Knicks · Source: Melo may take less money and re-sign with Knicks (page 1)
http://nypost.com/2014/07/04/source-melo...
The Knicks believe they have satisfied almost all of Carmelo Anthony’s concerns, and now wait to see if they will be crowned champions of the Melo Sweepstakes. Anthony is expected to make his decision sometime this weekend and the Knicks remain the clear favorites.Another boost in the Knicks’ chances took place Friday, when the Bulls moved to blow even more cap space by beginning negotiations with European draft prospect Nikola Mirotic — a sign Chicago realizes its chances of landing Anthony are slim. The Bulls would no longer be able to sign Anthony with their remaining cap room.
Knicks president Phil Jackson told Anthony during Thursday night’s meeting in Los Angeles he can have the team’s maximum 5-year, $129 million contract if he wishes. But The Post has learned there’s a distinct possibility Anthony will still decide to take a little less than the max.
One scenario would be Anthony starting at the max $22.4 million, but taking a 7.5 percent pay reduction in Year 2, as allowed by the collective bargaining agreement. That reduced salary for the 2015-16 season would give the Knicks a little more cap space next summer.
Jackson has said he prefers for Anthony to take less than the max to give him more salary-cap flexibility in 2015 and 2016 to sign free agents.
A source close to Anthony said he has confidence Jackson and general manager Steve Mills will make the Knicks top-flight contenders in the future, but was unsure about their ability to upgrade the team for this season. Anthony didn’t want to go through another 37-45 campaign.
“I don’t think the money ever was the most important part,’’ the source said. “I think his concern was, could they make the team better this season? He is comfortable in the outer years, but needed to be convinced about the upcoming year.’’
That’s why Anthony is trying to take an active role in recruiting free agent Pau Gasol, though the Knicks only have their $3.3 million mini mid-level exception. Gasol has been heavily courted by the Heat, Thunder and Bulls. One scenario would be convincing Gasol to sign for one year, then allowing him to share in the 2015 cap space with his brother, center Marc Gasol, who will be a free agent.
Anthony liked the hiring of Derek Fisher as coach, along with the trade with the Mavericks, in which the Knicks upgraded the point guard position with Jose Calderon — a friend of the Gasols — and young Shane Larkin, while adding a potential scorer off the bench in second-round steal Cleanthony Early.
Anthony has met with Jackson three times since the season ended. A Yahoo! Sports report on Friday called the two “aligned with their vision.’’
The source close to Anthony told The Post on Friday that family is also a factor in potentially staying in New York. The Post has reported Anthony’s Brooklyn-raised wife La La Vasquez doesn’t want him to leave the Knicks after she was a driving force in the trade that brought him to New York from Denver in 2011.
Perhaps the only person who could gum up the works with the Knicks is LeBron James, whose demand for the maximum salary could push Chris Bosh off to the Rockets or Mavericks. Bosh already has engaged in talks with Houston. If Bosh bolts, that could open a South Beach spot for Anthony in a new Big Three.
In addition, Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak met in Cleveland on Friday with James’ agent, and has floated the idea of pairing Anthony and James in Los Angeles by opening even more cap space. However, both scenarios figure to be too long a process for Anthony.
Meanwhile, the Bulls almost assuredly need a sign-and-trade with the Knicks to make an Anthony addition happen — and Jackson isn’t willing. During Tuesday’s meeting, the Bulls proposed Anthony taking about $16 million per over four years after maneuvering. But signing Mirotic will make that figure even lower. According to the Chicago Tribune, Joakim Noah has told confidants Anthony likely will re-sign with the Knicks.
The Rockets are intriguing with near-max cap space if they trade Jeremy Lin to the Sixers, but Anthony’s title hopes would be tougher in the Western conference. The Mavericks are long shots after re-signing Dirk Nowitzki to a three-year, $30 million deal and ESPN Dallas stated the Mavs told Anthony he would make about $18 million per season— far short of the Knicks’ $22.4 million offer.
The idea Anthony would be forgoing a chance at winning a title next season is misleading. Of the four teams he visited, three were bounced out in the first round of the playoffs (Bulls, Rockets, Mavericks) and the other club, the Lakers, didn’t qualify. A source connected to Anthony’s inner circle told The Post Monday, “There’s reason to believe he’s staying.’’
BRIGGS wrote:I said this the other day if Melo can sign for just a tad less and take that 15% in yr 2 we can probably sign another max FA in 2015. Well have just as good a chance to win the east as anyone else next year with melo back and our new roster
I doubt Melo wants to hurt the team's chances to be competitive when he made such a big deal of being on a contender. Might have just wanted to be be offered the max as a vote of confidence from Jackson. If the end result is that he takes less money and helps us free up some room to get a big ticket FA, and or some top notch role players, then its its no big deal IMO.
According to the Chicago Tribune, Joakim Noah has told confidants Anthony likely will re-sign with the Knicks.I thought this was interesting as well.
CrushAlot wrote:On a side note Berman has been the man this offseason. He has broken news and has had tidbits in his articles long before other guys. I wonder if Phil and his media policy has helped him out. His stuff hasn't been good for awhile in my opinion.
Didn't know that, its been a while since I gave his stuff any weight but even a broken clock....
Good to know, maybe this will happen. Should know soon enough.
GustavBahler wrote:Its Berman, so take it for what its worth...http://nypost.com/2014/07/04/source-melo...
The Knicks believe they have satisfied almost all of Carmelo Anthony’s concerns, and now wait to see if they will be crowned champions of the Melo Sweepstakes. Anthony is expected to make his decision sometime this weekend and the Knicks remain the clear favorites.Another boost in the Knicks’ chances took place Friday, when the Bulls moved to blow even more cap space by beginning negotiations with European draft prospect Nikola Mirotic — a sign Chicago realizes its chances of landing Anthony are slim. The Bulls would no longer be able to sign Anthony with their remaining cap room.
Knicks president Phil Jackson told Anthony during Thursday night’s meeting in Los Angeles he can have the team’s maximum 5-year, $129 million contract if he wishes. But The Post has learned there’s a distinct possibility Anthony will still decide to take a little less than the max.
One scenario would be Anthony starting at the max $22.4 million, but taking a 7.5 percent pay reduction in Year 2, as allowed by the collective bargaining agreement. That reduced salary for the 2015-16 season would give the Knicks a little more cap space next summer.
Jackson has said he prefers for Anthony to take less than the max to give him more salary-cap flexibility in 2015 and 2016 to sign free agents.
A source close to Anthony said he has confidence Jackson and general manager Steve Mills will make the Knicks top-flight contenders in the future, but was unsure about their ability to upgrade the team for this season. Anthony didn’t want to go through another 37-45 campaign.
“I don’t think the money ever was the most important part,’’ the source said. “I think his concern was, could they make the team better this season? He is comfortable in the outer years, but needed to be convinced about the upcoming year.’’
That’s why Anthony is trying to take an active role in recruiting free agent Pau Gasol, though the Knicks only have their $3.3 million mini mid-level exception. Gasol has been heavily courted by the Heat, Thunder and Bulls. One scenario would be convincing Gasol to sign for one year, then allowing him to share in the 2015 cap space with his brother, center Marc Gasol, who will be a free agent.
Anthony liked the hiring of Derek Fisher as coach, along with the trade with the Mavericks, in which the Knicks upgraded the point guard position with Jose Calderon — a friend of the Gasols — and young Shane Larkin, while adding a potential scorer off the bench in second-round steal Cleanthony Early.
Anthony has met with Jackson three times since the season ended. A Yahoo! Sports report on Friday called the two “aligned with their vision.’’
The source close to Anthony told The Post on Friday that family is also a factor in potentially staying in New York. The Post has reported Anthony’s Brooklyn-raised wife La La Vasquez doesn’t want him to leave the Knicks after she was a driving force in the trade that brought him to New York from Denver in 2011.
Perhaps the only person who could gum up the works with the Knicks is LeBron James, whose demand for the maximum salary could push Chris Bosh off to the Rockets or Mavericks. Bosh already has engaged in talks with Houston. If Bosh bolts, that could open a South Beach spot for Anthony in a new Big Three.
In addition, Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak met in Cleveland on Friday with James’ agent, and has floated the idea of pairing Anthony and James in Los Angeles by opening even more cap space. However, both scenarios figure to be too long a process for Anthony.
Meanwhile, the Bulls almost assuredly need a sign-and-trade with the Knicks to make an Anthony addition happen — and Jackson isn’t willing. During Tuesday’s meeting, the Bulls proposed Anthony taking about $16 million per over four years after maneuvering. But signing Mirotic will make that figure even lower. According to the Chicago Tribune, Joakim Noah has told confidants Anthony likely will re-sign with the Knicks.
The Rockets are intriguing with near-max cap space if they trade Jeremy Lin to the Sixers, but Anthony’s title hopes would be tougher in the Western conference. The Mavericks are long shots after re-signing Dirk Nowitzki to a three-year, $30 million deal and ESPN Dallas stated the Mavs told Anthony he would make about $18 million per season— far short of the Knicks’ $22.4 million offer.
The idea Anthony would be forgoing a chance at winning a title next season is misleading. Of the four teams he visited, three were bounced out in the first round of the playoffs (Bulls, Rockets, Mavericks) and the other club, the Lakers, didn’t qualify. A source connected to Anthony’s inner circle told The Post Monday, “There’s reason to believe he’s staying.’’
A source close to the Anthony's camp said, "Anthony has been reading a lot of DK posts and recognize that he needed to take less."
CrushAlot wrote:On a side note Berman has been the man this offseason. He has broken news and has had tidbits in his articles long before other guys. I wonder if Phil and his media policy has helped him out. His stuff hasn't been good for awhile in my opinion.
good call, gonna watch this
yellowboy90 wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Its Berman, so take it for what its worth...http://nypost.com/2014/07/04/source-melo...
The Knicks believe they have satisfied almost all of Carmelo Anthony’s concerns, and now wait to see if they will be crowned champions of the Melo Sweepstakes. Anthony is expected to make his decision sometime this weekend and the Knicks remain the clear favorites.Another boost in the Knicks’ chances took place Friday, when the Bulls moved to blow even more cap space by beginning negotiations with European draft prospect Nikola Mirotic — a sign Chicago realizes its chances of landing Anthony are slim. The Bulls would no longer be able to sign Anthony with their remaining cap room.
Knicks president Phil Jackson told Anthony during Thursday night’s meeting in Los Angeles he can have the team’s maximum 5-year, $129 million contract if he wishes. But The Post has learned there’s a distinct possibility Anthony will still decide to take a little less than the max.
One scenario would be Anthony starting at the max $22.4 million, but taking a 7.5 percent pay reduction in Year 2, as allowed by the collective bargaining agreement. That reduced salary for the 2015-16 season would give the Knicks a little more cap space next summer.
Jackson has said he prefers for Anthony to take less than the max to give him more salary-cap flexibility in 2015 and 2016 to sign free agents.
A source close to Anthony said he has confidence Jackson and general manager Steve Mills will make the Knicks top-flight contenders in the future, but was unsure about their ability to upgrade the team for this season. Anthony didn’t want to go through another 37-45 campaign.
“I don’t think the money ever was the most important part,’’ the source said. “I think his concern was, could they make the team better this season? He is comfortable in the outer years, but needed to be convinced about the upcoming year.’’
That’s why Anthony is trying to take an active role in recruiting free agent Pau Gasol, though the Knicks only have their $3.3 million mini mid-level exception. Gasol has been heavily courted by the Heat, Thunder and Bulls. One scenario would be convincing Gasol to sign for one year, then allowing him to share in the 2015 cap space with his brother, center Marc Gasol, who will be a free agent.
Anthony liked the hiring of Derek Fisher as coach, along with the trade with the Mavericks, in which the Knicks upgraded the point guard position with Jose Calderon — a friend of the Gasols — and young Shane Larkin, while adding a potential scorer off the bench in second-round steal Cleanthony Early.
Anthony has met with Jackson three times since the season ended. A Yahoo! Sports report on Friday called the two “aligned with their vision.’’
The source close to Anthony told The Post on Friday that family is also a factor in potentially staying in New York. The Post has reported Anthony’s Brooklyn-raised wife La La Vasquez doesn’t want him to leave the Knicks after she was a driving force in the trade that brought him to New York from Denver in 2011.
Perhaps the only person who could gum up the works with the Knicks is LeBron James, whose demand for the maximum salary could push Chris Bosh off to the Rockets or Mavericks. Bosh already has engaged in talks with Houston. If Bosh bolts, that could open a South Beach spot for Anthony in a new Big Three.
In addition, Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak met in Cleveland on Friday with James’ agent, and has floated the idea of pairing Anthony and James in Los Angeles by opening even more cap space. However, both scenarios figure to be too long a process for Anthony.
Meanwhile, the Bulls almost assuredly need a sign-and-trade with the Knicks to make an Anthony addition happen — and Jackson isn’t willing. During Tuesday’s meeting, the Bulls proposed Anthony taking about $16 million per over four years after maneuvering. But signing Mirotic will make that figure even lower. According to the Chicago Tribune, Joakim Noah has told confidants Anthony likely will re-sign with the Knicks.
The Rockets are intriguing with near-max cap space if they trade Jeremy Lin to the Sixers, but Anthony’s title hopes would be tougher in the Western conference. The Mavericks are long shots after re-signing Dirk Nowitzki to a three-year, $30 million deal and ESPN Dallas stated the Mavs told Anthony he would make about $18 million per season— far short of the Knicks’ $22.4 million offer.
The idea Anthony would be forgoing a chance at winning a title next season is misleading. Of the four teams he visited, three were bounced out in the first round of the playoffs (Bulls, Rockets, Mavericks) and the other club, the Lakers, didn’t qualify. A source connected to Anthony’s inner circle told The Post Monday, “There’s reason to believe he’s staying.’’
A source close to the Anthony's camp said, "Anthony has been reading a lot of DK posts and recognize that he needed to take less."
LOL!
CrushAlot wrote:According to the Chicago Tribune, Joakim Noah has told confidants Anthony likely will re-sign with the Knicks.I thought this was interesting as well.
Time for Noah to face facts...lol.
But probably $22-26m
Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.
Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.
So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.
newyorknewyork wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.
So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.
I agree, thats probably what happened.
Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.
you have no conception how much 129 million is.
that's $64,500,000 per shoulder.
that's $314,635 per game.
that's $8740 per minute assuming 36 minutes on the floor.
that's $146 per second.
if he agreed to a 33% discount to help the team, he makes 86,430,000, another dollar amount you have no conception of.
that's $43,215,000 per shoulder.
that's $210,805 per game.
that's $5856 per minute.
that's $98 per second.
i look at 146 dollars per second as drowning in money.
i look at 98 dollars per second exactly the same way!
GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Something doesn't make sense. It's reported that Melo was offered the max but he would take less. Something is missing bc if he was offered the max, he should take it. If the Knicks don't care about the cap space, why should he? I'm sure Melo loves the team and is a dammed decent guy but I would never do that if I were him. I am just talking about his point of view though. If I were the Knicks, I would never offer him a max contract.Phil probably explained multiple scenarios. One with him taking the max and another with him taking a smaller salary. Phil probably showed the potential options he would have if Melo took less.
So while the max is on the table, he probably gave Melo something to think about.
I agree, thats probably what happened.
I may be way off but here's what I think may be happening. The Knicks have not made any offers to Melo. Instead Phil had discussed various scenarios with him of how the team would be built at various price levels for him. Then he has asked Melo to come back worth what he thinks is the right price for himself and the best approach to build a contender. We are not committed to anything yet but we haven't taken anything of the table either. Once Melo comes back we can agree to what he wants, make a counter offer or move on.