Knicks · "Don't Leave Money On Table" & "Not On My Dime" (page 1)

Very Recent Washington Post Article

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/ami...

Anthony has shielded his son from those anxieties because of his ability to put a basketball through a hoop, but he is now looking to transition into other fields, to build the kind of “generational wealth” that will sustain Kiyan and hopefully Kiyan’s grandchildren.

“These are the conversations that people I’m around are having,” Anthony said.

Anthony resisted the chance to play for a title contender in Chicago and re-signed with the Knicks for $124 million in July, a choice that cast him as greedy to his critics and perhaps placed him in basketball purgatory for at least one year. Though he described the decision to stay as “tough,” Anthony banked nearly $50 million more in New York than he could have made with the Bulls. By siding with the only real guarantee in the NBA — the guaranteed contract — Anthony made a long-term business decision over a logical basketball one.

“Regardless of what happened, it would all come down to the money. That’s just the life we live. You can’t escape that,” said Anthony, who admits his attitude in previous contracts was “don’t leave no money on the table.”

Anthony has averaged at least 20 points a game in every season, but he understands the team failings will inevitably fall on him. “At the end of the day, we all know what the goal is, and that’s to win a championship,” Anthony said, “I know that I’m a winner. Even though you might lose some games here or there, I know I’m a winner. I’ve won already. I’ve won off the court and on the court. I’m living the American dream. That’s winning to me. Nobody can say anything about being a loser.”

Never having much growing up made Anthony eager to take all he can get from the NBA. Though he claims a lack of awareness with the collective bargaining agreement led him to sign a five-year extension instead of a three-year extension in 2006, his decision also was the result of thinking he was going to be a Nugget for the duration of his deal.

“I was happy in Denver. I was having fun in Denver,” he said. “You start getting smarter, you start getting wiser [and] you start realizing we can’t have this team forever. Key guys’ contracts are up; we can’t sign everybody back. I was thinking, ‘I don’t want to rebuild on my dime.’ ”

We've adjusted to his greed and really the greed of all players

But this is what he said the past 2-3yrs or so once he got here and embarked on getting paid again

This link here is an earlier source 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/05/sports...

“It’s been a long season, but a short season at the same time,” Anthony said when asked to reflect on the lockout-shortened 2011-12 season.

He added: “For us to end the season on a good note, going into the playoffs, we want to build off that,” he added.

With all eyes on the Knicks’ future, Anthony and Allan Houston, the Knicks assistant general manager, declined to speculate on specifics.

“I think that’s why I’m not the G.M.,” Anthony said. “I can’t really pinpoint one thing. I think where we started at and what we’ve created with myself, Amar’e and Tyson, we want to build around that,” referring to Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.

This link here is an earlier source 2013
http://www.sportsworldreport.com/article...

Anthony has been watching first-hand as the Miami Heat continue to dominate. After winning two championships, they are in the mix for a third. A large part of that is because the Big 3 cam together in free agency. While interviewing with NBA TV, Anthony admitted the move was smart and could inspire what he does.

"They were smart," Anthony told NBA TV's Ahmad Rashad. "I think it's smart. It was their choice."

Take that comment for what it is worth. For someone that is preparing to enter free agency, could Anthony decide to do the same. There are certainly teams that are prepared to offer him a top dollar deal and have the assets to pair up with Anything. Cough, cough, Los Angeles, Kobe Bryant.

"I'm not saying I want to go somewhere else," Anthony said. "When I first got to New York, I always told myself it would be a three- to three-and-a-half-year plan just to rebuild. I knew we took a step backwards as an organization for me to get here. So we had to rebuild. You're not going to build a mansion in a year or two years. It takes time. That's where I'm at right now."

This link here is a source from this yr 2014
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basket...

“As far as the money, it don’t really matter to me,” Anthony said. “If I go somewhere else, I get paid. If I stay in New York, I get paid. As far as the money goes, it’s not my concern. My concern is to be able to compete on a high level, a championship level, coming in this last stretch of my career. I want to compete at that level.”

Anthony, though, is open to returning to the Knicks and revealed on Friday that he’d be willing to take a pay cut.

“Without a doubt,” Anthony said. “Any opportunity I have to build that up in New York, I’d do it. I told people all the time, always say, if it takes me taking a pay cut, I’ll be the first one on Mr. Dolan’s steps saying, ‘Take my money and let’s build something strong over here.’ ”

This link here is a source from this yr 2014
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/...

LAS VEGAS -- Carmelo Anthony said it was not the money, but instead his confidence in team president Phil Jackson and his belief that the New York Knicks "aren't that far away from contending for an NBA title," that made him opt to remain in New York instead of signing with the Chicago Bulls.

"I want to win. I don't care about the money," Anthony told ESPN.com. "I believe Phil will do what he has to do to take care of that.

"I don't think we're that far away," he added. "People use 'rebuilding' too loosely."

In what were believed to be Anthony's first public comments since agreeing to a five-year deal worth $124 million earlier this month, he told ESPN.com that the decision was so agonizing in the final days that he could not watch TV or go on the Internet.

"It was overwhelming," Anthony said. "It was stressful in the final days, one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make."

Anthony said, though, it ultimately came down to New York and Chicago.

"I was flip-flopping," he admitted. "It was hard. It was Chicago, but then after I met with L.A., it was L.A. But it came back to Chicago -- and was pretty much always Chicago or New York. That's a situation where I could have walked in now to an opportunity to compete for the next however many years."

So he didn't like the transition Denver was going to go through[didn't want to rebuild]

Although he openly admitted he was happy there, forces his way here

A year and half into the gig he admits

When he came here the team would have to rebuild

He repeats it over the next 2 1/2yrs

And then re-ups once again at $125mil so we can rebuild on his dime for the second time

WHAT A COMPLETE EPIC TOOLERY OF FOOLERY

Sweet! DK and Splat are on their way over!!!!!

Lets get this party ON!

f500 is PLAYA2.

Oh my!!!

Playa2 was banned but gets to participate in Gampicker. Thats cool.
Given the history, how can he really stay away? At least he is not doing the conspiracy thing but relentless ranting and quote linking while connecting the dots really is something.

Guess what Playa, most of us think Melo is greedy and understand the nature of the business. He is also allowed to say: "Im taking the money and OK with rebuilding in NYC!".
28 games into this, even 82 games Im ok with this.
The team sucks.

What yoru really saying is "Melo's greed is the core of this teams problems". I suppose he is part of the illuminati and is drawn here by the Rockerfellers multigenerational life time persuit to build the twin towers so they can knock it down while the Bush Cartell's profit from buying bonds from Socialist German in the 1930's (extreme austerity!) and oil investments leading to change the dollar bill so to tell the pictorial story of the twin towers and the hidden message of the masonic star as designed in the street map of DC's in its masterplan pointing at the calculated process by which an elite group of powerful men want to wipe out large section of the popluation leaving the rest of us dependant on them to serve those masters who sold their generations ago as its the work of the devil himself.

Melo is the devil. Coming home never about basketball, it was so much more!!!! Alex Jones never saw this one!!!

I agreed with Barkley during the game- if you say you'd turn down an extra $30mil, you're lying. I find your constant attempts to portray him as some sort of greedy idiot for getting the most money he could for doing the same job (playing a game with a ball) hilarious, because it convinces no one outside of people who already hate him beyond reason.

Nalod wrote:f500 is PLAYA2.

Oh my!!!

Playa2 was banned but gets to participate in Gampicker. Thats cool.
Given the history, how can he really stay away? At least he is not doing the conspiracy thing but relentless ranting and quote linking while connecting the dots really is something.

Guess what Playa, most of us think Melo is greedy and understand the nature of the business. He is also allowed to say: "Im taking the money and OK with rebuilding in NYC!".
28 games into this, even 82 games Im ok with this.
The team sucks.

What yoru really saying is "Melo's greed is the core of this teams problems". I suppose he is part of the illuminati and is drawn here by the Rockerfellers multigenerational life time persuit to build the twin towers so they can knock it down while the Bush Cartell's profit from buying bonds from Socialist German in the 1930's (extreme austerity!) and oil investments leading to change the dollar bill so to tell the pictorial story of the twin towers and the hidden message of the masonic star as designed in the street map of DC's in its masterplan pointing at the calculated process by which an elite group of powerful men want to wipe out large section of the popluation leaving the rest of us dependant on them to serve those masters who sold their generations ago as its the work of the devil himself.

Melo is the devil. Coming home never about basketball, it was so much more!!!! Alex Jones never saw this one!!!

I like that F500 has gone to the trouble of inventing an annoying way of writing posts, in a rather desperate attempt to try and conceal his identity as a previous poster on these boards.

I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself from those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

Just on his NBA Salary Earnings alone he's made

To date $135mmil dollars with another $124mil added

He's still young enough to possibly get another $40-50mil

This doesn't take into account whatever he's made off the court, add in his wife's wealth

Probably her overall earnings of recent has amassed an additional $5-10mil last 5-7yrs

I wish people would stop referring to a couple generations to care for

As if the $30-40mil would have been the difference for his linage to not make it

Yes you can make up the majority if not the money given up if you win

Surely Lebron is evidence of this as is Eli Manning, winning in the largest market would do that

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

Just on his NBA Salary Earnings alone he's made

To date $135mmil dollars with another $124mil added

He's still young enough to possibly get another $40-50mil

This doesn't take into account whatever he's made off the court, add in his wife's wealth

Probably her overall earnings of recent has amassed an additional $5-10mil last 5-7yrs

I wish people would stop referring to a couple generations to care for

As if the $30-40mil would have been the difference for his linage to not make it

Yes you can make up the majority if not the money given up if you win

Surely Lebron is evidence of this as is Eli Manning, winning in the largest market would do that

The money runs out at some point- to say $30mil wouldn't make a difference is silly. How would he have made up that $30mil if he had won in Chicago? What if he hadn't of won anything (as was the likely scenario, unless you now think Melo is a guaranteed championship player)? How would he have made up the money then? What happens if Melo tears an ACL tomorrow? Could he have made up they $30mil further down the line? We were offering GUARANTEED extra money- everything else is not guaranteed money and higher risk.

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

Just on his NBA Salary Earnings alone he's made

To date $135mmil dollars with another $124mil added

He's still young enough to possibly get another $40-50mil

This doesn't take into account whatever he's made off the court, add in his wife's wealth

Probably her overall earnings of recent has amassed an additional $5-10mil last 5-7yrs

I wish people would stop referring to a couple generations to care for

As if the $30-40mil would have been the difference for his linage to not make it

Yes you can make up the majority if not the money given up if you win

Surely Lebron is evidence of this as is Eli Manning, winning in the largest market would do that

Being from the military and asked to sacrifice for the team is not the same as private business. Melo going to chicago and IF they won would not be the same financial windfall as In NY. Remember Pau is not there.

Your also justifying his value system at which you have no idea to which he thinks both long and short term.

you guys should have left it with the vaseline

fishmike wrote:you guys should have left it with the vaseline

chief of the melo police

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

nope that's *your* reality.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:you guys should have left it with the vaseline

chief of the idiot police

fixed

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

nope that's *your* reality.

speaking of reality how are things at realGM?

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:you guys should have left it with the vaseline

chief of the idiot police

fixed

fish why did you call yourself an idiot

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:you guys should have left it with the vaseline

chief of the idiot police

fixed

fish why did you call yourself an idiot

I like how we're all regressing back to the kind of insults we used as children- we've been bickering so long we've exhausted all the sophisticated insults!

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

nope that's *your* reality.

Fun fact from the world of psychotherapy: It's very common for people to sink in to a deep depression following the achievement of a long standing goal- not sure if it's because the victory turns out to feel more empty or meaningless in reality than it did before it was attained, or whether the person thought that somehow achieving it would fundamentally alter their life, but it doesn't. Depressing! But I do always wonder after every championship, once the celebration has died down, do the players secretly have feelings of disappointment?

smackeddog wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

fishmike wrote:you guys should have left it with the vaseline

chief of the idiot police

fixed

fish why did you call yourself an idiot

I like how we're all regressing back to the kind of insults we used as children- we've been bickering so long we've exhausted all the sophisticated insults!

This is true lol

dk7th wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:I went into work today and my boss who recently was valued at over $1 billion dollars thanks to my contributions, called me in to his office and said "hey smackedog, do you mind if we pay you 30% less, so I can use the money to hire some great workers to work beside you- It will increase your chances of winning a 'Work Team of The Year' award." I said "sure!- to do otherwise would be real stupid and evil!"

Well in the end winning provides a wealth of dividends

Probably makes up the 30% in bonus pay, and future raises above what was the norm

Prior to your generous give back

And if you're an investor in the company when the stocks raises

From increased Team performances, you win there too

Probably makes you more attractive to other competitors in your field

Drawing attention not only to yourself but those on the outside

I know your boss asked you for 30% paycut but what did you personally settle on

Was it 2% instead so you kinda sorta did what he asked you to

Not really- I doubt Melo would make much more money from winning a championship in Chicago. Existentially, winning doesn't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. He'd probably feel a sense of achievement, and people might say nicer things about him for a while, but $30mil can probably achieve the same, and it's money for his family, kids and grand kids. And it's not like Chicago was a guaranteed championship either- I doubt they'd win even with Melo. So he would have ended up taking less money to not win a championship. That's the reality.

nope that's *your* reality.

Yeah in the bizarre world that is smack's up means down

And left means right and Jessica Alba only shows up on the ugly scale

Unfortunately there is correlation between winning-losing and money

I wonder if smackdowg could provide in depth analysis to MSG shareholders at this time

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