I can't fathom Rondo as a knick. Wrong guy for a young coach. Wrong guy to spread the offense. Wrong guy for his teammates.
He should go pair up with Kobe and drive each other nuts.
I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
Monroe has MUCH more value than that
NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
You sound employable.
getting on the phone now with Zen Bob to recommend your handling of aforementioned negotiatios
mreinman wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
Monroe has MUCH more value than that
Trades aren't about value and talent. They are about what you can leverage. It's how Denver could get Aaron Afflalo for cents on the dollar and why the Sixers couldn't get anything for Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner. Because Greg Monroe is a looming UNRESTRICTED free agent, the Pistons lack any kind of leveraging power, especially since it is no secret that Monroe isn't thrilled with the idea of staying in Detriot. I suspect he gets moved before the deadline and I wouldn't be surprised if it was to us.
NardDogNation wrote:mreinman wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
Monroe has MUCH more value than that
Trades aren't about value and talent. They are about what you can leverage. It's how Denver could get Aaron Afflalo for cents on the dollar and why the Sixers couldn't get anything for Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner. Because Greg Monroe is a looming UNRESTRICTED free agent, the Pistons lack any kind of leveraging power, especially since it is no secret that Monroe isn't thrilled with the idea of staying in Detriot. I suspect he gets moved before the deadline and I wouldn't be surprised if it was to us.
And the fact Monroe has a right to veto any trade, and his bird rights can't be traded, diminishes the Pistons options further.
NardDogNation wrote:mreinman wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
Monroe has MUCH more value than that
Trades aren't about value and talent. They are about what you can leverage. It's how Denver could get Aaron Afflalo for cents on the dollar and why the Sixers couldn't get anything for Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner. Because Greg Monroe is a looming UNRESTRICTED free agent, the Pistons lack any kind of leveraging power, especially since it is no secret that Monroe isn't thrilled with the idea of staying in Detriot. I suspect he gets moved before the deadline and I wouldn't be surprised if it was to us.
Since he accepted a qualifying offer, Monroe can veto any trade so presumably he will allow a trade to a team he theoretically wants to resign with. However, the team who acquires him, per the CBA, LOSES his Bird rights. Maybe Im not understanding something here, but isn't it greatly advantageous for both parties in a deal for the team who is signing the free agent to own the Bird rights? Wouldn't Monroe stand to lose money and/or potential years on the deal if the team who trades for him doesn't own his Bird rights?
H1AND1 wrote:NardDogNation wrote:mreinman wrote:NardDogNation wrote:I think we could trade Jason Smith and filler for Greg Monroe and that'd work. No one is giving up anything of value for a guy they could sign outright in a few months. And rather than lose him for nothing, I see the Pistons acquiescing and taking what they can get. Jason Smith is a really solid player (one I'd prefer to keep) that would strengthen their big man depth off the bench AND add some veteran knowhow to an otherwise young roster. His addition falls in line with the culture of acquisitions Stan Van Gundy has made (e.g. Caron Butler, DJ Augustin, Jodie Meeks and Aaron Grey). It'd be the exact same trade the Sixers made when they dumped Evan Turner and Spencer Hawes for nothing, just before last year's deadline.
Monroe has MUCH more value than that
Trades aren't about value and talent. They are about what you can leverage. It's how Denver could get Aaron Afflalo for cents on the dollar and why the Sixers couldn't get anything for Spencer Hawes and Evan Turner. Because Greg Monroe is a looming UNRESTRICTED free agent, the Pistons lack any kind of leveraging power, especially since it is no secret that Monroe isn't thrilled with the idea of staying in Detriot. I suspect he gets moved before the deadline and I wouldn't be surprised if it was to us.
Since he accepted a qualifying offer, Monroe can veto any trade so presumably he will allow a trade to a team he theoretically wants to resign with. However, the team who acquires him, per the CBA, LOSES his Bird rights. Maybe Im not understanding something here, but isn't it greatly advantageous for both parties in a deal for the team who is signing the free agent to own the Bird rights? Wouldn't Monroe stand to lose money and/or potential years on the deal if the team who trades for him doesn't own his Bird rights?
From what I can gather from earlier posts, he loses his bird rights if traded. So basically only a team who would have the cap space free in the offseason would want to trade for him, and even then they have no advantage what so ever trading anything of value for him, because they may as well wait until he offseason and sign him outright.
