VCoug wrote:What happens next Summer when we strike out in free agency?
Use the cap space to add assets. Like Gerald Wallace expiring for first round pick, OJ Mayo for first round pick so that Bucks can resign Knight without going heavily over the cap. Javale Mcgee's expiring for first round pick.
F500ONE wrote:Man this 3-way trade is such a Fresh Ripe Smelly Dump
Figures that you would take this stance on the deal. You do realize that you sound like the sour old man screaming from his porch? How can you complain about the deal when you didn't like the Knicks talent to begin with? Phil cleaning house is a good thing at this point. I see no downside to these moves. We need cap space and to get rid of players that clearly don't fit the direction this franchise is headed.
VCoug wrote:What happens next Summer when we strike out in free agency?
we wont strike out with everybody plus we will have a top 3 pick
TPercy wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:gunsnewing wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:so we got rid of JR's contract for next season. That is awesome!Shumpert was a worthless RFA gonner anyway
It really is. That's a home run. I hated Shump. He will be like the 9th guy on the Spurs, have two good weeks and guns will scream from the mountain tops we traded the best two player since Ewing. See ya JR. Getting the season woody got from him 2 years ago was his biggest accomplishment
Hate is a strong word. You sure? This is what you said 2months ago...
http://74.208.110.179/forum/topic.asp?t=...
Readcwhat I wrote. Both players suck. Shumpert sucked less. We should have traded him to okc years ago. I'm sorry your boy got traded. Hey I loved Mosgov. Life goes on. Shumpert had some nice moments but what sticks out the most are all the games he scored zero points and the extended visits on the DL. Thanks but no thanks
Got it Fish. Your definition of hatred is different than mine
Get over yourself dude
No you get over yourself.
No YOU get over YOURSELF. seriously dude... I'm close to all caps. I'm talking the whole sentence. You do NOT want to go there.
Chill out Fish, how many people are you going to have a go at today?
THAT'S IT. CAPS LOCK ON. HAMMERS DROPPING.
Lol I'm joking. Did you miss the part where I threatened him with caps? Seriously people you need to lighten up. Wtf
Intrigued by 23 y.o. 7' 245 lb center that we're getting back,
Alex Kirk.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Alex-Kirk-18414/
BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.
Yea you can make a case it is solid under these horrible circumstances.
Is there anything to this?
BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.
No this deal is awful, it means we'regoing to grossly
Overpay someone next year and I mean way overpay
Look we needed a pick we could use right away, It's real simple we're rebuilding
There are no free agents that will put us over the top next year
Probably not even a top 8 team
A 2019 pick 2nd rounder is about as irrelevant as it gets
Why are we counting Dolan's pennies now
We used to threaten to match contracts up to a billion dollars
AND IT'S NOT YOUR OUR MONEY
StarksEwing1 wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:VCoug wrote:What happens next Summer when we strike out in free agency?
Use the cap space to add assets. Like Gerald Wallace expiring for first round pick, OJ Mayo for first round pick so that Bucks can resign Knight without going heavily over the cap. Javale Mcgee's expiring for first round pick.
no more trading picks
Im looking to add more picks not trade them away. Gerald Wallace, Mcgree and Mayo are not worth giving picks up for. They are to eat expiring salary so that we can get the teams picks for taking on these contracts.
Example Boston might be wiling to trade a first rounder to dump Gerlad Wallace contract in the offseason.
F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.
No this deal is awful, it means we're to grossly
Overpay someone next year and I mean way overpay
Look we needed a pick we could use right away, It's real simple we're rebuilding
There are no free agents that will put us over the top next year
Probably not even a top 8 team
A 2019 pick 2nd rounder is about as irrelevant as it gets
Why are we counting Dolan's pennies now
We used to threaten to match contracts up to a billion dollars
AND IT'S NOT YOUR OUR MONEY
In Briggs defense he said solid trade. Had it been a 1st rounder in 2016 then you could argue a homerun
F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.
No this deal is awful, it means we're to grossly
Overpay someone next year and I mean way overpay
Look we needed a pick we could use right away, It's real simple we're rebuilding
There are no free agents that will put us over the top next year
Probably not even a top 8 team
A 2019 pick 2nd rounder is about as irrelevant as it gets
Why are we counting Dolan's pennies now
We used to threaten to match contracts up to a billion dollars
AND IT'S NOT YOUR OUR MONEY
What kind of warped ass logic are you using? PLEASE GTFOH!!! PLEASE! You have no credibility anymore at this point. You can't bitch about a team and then when we clean house and clear even more cap space trash the deal. Make up your damn mind!!!
VCoug wrote:MS wrote:We essentially gained nothing since Phil took on Calderon for two more years losing 500k of room. I feel like there was a better deal to be made out there if you packaged tyson and iman together initially.
Well, yeah. The Tyson trade is still a really bad trade but this is one is actually good. We're dumping JR's salary and getting back a real asset all for the price of Shumpert.
Yeah, if these reports are true, then Phil followed up several gutters with a strike here.
gunsnewing wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Dolan wins big on this trade. I think hes going to save like 20mm $ because of luxury taxes. At the end of the day we get rid of JR's salary next year and a 2nd rounder. I can accept that--cap space is important. The deal is good solid.
Yea you can make a case it is solid under these horrible circumstances.
This takes the roster gutting one more step further. That's it. Nothing lost. Jr gone is $6mm more to spend elsewhere. Shumpert was not getting resigned. Your hope for his value is either a pick back or he helps you dump salary. This was the latter.
StarksEwing1 wrote:VCoug wrote:What happens next Summer when we strike out in free agency?
we wont strike out with everybody plus we will have a top 3 pick
We're going to strike out with everyone that matters.
CrushAlot wrote:
I wonder why their main target is Shumpert if he sucks
Bonn1997 wrote:VCoug wrote:MS wrote:We essentially gained nothing since Phil took on Calderon for two more years losing 500k of room. I feel like there was a better deal to be made out there if you packaged tyson and iman together initially.
Well, yeah. The Tyson trade is still a really bad trade but this is one is actually good. We're dumping JR's salary and getting back a real asset all for the price of Shumpert.
Yeah, if these reports are true, then Phil followed up several gutters with a strike here.
That's what I am seeing. You dump Jr by giving up a guy you weren't resigning. That's a good thing
Glad for Shump...he goes from 5-31 to LeBron. Not bad.
KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Glad for Shump...he goes from 5-31 to LeBron. Not bad.
Not bad at all. I am really happy for him
