First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.
I don't see any teams paying much more than 9-10mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
He won't get max. Probably never was. He will probably get it n the 9mil range.
His market will be high for Payday
But maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES
nice to see.
mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES
nice to see.
What metrics are OKC using?
yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES
nice to see.
What metrics are OKC using?
we will find out by seeing how much they offer.
A guard who shoots 3's worse than Toney Douglass will probably be alarming for most clubs.
If we are dumping the triangle then I'd get him.
mreinman wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:mreinman wrote:BRIGGS wrote:First off the OKC are not going to match anything from this player now that they have committed 5+mm to Waiters next year. He's essentially done in OKC.I don't see any teams paying much more than 7mm tops now. That also may drop the cost of other players
yes ... teams are actually using metrics now and not their overrated EYES
nice to see.
What metrics are OKC using?
we will find out by seeing how much they offer.
A guard who shoots 3's worse than Toney Douglass will probably be alarming for most clubs.
They just gave up a 1st for Waiters who shoots 3s worse than Toney Douglas. I do think this means that they will probably let Jackson go but regardless of teams using metrics their are always teams out there using the eye test.
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
kemba's salary is terrible.
Lowry is making 12.
Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
and which "numbers" are those?
mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
kemba's salary is terrible.
Lowry is making 12.
Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.
There always is 1 usually more and that's what the metrics also suggest
You know metrics apply to more than a vacuum debate over player statistics
I figured you'd be one smart enough to grasp this
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
kemba's salary is terrible.
Lowry is making 12.
Will there be a dumb team that makes a dumb move? Perhaps.
There always is 1 usually more and that's what the metrics also suggest
You know metrics apply to more than a vacuum debate over player statistics
I figured you'd be one smart enough to grasp this
I am smart enough to know that what ever you believe, I probably believe the opposite
If OKC is out of the running to resign Jackson that could really put NY in a prime position. We have to think of the market in terms of teams that will actually be buyers! Not all teams will actually be buyers even if they have the cap space. Philly for example likely won't be looking to get in the top FA fight. Some teams already have PG's and won't be looking for a guy like Reggie Jackson or Brandon Knight. It looks like the competition will thin out if you take out teams that have PG's already. It might come down to only some of these teams competing with us.
Heat
Pacers
Spurs
Lakers
Pelicans
Magic
The is such a thing as defensive metrics too you know
gunsnewing wrote:The is such a thing as defensive metrics too you know
yup and that is how we got stuck with shump until he was on life support
F500ONE wrote:mreinman wrote:F500ONE wrote:His market will be high for PaydayBut maybe not so high for trade
Nothing really has changed in terms of his cash value
He's going to get $11-15mil/yr no matter what
nope ... don't think he will
He will because the upper tier point guards make 30-40% more
And the metrics suggest the upper tier point guard % will continue to climb
He's a 2nd tier point guard you know how the metrics suggested
Kemba Walker to get 4yrs $48mil
When Jackson plays as a starter, which this will be 1a in his decision making process
His numbers suggest he's a double digit mil per yr salary maker
There is a big difference between Jackson and Kemnba. Kemba was wanted by his own team. The guard that will get Kemba money with an inflation bump is your boy Knight.
Jackson proved as a starter he was not a capable shooter. He will have to prove his self. For all we know teams may see him as a Darren Collinson type. He was a backup that turned starter then backup then backup then starter.
What are other back ups not named Harden that got a big contract on poor shooting numbers.
nixluva wrote:If OKC is out of the running to resign Jackson that could really put NY in a prime position. We have to think of the market in terms of teams that will actually be buyers! Not all teams will actually be buyers even if they have the cap space. Philly for example likely won't be looking to get in the top FA fight. Some teams already have PG's and won't be looking for a guy like Reggie Jackson or Brandon Knight. It looks like the competition will thin out if you take out teams that have PG's already. It might come down to only some of these teams competing with us.Heat
Pacers
Spurs
Lakers
Pelicans
Magic
how much do you pay for jackson?
mreinman wrote:TPercy wrote:If we are dumping the triangle then I'd get him.
why?
for how much $?
Because the Triangle,from what I have seen, the pg is mainly required to have a pass first mentaliy, and
SHOOTING ABILITY and as a last resort to cut to the basket. Reggie plays fast and dynamic basketball and gets to the rim. (Also if you go on [url]http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/202704/stats/[url]And click on his shot chart, it shows that he takes most of his shots in the paint and makes a decent number of them( 92/168) He also attempts around 14 shots a game). My point is the triangle will not get the best out of him, in fact, it could make him look worse than he was at OKC if he came here.
Another reason why is that we must keep in my mind that we are the worst team in the NBA so it would be hard luring the better pgs out there, not impossible, but harder and I think we should keep all options( provided we dump the traingle for now and run either a very modfied verson or just a system that better suits the players.
I would want him around in the 7mm even less would be greater but still, we have to keep in my that we are ny.
