Feeler rumor that he's been shopped a little.
Would you trade them Shump? Faried is still on his rookie deal
If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
EnySpree wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
emergence of hardaway? i know you cannot teach breed, but who would you rather have on your team... shumpert or hardaway? shumpert wins hands down. 4 of 16 shooting against a bad team is hardly "emergence of hardaway" for me. i'd rather do diogu + hardaway for faried.
a lineup of prigs, shump, melo/artest, faried, chandler on the floor??? oh boy. make opposing teams shiver.
Cartman718 wrote:EnySpree wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
emergence of hardaway? i know you cannot teach breed, but who would you rather have on your team... shumpert or hardaway? shumpert wins hands down. 4 of 16 shooting against a bad team is hardly "emergence of hardaway" for me. i'd rather do diogu + hardaway for faried.
a lineup of prigs, shump, melo/artest, faried, chandler on the floor??? oh boy. make opposing teams shiver.
I used the word emergence because he has proved he can play in this league. As a back up, yes. We have jr smith. Shump is not that good. He's proven that this pre season imho. It's better to keep him but for Faried he definately can go
If your going to trade Shump than this is the type of move you make.
Trading Shumpert who has the upside to become a heck of a 2way player/borderline Allstar. Our only 2way player for a shorter Tyson chandler would be a Hugh mistake. That team would not make he playoffs with Tyson and Faried as your front court. Melo will never get easy baskets as they play us 5 on 3
We have Tyson Kmart Artest. Our perimeter defense is atrocious with Felton beno THJ and JR
We have yet to see the real Shump.
But, will Shump ever be better than JR? If no then you go for a big.
The 1+1=3.
What does Faried do to make others better? Put Bargs at center at times? Can Faried lock down some players when Artest can't?
Small for big?
Forget Hardaway for a moment because we don't know his upside. I think the ROokie sits anyway for this year.
More Nuggetts for Carmelo.
Nalod wrote:
We have yet to see the real Shump.But, will Shump ever be better than JR? If no then you go for a big.
The 1+1=3.
What does Faried do to make others better? Put Bargs at center at times? Can Faried lock down some players when Artest can't?
Small for big?
Forget Hardaway for a moment because we don't know his upside. I think the ROokie sits anyway for this year.
More Nuggetts for Carmelo.
faried does not "lock down" anyone... he is a rebounding machine though, kinda like Melo for his size.
the only way i trade shump is if we get confirmation or inside news that his acl is not ready for prime time.
Why would anyone want Hickson as their PF over Faried?! Denver has well and truly lost the plot this offseason. I'd maybe trade Melo, JR, Tyson and K-Mart, plus 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders for Faried
Cartman718 wrote:Nalod wrote:
We have yet to see the real Shump.But, will Shump ever be better than JR? If no then you go for a big.
The 1+1=3.
What does Faried do to make others better? Put Bargs at center at times? Can Faried lock down some players when Artest can't?
Small for big?
Forget Hardaway for a moment because we don't know his upside. I think the ROokie sits anyway for this year.
More Nuggetts for Carmelo.
faried does not "lock down" anyone... he is a rebounding machine though, kinda like Melo for his size.
the only way i trade shump is if we get confirmation or inside news that his acl is not ready for prime time.
What do you mean "kinda like Melo." Melo's bigger than Faried (same height but heavier) but rebounds at about half the rate of Faried.
EnySpree wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
Denver actually has a roster full of guys that can justify playing time.. they need to make a trade.. but not for shumpert.. they have foye who will give them shooting, they have enough wings.. what I think they need is another PG.. A young one...
tkf wrote:EnySpree wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
Denver actually has a roster full of guys that can justify playing time.. they need to make a trade.. but not for shumpert.. they have foye who will give them shooting, they have enough wings.. what I think they need is another PG.. A young one...
They have Lawson and nate
IMO rondo goes to the knuggs or stays in Boston and they build around him
He is on the block because he can't defend his position or shoot well enough to stay on the court.
Exactly and people want to give up Shumpert for him lol
Remember when humphries and Evans averaged 10+ boards?
I'll keep Shump. And I think Faried's rebounding would really help this team. But you can find rebounding elsewhere, and with Chandler on the team ideally you'd want a more offensive minded 4. Having a shut down defensive wing player is so important in today's NBA.
But I'll also say this... if you are going to move Shump, Faried is the type of player I'd want back in return. So if Shumpert has to go for some reason, I wouldn't be opposed to this trade.
The Knicks have excess at the shooting guard and I just don't see the potential everyone else believes Shump has. I love Shump tho and I think he helps us but as a back up. I see hardaway and or Beno paying that role easy.
I see a guy like Faried penciled in at the 4 spliting minutes with Bargs. Amare and KMart are the rain I'm even taking about it.
I do find it odd the type of talent you guys expect back for a guy that's done nothing special so far except get hurt. When is the wait and see Window close for him?
EnySpree wrote:tkf wrote:EnySpree wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:If he is, which I doubt... You have to ask "why?"
Well looking at their roster they have some quality bigs. No real shooting guard and Alot of point guards.
They gave been starting Hickson. Maybe they like him over Faried and might be looking to see what they could get.
The Knicks with the emergence of hardaway and the presence and commitment to JR... Shump should be shopped too. Shump has potential but we have a need.
Denver actually has a roster full of guys that can justify playing time.. they need to make a trade.. but not for shumpert.. they have foye who will give them shooting, they have enough wings.. what I think they need is another PG.. A young one...
They have Lawson and nate
NATE more of a combo, I am actually talking about another change of pace PG that can run offense..
EnySpree wrote:The Knicks have excess at the shooting guard and I just don't see the potential everyone else believes Shump has. I love Shump tho and I think he helps us but as a back up. I see hardaway and or Beno paying that role easy.I see a guy like Faried penciled in at the 4 spliting minutes with Bargs. Amare and KMart are the rain I'm even taking about it.
I do find it odd the type of talent you guys expect back for a guy that's done nothing special so far except get hurt. When is the wait and see Window close for him?
I trade Shump for Faried but I don't think the Nuggets do it.
We can cover for loss of Shump with combined play of JR/THJR along with occasional 2 PG line-ups -- we can also add another veteran SG if needed.
Faried would be ideal off our bench -- coming into the game with KMART/STAT/METTA/THJR/PRIG/BENO and just giving us an animal on the boards and someone who will run the floor and enfuse life into the arena.
I think Faried is better at what he does (rebound/energy) than what Shump does best (defend).
Tyson
Barg
Melo
JR
Ray
KMART/Tyler
Faried/STAT
Metta
THJR/Beno
Prigs/Murry
In this case given we add a young PF -- we add a solid vet SG as our 15th man (or back-up SG) rather than add a Diago or an Aldridge.
LivingLegend wrote:EnySpree wrote:The Knicks have excess at the shooting guard and I just don't see the potential everyone else believes Shump has. I love Shump tho and I think he helps us but as a back up. I see hardaway and or Beno paying that role easy.I see a guy like Faried penciled in at the 4 spliting minutes with Bargs. Amare and KMart are the rain I'm even taking about it.
I do find it odd the type of talent you guys expect back for a guy that's done nothing special so far except get hurt. When is the wait and see Window close for him?
I trade Shump for Faried but I don't think the Nuggets do it.
We can cover for loss of Shump with combined play of JR/THJR along with occasional 2 PG line-ups -- we can also add another veteran SG if needed.
Faried would be ideal off our bench -- coming into the game with KMART/STAT/METTA/THJR/PRIG/BENO and just giving us an animal on the boards and someone who will run the floor and enfuse life into the arena.
I think Faried is better at what he does (rebound/energy) than what Shump does best (defend).
Tyson
Barg
Melo
JR
Ray
KMART/Tyler
Faried/STAT
Metta
THJR/Beno
Prigs/Murry
In this case given we add a young PF -- we add a solid vet SG as our 15th man (or back-up SG) rather than add a Diago or an Aldridge.
Good stuff man we're in agreement
