Knicks · Melo should stick it to this team and say F*** you, you guys arent doing anything for me (page 3)

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

NYY1NYK2 wrote:He should walk

We didnt trade beno for anything............
We didnt trade shumpert..............
We just stood there while everyone made something happen

Now read this, stomp your foo, cross your arms, and look in the mirror.

Your impersonating a 13 year old girl who is upset with her parents.

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

well then let me ask you this: is melo an innocent victim of these circumstances?

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Bonn1997 wrote:Yeah, focusing on Melo is misguided but viewing the Melo trade as the one thing this franchise got right is misguided too

As you have mentioned many many times we have the worse backcourt in the league. Is that beacause of Melo? Would Jeremy Lin have helped? Pretty sure thats hurting us more now than the guy who puts up 27/8 night. Since we cant penetrate where are the shooters? Novak? Copeland?

Building around impact players and elite talent isnt misguided. Its the NBA blue print for success. Melo is not Lebron or Durant, so if you want to kill him for that go right ahead.

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Panos wrote:I wonder if Melo leaving would be the straw that breaks Dolan's back.
What will it take to get him to sell?

Your assuming he has a backbone?

Dolan is not selling a profitable and appreciating asset.

He need not sell, he need just leave it alone.

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Maybe in your world. In the real world the burden of failure falls on those who do not perform. Maybe you havent figured that out yet from mom's basement or your college dormroom but thats how it is in the real world with grownups.

you didn't answer the question i asked: is melo the innocent victim of circumstances here?

yes/no question. instead of insults and bravado howsabout you show some backbone here and answer the question?

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:I wonder if Melo leaving would be the straw that breaks Dolan's back.
What will it take to get him to sell?

Your assuming he has a backbone?

Dolan is not selling a profitable and appreciating asset.

He need not sell, he need just leave it alone.

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Maybe in your world. In the real world the burden of failure falls on those who do not perform. Maybe you havent figured that out yet from mom's basement or your college dormroom but thats how it is in the real world with grownups.

you didn't answer the question i asked: is melo the innocent victim of circumstances here?

yes/no question. instead of insults and bravado howsabout you show some backbone here and answer the question?

over/under on melo acl tear/microfracture next season?

djsunyc wrote:2015 plan?

over/under on melo acl tear/microfracture next season?

djsunyc wrote:2015 plan?

over/under on melo acl tear/microfracture next season?

Before or after signing on the dotted line?

gunsnewing wrote:

djsunyc wrote:2015 plan?

over/under on melo acl tear/microfracture next season?

Before or after signing on the dotted line?

fishmike wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Panos wrote:I wonder if Melo leaving would be the straw that breaks Dolan's back.
What will it take to get him to sell?

Your assuming he has a backbone?

Dolan is not selling a profitable and appreciating asset.

He need not sell, he need just leave it alone.

I will say one thing... If Melo doesnt resign here it should blow up this CAA/MSG thing thats going on and simply cant be good.

The lack of transparancy is true with many teams and MSG I doubt is going to share with us their strategy going forward. What Melo will or won't do won't be known until it happens. There are many handshake deals and back channel aspects to how the teams handle their business.

What boggles the mind is how awful MSG operates and how bad the knicks are given the resources both monetary and the brain power that can buy.

Dolan operates a huge complex company that is technologically advanced as is its finances. Could running a basketball team really be this hard? Can't one fathom the simple concept that winning is good, and since the team has a huge following which appears "winning" is not a prerequisite to revenue can we just put a plan togther for sustained competitiveness? If championships can't be had in the way we do busisness why not just go the route of longer term mediocrity? It would be an improvement!!!

I'll take some dark seasons if need be. If melo walks we first have to stop panicking and trading assets.
I thought under Layden we were actually doing this two years after Dice went down. Naturally Dolan panicked because the garden was dying but it was dying with older players and no public relations to sell a team in transition. Isiah came in and not only spent those assets, but leveraged. Its an old story but needs to be told because the very outcry that grew in the "Stale" garden was the very problem that patience in the mecca cannot be allowed.

Do I think Layden made mistakes? Of course. IN a word "Sweetney". Do I think Lampe and Shandon were the future? Nope. But Isiah and Marbury sure as hell was not!

Dolan kicked the cane out from Donnie and also did not allow him to hire a successor. This is the guy who kept Isiah on speed dial and tried to bring him back post Donnie.

I fear this man but also try to look at what is with some hope. Mills might not be a basketball man, nor was he able to manage AnuchaGate but we all know Dolan runs the show. Mills is an educated man and one that might not be able to scout well (we have other people do that) but he might be the intelligent person who brings a savvy approach.

We can hope. THats about it.

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Maybe in your world. In the real world the burden of failure falls on those who do not perform. Maybe you havent figured that out yet from mom's basement or your college dormroom but thats how it is in the real world with grownups.

you didn't answer the question i asked: is melo the innocent victim of circumstances here?

yes/no question. instead of insults and bravado howsabout you show some backbone here and answer the question?

its stupid question. Victim of what? Open your eyes and look at the team and the organization. You need me to tell you what you see?

how is a valid question seen as stupid? you're just being evasive. it's really kind of chickenish.

let me dumb things down for you:

did he play out his contract and wait for free agency? no

did he force a trade out of denver by saying he would not extend? yes

was he afraid of losing money if he did not force a trade, not really caring where he ended up? yes

is thinking about money first and foremost above winning considered greedy and selfish? yes

does he understand that the raw millions he stood to lose were really only a small percentage of his overall earnings? no

did he get signed by dolan knowing in advance that it would take a few seasons to rebuild? yes

is "rebuilding" a different concept or process from "win-now"? yes

did he make any decisions during the whole process of going from denver to new york? yes

so you see he is not an innocent victim.

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:Melo era or the Donnie-MDA-Amare-Clusterfcuk..

i choose to see matters as actions and reactions, not simply discrete events in separate vacuums.

you are trying to separate the melo era from the walsh/mda/amare one. that just won't fly. if you didn't like the donnie/mda/amare clusterfuck then you have to absolutely loathe the melo deal which simply compounded the problem, ie made it exponentially worse. the fact that you don't loathe it at this juncture of unqualified and epic fail shows very narrow thinking, perhaps even dishonesty... and for what? to protect poor carmelo anthony?

No, it's the fact that you ignore the totality of the problem...And you focus on what u deem the be a singular issue..Who is living in a vacuum..U also seem to want to give certain player in this play a pass...Problem is that you are afraid of the tough questions..U run away when the heat is turned up...U also have a single tone...Melo...

no. "the totality" of the problem ignores a timeline of cause and effect, or in this case the commission of a mistake and then compounding that first mistake with another one, making matters even worse, many times worse. there was a discrete series of events, accompanied by a discrete set of decisions, decided on by a discrete set of persons. by trying to lump everything together into one big mess is a very weak sauce attempt to deflect responsibility from the culprit. and so the heat is on those who still refuse to see carmelo anthony as a core problem for the knicks. the record speaks for itself.

The fact that you identify Melo as the core to a problem thats decades old just proves the point that many on this board have already called you out on. You post in a vacuum and as Holfresh eloquently stated....You have a single tone...MELO....

its painfully easy to see. A caveman could see it. All the coaches from Chaney, Lenny, Larry, Isiah, Herb, MDA, Woody... all the stupid trades and bad players and contracts that have been brought in which translate into more losing than before... and this is the guy he chooses to focus on?

yea.. no blind agenda there

We have the worst backcourt in the league. This is proven by stats. Yet this donkee points to the only guy on the team that gives us a chance to win every night. "The record speaks for itself..." funny.

the burden of failure falls on the shoulders of he who is paid the most money and who has cost the team the most assets.

same question as before: is melo an innocent victim of circumstances here?

Maybe in your world. In the real world the burden of failure falls on those who do not perform. Maybe you havent figured that out yet from mom's basement or your college dormroom but thats how it is in the real world with grownups.

you didn't answer the question i asked: is melo the innocent victim of circumstances here?

yes/no question. instead of insults and bravado howsabout you show some backbone here and answer the question?

its stupid question. Victim of what? Open your eyes and look at the team and the organization. You need me to tell you what you see?

how is a valid question seen as stupid? you're just being evasive. it's really kind of chickenish.

let me dumb things down for you:

did he play out his contract and wait for free agency? no

did he force a trade out of denver by saying he would not extend? yes

was he afraid of losing money if he did not force a trade, not really caring where he ended up? yes

is thinking about money first and foremost above winning considered greedy and selfish? yes

does he understand that the raw millions he stood to lose were really only a small percentage of his overall earnings? no

did he get signed by dolan knowing in advance that it would take a few seasons to rebuild? yes

is "rebuilding" a different concept or process from "win-now"? yes

did he make any decisions during the whole process of going from denver to new york? yes

so you see he is not an innocent victim.