Carmelo's house to burn a cross on his lawn.

Are you serious?

this is a clear sign of waving a white flag.. bring in racism..

"...selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!"

tkf - I invite your reasoned rebuttal for justifying the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context.

azamatbagatov - your reasoned rebuttal for supporting the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context, is also respectfully requested.

Panos wrote:[yawn]

Panos - as one of The Answer Man's most ardent followers, your carefully constructed rebuttal for supporting the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context, is respectfully requested.

The forum is open.

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar

"...selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!"

tkf - I invite your reasoned rebuttal for justifying the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context.

i HAVE justified it so many times.. use google, I am sure there are plenty of TKF quotes out there..

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar

"...selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!"

tkf - I invite your reasoned rebuttal for justifying the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context.

i HAVE justified it so many times.. use google, I am sure there are plenty of TKF quotes out there..

Good answer.

Think of it this way, Carmelo Anthony adds two rebounds, and subtracts two points per game and he averages 27 and 10.

It is all a matter of perspective.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

misterearl wrote:C'mon Son!

Stop paying Dolan

Bonn - Dolan owns the team

He writes the checks.

Matt4281 - eloquently stated.

Sport is not war. We play for fun. We play for the joy of competition. We play for the comaraderie. We do not play to kill.

The artistry of the game is what makes The Answer Man smile. The extra pass. the steal and the breakaway. The 13-2 run that brings the Garden to its feet.

The process is what makes viewing enjoyable. The final score is temporary. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Andrea Bargnani will affect how the Knicks play basketball in a positive way.

Papabear Says

Misterearl some people will hate so much they can't enjoy the game and won't support the team and they call them selves fans. Now I'm not calling anyone on this forum this but do you remember a soccer team in I believe in South America lost a game in a championship round or runner up. When they got back to their country a couple of the players were murdered by so called fans because they didn't play to their liking. Hate is a bad thing. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is like that. All I am saying is that a so called fan who has so much rage and hate for a player on a team needs to check him self out or maybe get some help. I'm a die hard Knicks fan and I get upset when they loose but I do not single out a player with raging hate every time I post or almost every time I post.A fan is just a fan who should enjoy the game win or loose. It's cool to be upset win you loose. Taking a player personal all the time is sick and you need some real help no matter how well you articulate your words you are still a mental case.

What about people who have so much hate for a particular fan's style of posting here?

I don't get it either. Why do people pick on Jrod so much?

It's because I'm a right wingnut homer. We always bear the brunt of the Somber Marxist pseudo-intelligentsia hate.

You'll notice they don't even pick on me. They just don't respond.
Ignorance is the highest form of flattery around here.

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar (the sequel)

azamatbagatov - your reasoned rebuttal for supporting the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context, is also respectfully requested.

Are you insane? Where did I say I supported the vitriol towards Melo? I am just saying I don't think TKF and dk7kt aren't racist because they vehemently dislike Melo (because that is damn well what you were insinuating)

Since you are the one lobbing out accusations, I await your reasoned rebuttal proving you original statement that these 2 guys are racist for the vitriol they direct at Melo. Please provide links and other info to back up your argument. If not, just keep sticking to making horribly inaccurate predictions about the Knicks upcoming seasons

jrodmc wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

misterearl wrote:C'mon Son!

Stop paying Dolan

Bonn - Dolan owns the team

He writes the checks.

Matt4281 - eloquently stated.

Sport is not war. We play for fun. We play for the joy of competition. We play for the comaraderie. We do not play to kill.

The artistry of the game is what makes The Answer Man smile. The extra pass. the steal and the breakaway. The 13-2 run that brings the Garden to its feet.

The process is what makes viewing enjoyable. The final score is temporary. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Andrea Bargnani will affect how the Knicks play basketball in a positive way.

Papabear Says

Misterearl some people will hate so much they can't enjoy the game and won't support the team and they call them selves fans. Now I'm not calling anyone on this forum this but do you remember a soccer team in I believe in South America lost a game in a championship round or runner up. When they got back to their country a couple of the players were murdered by so called fans because they didn't play to their liking. Hate is a bad thing. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is like that. All I am saying is that a so called fan who has so much rage and hate for a player on a team needs to check him self out or maybe get some help. I'm a die hard Knicks fan and I get upset when they loose but I do not single out a player with raging hate every time I post or almost every time I post.A fan is just a fan who should enjoy the game win or loose. It's cool to be upset win you loose. Taking a player personal all the time is sick and you need some real help no matter how well you articulate your words you are still a mental case.

What about people who have so much hate for a particular fan's style of posting here?

I don't get it either. Why do people pick on Jrod so much?

It's because I'm a right wingnut homer. We always bear the brunt of the Somber Marxist pseudo-intelligentsia hate.

You'll notice they don't even pick on me. They just don't respond.
Ignorance is the highest form of flattery around here.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

misterearl wrote:C'mon Son!

Stop paying Dolan

Bonn - Dolan owns the team

He writes the checks.

Matt4281 - eloquently stated.

Sport is not war. We play for fun. We play for the joy of competition. We play for the comaraderie. We do not play to kill.

The artistry of the game is what makes The Answer Man smile. The extra pass. the steal and the breakaway. The 13-2 run that brings the Garden to its feet.

The process is what makes viewing enjoyable. The final score is temporary. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Andrea Bargnani will affect how the Knicks play basketball in a positive way.

Papabear Says

Misterearl some people will hate so much they can't enjoy the game and won't support the team and they call them selves fans. Now I'm not calling anyone on this forum this but do you remember a soccer team in I believe in South America lost a game in a championship round or runner up. When they got back to their country a couple of the players were murdered by so called fans because they didn't play to their liking. Hate is a bad thing. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is like that. All I am saying is that a so called fan who has so much rage and hate for a player on a team needs to check him self out or maybe get some help. I'm a die hard Knicks fan and I get upset when they loose but I do not single out a player with raging hate every time I post or almost every time I post.A fan is just a fan who should enjoy the game win or loose. It's cool to be upset win you loose. Taking a player personal all the time is sick and you need some real help no matter how well you articulate your words you are still a mental case.

What about people who have so much hate for a particular fan's style of posting here?

I don't get it either. Why do people pick on Jrod so much?

It's because I'm a right wingnut homer. We always bear the brunt of the Somber Marxist pseudo-intelligentsia hate.

You'll notice they don't even pick on me. They just don't respond.
Ignorance is the highest form of flattery around here.

You know he didn't seriously mean you, right?

misterearl wrote:SFX: crickets

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar

"...selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!"

tkf - I invite your reasoned rebuttal for justifying the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context.

i HAVE justified it so many times.. use google, I am sure there are plenty of TKF quotes out there..

Good answer.

Think of it this way, Carmelo Anthony adds two rebounds, and subtracts two points per game and he averages 27 and 10.

It is all a matter of perspective.

how about this, let him take 4 less shots per game,defend, set picks and keep his mouth closed.. that would be a great start.. the empty stats are just that.. empty..

azamatbagatov wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar (the sequel)

azamatbagatov - your reasoned rebuttal for supporting the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context, is also respectfully requested.

Are you insane? Where did I say I supported the vitriol towards Melo? I am just saying I don't think TKF and dk7kt aren't racist because they vehemently dislike Melo (because that is damn well what you were insinuating)

Since you are the one lobbing out accusations, I await your reasoned rebuttal proving you original statement that these 2 guys are racist for the vitriol they direct at Melo. Please provide links and other info to back up your argument. If not, just keep sticking to making horribly inaccurate predictions about the Knicks upcoming seasons

azamatbagatov - Any horribly inaccurate predictions about the Knicks upcoming seasons are for entertainment purposes only. There is no prize for predicting a season win total. Then again, 54 ain't bad.

tkf and dk7th are not racist. Their vehement dislike of Melo is biased. There is a difference. There is no doubt their resentment of the Ghetto Superstar is tinted by their views on race, like all of our views are tinted by race. The only difference is how honest one wants to be about it.

Party on.

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:SFX: crickets

tkf wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar

"...selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!"

tkf - I invite your reasoned rebuttal for justifying the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context.

i HAVE justified it so many times.. use google, I am sure there are plenty of TKF quotes out there..

Good answer.

Think of it this way, Carmelo Anthony adds two rebounds, and subtracts two points per game and he averages 27 and 10.

It is all a matter of perspective.

how about this, let him take 4 less shots per game,defend, set picks and keep his mouth closed.. that would be a great start.. the empty stats are just that.. empty..

tkf - please provide one valid reason why Carmelo Anthony should be required to keep his mouth closed.

tkf wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

DurzoBlint wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

misterearl wrote:Exactly

MaTT4281 wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

tkf wrote:
which is why my NY pride doesn't allow me to root for some selfish, wannabe, moronic, idiotic, self aggrandizing, one dimensional, coach killing, out of shape, no passing, inefficient, overpaid, team gutting, playoff losing, chucker!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I MEAN IT!

Sorry but when I see this type of rant about an athlete generally a red flag goes up. To have this deep of a hatred towards another who you do not know personally, has not materially harmed you nor performed criminal actions really speaks to a serious issue. You appear to be obsessed with Carmelo in a negative way - as if he has deeply wounded you in some way. Athletes are essentially entertainers....if you do not like the show....you are free to change the channel instead of continuing to watch only to obsess on how bad the acting is.

so long as you regard sport as primarily entertainment and athletes primarily as entertainers you won't have any standards for excellence and you will never deserve to root for a title-winning team. that pathetic piece of shyt dolan just loves folks like you.

What do you regard sports as if not entertainment?

MaTT4281 - well stated. In this case, sports... more specifically, Carmelo Anthony, appears as the target for some deep-seated resentment that has less to do with basketball and more to do with a personal prism that only sees negative light.

selfish - Melo played while injured

wannabe - wanna be like who exactly? Mike? Denzel? Who? Tom Cruise perhaps?

moronic - not unless you think representing your country in the Olympics is moronic

idiotic - see above (this is just getting silly)

self aggrandizing - name one pro player in any sport with a tiny ego. Please.

one dimensional - sorry, 29 and 8 is not one-dimensional

coach killing - cut the drama queen-isms. No coaches were killed in the filming of last years highlight reel.

out of shape - patently false. This ain't no Mr. Olympia contest. Kevin Durant is a stick figure. You gotta problem with that?

no passing - sheesh. If Carmelo passed more you would diss him for "avoiding responsibility"

inefficient - yawn

overpaid - it ain't your money

team gutting - he ain't the general manager

playoff losing - now you're just being a cry baby

chucker - okay, you can have that one

Thats what it mostly comes down to, earl.

You guys should get a room together!

hopefully they will envite me along with them. Bonn, can you honestly say that some of the Melo haters don't have a personal, deep rooted hatred for him that goes beyond basketball? Some of the posts have no bases in reality.

I don't think it goes beyond basketball - sometimes they criticize him for being chubby or greedy (not waiting to be an FA) but that's still related to basketball because of how it impacts the team. A-Rod's probably the only player in NY that gets the kind of criticism you're talking about.

And with A-rod at least he came to NY and was vital in them winning a championship.... so at least he can say that.. guess what the knicks got........

For the record, I am not a big A-rod fan at all. I actually hate that he opted out and the yanks were now on the hook for all the money texas had to pay him as part of the original deal. i think A-rod is a greedy self centered SOB... but He produces and he won a ring.. that doesn't cover all, but he does have that... with that said I can deal with him over carmelo..

misterearl wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:

misterearl wrote:The Ghetto Superstar (the sequel)

azamatbagatov - your reasoned rebuttal for supporting the vitriol that is directed towards Carmelo Anthony, with popular culture (and United States history) as the context, is also respectfully requested.

Are you insane? Where did I say I supported the vitriol towards Melo? I am just saying I don't think TKF and dk7kt aren't racist because they vehemently dislike Melo (because that is damn well what you were insinuating)

Since you are the one lobbing out accusations, I await your reasoned rebuttal proving you original statement that these 2 guys are racist for the vitriol they direct at Melo. Please provide links and other info to back up your argument. If not, just keep sticking to making horribly inaccurate predictions about the Knicks upcoming seasons

azamatbagatov - Any horribly inaccurate predictions about the Knicks upcoming seasons are for entertainment purposes only. There is no prize for predicting a season win total. Then again, 54 ain't bad.

tkf and dk7th are not racist. Their vehement dislike of Melo is biased. There is a difference. There is no doubt their resentment of the Ghetto Superstar is tinted by their views on race, like all of our views are tinted by race. The only difference is how honest one wants to be about it.

Party on.

I am pretty sure Lebron falls into the category of "ghetto superstar", I would be willing to bet if Melo was traded for Lebron today there would be 0 vitriol coming from those 2, but I will let them speak for themselves.

Partying will proceed

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Papabear wrote:

misterearl wrote:C'mon Son!

Stop paying Dolan

Bonn - Dolan owns the team

He writes the checks.

Matt4281 - eloquently stated.

Sport is not war. We play for fun. We play for the joy of competition. We play for the comaraderie. We do not play to kill.

The artistry of the game is what makes The Answer Man smile. The extra pass. the steal and the breakaway. The 13-2 run that brings the Garden to its feet.

The process is what makes viewing enjoyable. The final score is temporary. A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

Andrea Bargnani will affect how the Knicks play basketball in a positive way.

Papabear Says

Misterearl some people will hate so much they can't enjoy the game and won't support the team and they call them selves fans. Now I'm not calling anyone on this forum this but do you remember a soccer team in I believe in South America lost a game in a championship round or runner up. When they got back to their country a couple of the players were murdered by so called fans because they didn't play to their liking. Hate is a bad thing. I'm not saying anyone on this forum is like that. All I am saying is that a so called fan who has so much rage and hate for a player on a team needs to check him self out or maybe get some help. I'm a die hard Knicks fan and I get upset when they loose but I do not single out a player with raging hate every time I post or almost every time I post.A fan is just a fan who should enjoy the game win or loose. It's cool to be upset win you loose. Taking a player personal all the time is sick and you need some real help no matter how well you articulate your words you are still a mental case.

What about people who have so much hate for a particular fan's style of posting here?

I don't get it either. Why do people pick on Jrod so much?

It's because I'm a right wingnut homer. We always bear the brunt of the Somber Marxist pseudo-intelligentsia hate.

You'll notice they don't even pick on me. They just don't respond.
Ignorance is the highest form of flattery around here.

You know he didn't seriously mean you, right?

You know I'm being sarcastic, right?