Nalod wrote:jrodmc wrote:Have the press been alerted?
They are censored!
Does playa have proof of this?
I'm still a fan because I have hope.
Isiah Thomas is still relatively young and could swoop in at any moment to right the ship. That's why I stay a fan.
fishmike wrote:djsunyc wrote:anrst wrote:he might own the team, technically, but its not his team. its our team. the team is us. the team is the fans. the fans are the team. the team is about the link between fans who share the blue and orange experience. its the shared experience -- even when bad -- that is why we stick together for the hope for an ultimate payoff that is well worth it. b/c its only worth it if you stick it out with a community.
ok...so you are describing it as a symbiotic relationship. but what if one half of that relationship really doesn't give two craps about you and every action it's taken over the past 13 years is indicative of it? why choose to remain in said relationship?
Im emotionally attached to the Knicks. However as you described above this has become an abusive relationship. So I dont go. I wont pay for games. Only time Ive gone is when I got free seats. When it gets really bad I just stop watching the sport.I probably watched 4-5 hours of baseball total this season. There was nothing really worth watching as Yankee fan except my old heroes playing out the string, which didnt interest me much. I caught a little Mariano here and there.
What makes the Knicks so tough is we have gotten tastes, little tastes of what happens when competent people are allowed to run things. Walsh turned this team around and had us one offseason away from an epic rebuild but Dolan stepped in and yacked things up.
Last year Grunwald pushed all the right buttons, guys were left alone to do their jobs and the players responded with 54 wins and round 2. Then Dolan steps in again and the team is responding.
Hope you watched the Yankee games in early September when they were having their run minus every series against the Redsox. And you are right the heroes from this winning era are leaving. Rivera, and Pettite are done and Jeter maybe done or may get a year or two out of moxy and class.
Not sure what to think of this Knick squad. Injuries, and guys coming back from surgery make this current run a bit more acceptable if they turn things around.
CrushAlot wrote:fishmike wrote:djsunyc wrote:anrst wrote:he might own the team, technically, but its not his team. its our team. the team is us. the team is the fans. the fans are the team. the team is about the link between fans who share the blue and orange experience. its the shared experience -- even when bad -- that is why we stick together for the hope for an ultimate payoff that is well worth it. b/c its only worth it if you stick it out with a community.
ok...so you are describing it as a symbiotic relationship. but what if one half of that relationship really doesn't give two craps about you and every action it's taken over the past 13 years is indicative of it? why choose to remain in said relationship?
Im emotionally attached to the Knicks. However as you described above this has become an abusive relationship. So I dont go. I wont pay for games. Only time Ive gone is when I got free seats. When it gets really bad I just stop watching the sport.I probably watched 4-5 hours of baseball total this season. There was nothing really worth watching as Yankee fan except my old heroes playing out the string, which didnt interest me much. I caught a little Mariano here and there.
What makes the Knicks so tough is we have gotten tastes, little tastes of what happens when competent people are allowed to run things. Walsh turned this team around and had us one offseason away from an epic rebuild but Dolan stepped in and yacked things up.
Last year Grunwald pushed all the right buttons, guys were left alone to do their jobs and the players responded with 54 wins and round 2. Then Dolan steps in again and the team is responding.
Hope you watched the Yankee games in early September when they were having their run minus every series against the Redsox. And you are right the heroes from this winning era are leaving. Rivera, and Pettite are done and Jeter maybe done or may get a year or two out of moxy and class.
Not sure what to think of this Knick squad. Injuries, and guys coming back from surgery make this current run a bit more acceptable if they turn things around.
Run... Run for the hills, run for your life...
Read that Times article: ugh. An arena owner & average musician getting gigs like this. From Muddy Waters and Sonny Boy Williamson to the Rockin' CEO's vanity show. But he has the right to his free time.
As do I. Outside of this forum, box scores, recaps, and fellow Knicks fans texting me "Knicks suck" from the comfort of their cable-subscribed homes, my fandom is seriously in regression. Just don't have the time or money for it. Hope to catch some games on TV (long since priced out of tickets), hope they win those games. Want to see Metta go off and watch this Hardaway kid. But the fugly orange uniforms and the uninspired play: there are way too many things competing for my attention and entertainment dollar.
I'm a true fan of only 3 teams: Mets, Knicks and the Trinidad & Tobago national football team. So I've seen a lot of early exits. Won't pull a djsunyc… but learned to find other teams to root for when my teams go fishing early.
There's always 2018!
DrAlphaeus wrote:Read that Times article: ugh. An arena owner & average musician getting gigs like this. From Muddy Waters and Sonny Boy Williamson to the Rockin' CEO's vanity show. But he has the right to his free time.As do I. Outside of this forum, box scores, recaps, and fellow Knicks fans texting me "Knicks suck" from the comfort of their cable-subscribed homes, my fandom is seriously in regression. Just don't have the time or money for it. Hope to catch some games on TV (long since priced out of tickets), hope they win those games. Want to see Metta go off and watch this Hardaway kid. But the fugly orange uniforms and the uninspired play: there are way too many things competing for my attention and entertainment dollar.
I'm a true fan of only 3 teams: Mets, Knicks and the Trinidad & Tobago national football team. So I've seen a lot of early exits. Won't pull a djsunyc… but learned to find other teams to root for when my teams go fishing early.
There's always 2018!
Doc are you not subscribing to cable? If not it might be worth checking out a streaming service called playon. It is free for a trial for two weeks. You would need an xbox, wii, playstation or roku to play it on your tv. There are plugins that stream live sports and are free. Playon uses internet streams and plays them through a device like the ones previously mentioned. You can watch the events on your tv but they are not the same resolution as what you would have if you had cable or dish.
CrushAlot wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:Read that Times article: ugh. An arena owner & average musician getting gigs like this. From Muddy Waters and Sonny Boy Williamson to the Rockin' CEO's vanity show. But he has the right to his free time.As do I. Outside of this forum, box scores, recaps, and fellow Knicks fans texting me "Knicks suck" from the comfort of their cable-subscribed homes, my fandom is seriously in regression. Just don't have the time or money for it. Hope to catch some games on TV (long since priced out of tickets), hope they win those games. Want to see Metta go off and watch this Hardaway kid. But the fugly orange uniforms and the uninspired play: there are way too many things competing for my attention and entertainment dollar.
I'm a true fan of only 3 teams: Mets, Knicks and the Trinidad & Tobago national football team. So I've seen a lot of early exits. Won't pull a djsunyc… but learned to find other teams to root for when my teams go fishing early.
There's always 2018!
Doc are you not subscribing to cable? If not it might be worth checking out a streaming service called playon. It is free for a trial for two weeks. You would need an xbox, wii, playstation or roku to play it on your tv. There are plugins that stream live sports and are free. Playon uses internet streams and plays them through a device like the ones previously mentioned. You can watch the events on your tv but they are not the same resolution as what you would have if you had cable or dish.
Yea Crush, cable ain't in the budget these days. Can you watch MSG or NBA TV with those though? I can watch the regular antenna channels, hence my season beginning on Christmas Day: first Knicks game broadcast!
Fandom, for me has very little dependancy on who is the owner. Unless , of course that said owner would kill baby seals or sponsor some other form of violence or terror. Thats where i would draw the line. So the owner is a selfish baffoon, its not enough reason to stop being a fan. Although it is rather unfortunate
ramtour420 wrote:Fandom, for me has very little dependancy on who is the owner. Unless , of course that said owner would kill baby seals or sponsor some other form of violence or terror. Thats where i would draw the line. So the owner is a selfish baffoon, its not enough reason to stop being a fan. Although it is rather unfortunate
+1
I've always wondered if Dolan would get a kick out of how many mentions he gets from "us fans-the team" on this board.
