Knicks · Broussard: Noah recruiting Melo to Chicago.... (page 1)

holfresh @ 3/6/2014 12:46 PM
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Is Carmelo Anthony recruita-Bull?

ESPN's Chris Broussard reports that Chicago center Joakim Noah tried to sell Carmelo on the idea of joining the Bulls in free agency, citing a source with knowledge of the conversation.

Broussard reports that Noah told Anthony over All-Star weekend, "Look, you could go to Los Angeles but ... if you want to win a ring, come to Chicago."

Anthony didn't offer any guarantees, Broussard reports.

But he did say that he admires how "hard" Noah and the Bulls play and how "hungry" they are. Anthony also added that Derrick Rose is his son's favorite player. Read into that what you will.

Any conversation Noah had with Anthony about coming to Chicago would, of course, be against NBA rules.

NBA players aren't permitted to recruit any other player under contract to play for their team. Though, it should be noted, that any violation of the tampering rule is extremely hard to prove.

Either way, Chicago is one of the most logical destinations for Anthony if he chooses to leave New York in free agency this summer.

The Bulls would have to cut a significant amount from their payroll to have enough salary-cap space to afford Anthony. They could also land Anthony in a sign-and-trade involving Carlos Boozer's expiring contract.

In order to create enough space to sign Anthony, the Bulls would have to amnesty Boozer and then trade either Taj Gibson or Noah to a team that could absorb the salary in order to have enough space to sign Anthony to anything close to a max contract.

Gibson is more likely to be moved if the Bulls were forced to choose between the two bigs. But the feeling from those who cover the Bulls regularly is that it's a long shot at best that the Bulls will clear enough space to land Anthony.

So Anthony would either have to agree to sign a contract worth less than max money or work out a sign-and-trade to land in Chicago.

For what it's worth, Carmelo has said that his first priority is to re-sign with the Knicks, who can offer him a max contract worth $33 million more and one year longer than any other team.

But he's also said he'd be willing to take less money from the Knicks or another team if it meant allowing them to attract other free agents.

The Bulls, with Rose, Noah and coach Tom Thibodeau, would have a nucleus in place to compete for a title.

The Knicks don't currently have the pieces in place to contend. Their hope is to rebuild in the summer of 2015 and surround Anthony with enough talent to make a run in the 2015-16 season.

fishmike @ 3/6/2014 12:52 PM
yea.. read that this morning. If Rose is 80% thats a title caliber team.
gunsnewing @ 3/6/2014 12:52 PM
I was gonna post this. Heard it on the radio. Hope it's true. Noah was recruiting Melo during the Allstar break and melo's kids love Derrick Rose
knicks1248 @ 3/6/2014 1:13 PM
did noah also mention that they would have to shake up there core, or the fact that rose is coming off of 2 major injuries, thibs might be gone..and rose may look to play else where..Also the bulls have been talking rebuid mode
Clean @ 3/6/2014 1:25 PM
I personally don't care about the recruiting. It would be funny for Dolan to do all these favors for CAA only to have melo leave at the first opportunity.
gunsnewing @ 3/6/2014 1:26 PM
Funny and poetic
franco12 @ 3/6/2014 1:55 PM
Funnier still if Melo went and the Bulls ended up trading Noah to make room for him!
Allanfan20 @ 3/6/2014 1:57 PM
^The Bulls would be f'ed.
NYKBocker @ 3/6/2014 2:30 PM
Please leave. This happening might wake up Dolan to stop messing with this team. Eh...probably not.
smackeddog @ 3/6/2014 3:58 PM
I hope it's true, just because it might mean we get something rather than nothing when melo walks. I just don't see how Rose and Melo can play to ether though- I just don't see it.
gunsnewing @ 3/6/2014 4:01 PM
Melo is not going to stick around for another year like this one. He will leave or force Dolan into making more bonehead bandaid moves that will set us back for decades
franco12 @ 3/6/2014 4:08 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is not going to stick around for another year like this one. He will leave or force Dolan into making more bonehead bandaid moves that will set us back for decades

And I bet Melo is smart enough to sniff a bonehead bandaid move a mile away, and will de-rat rather than sink with Doolan.

yellowboy90 @ 3/6/2014 4:10 PM
This is a false report. We have been told at length how players like Melo but don't like to play with Melo or is it they don' like to play for Dolan unless he over pays?
dk7th @ 3/6/2014 5:02 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is not going to stick around for another year like this one. He will leave or force Dolan into making more bonehead bandaid moves that will set us back for decades

or he could do the right thing and ask for 12-13 million a year since he wanted to be here in the first place but allowed greed to cloud his judgement.

history will not be kind to him if he leaves. i wonder if he cares?

DrAlphaeus @ 3/6/2014 6:45 PM
Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?

TeamBall @ 3/6/2014 6:47 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?


Don't know much about the Bulls but my buddy from Chicago says Thibs would definitely get on Melo if he's not playing how he should and, unlike here, Thibs has the backing of the higher ups and won't have to take it easier on some guys more than others for fear of being fired.
holfresh @ 3/6/2014 6:54 PM
dk7th wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Melo is not going to stick around for another year like this one. He will leave or force Dolan into making more bonehead bandaid moves that will set us back for decades

or he could do the right thing and ask for 12-13 million a year since he wanted to be here in the first place but allowed greed to cloud his judgement.

history will not be kind to him if he leaves. i wonder if he cares?

U sound like u will be disappointed if he leaves, shocker...

mreinman @ 3/6/2014 6:56 PM
TeamBall wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?


Don't know much about the Bulls but my buddy from Chicago says Thibs would definitely get on Melo if he's not playing how he should and, unlike here, Thibs has the backing of the higher ups and won't have to take it easier on some guys more than others for fear of being fired.

Maybe if Melo really had to hustle for Thibs it would be too hard for him and his game will suffer.

TeamBall @ 3/6/2014 7:24 PM
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?


Don't know much about the Bulls but my buddy from Chicago says Thibs would definitely get on Melo if he's not playing how he should and, unlike here, Thibs has the backing of the higher ups and won't have to take it easier on some guys more than others for fear of being fired.

Maybe if Melo really had to hustle for Thibs it would be too hard for him and his game will suffer.


Well I don't know about that. I'm just saying that he'd truly be able to be held accountable unlike here.
mreinman @ 3/6/2014 7:30 PM
TeamBall wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?


Don't know much about the Bulls but my buddy from Chicago says Thibs would definitely get on Melo if he's not playing how he should and, unlike here, Thibs has the backing of the higher ups and won't have to take it easier on some guys more than others for fear of being fired.

Maybe if Melo really had to hustle for Thibs it would be too hard for him and his game will suffer.


Well I don't know about that. I'm just saying that he'd truly be able to be held accountable unlike here.

Nobody is changing him. Karl tried when Melo was young. He is who he is.

Now, surround him with good to very good players and he can win.

He has become such a lethal 3 point shooter now, he just needs someone who can create and dish for/to him.

Also, 35 minutes a game (max) should help him.

TeamBall @ 3/6/2014 7:40 PM
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
mreinman wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
DrAlphaeus wrote:Man, Melo really has the keys, doesn't he? He's had the kind of numbers and health you want going into a contract year. A nice handful of options. From what I'm reading, front runners are Lakers, Bulls, Knicks: all NBA flagships. He can handle the media in any of them. Hard to see him go to a smaller market, the big city helps his bottom line too. Can he play for or Thibs though?

What is the best kind of coach for a guy like Melo anyway?

I really can't fault him for getting his money in the first place. Now he's entering his 30s, we'll see if he thinking about history. You know his old Cuse coach wants him to get some rings. Can he get there with the Knicks?


Don't know much about the Bulls but my buddy from Chicago says Thibs would definitely get on Melo if he's not playing how he should and, unlike here, Thibs has the backing of the higher ups and won't have to take it easier on some guys more than others for fear of being fired.

Maybe if Melo really had to hustle for Thibs it would be too hard for him and his game will suffer.


Well I don't know about that. I'm just saying that he'd truly be able to be held accountable unlike here.

Nobody is changing him. Karl tried when Melo was young. He is who he is.

Now, surround him with good to very good players and he can win.

He has become such a lethal 3 point shooter now, he just needs someone who can create and dish for/to him.

Also, 35 minutes a game (max) should help him.


Well I was speaking more to the point that Thibs is a no nonsense coach and he'd enforce his system/importance on defense. It's just different from what would happen here.
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