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holfresh wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:If you thought the trade would solved problem of having a bad coach then you were wrong..If you thought the trade would have solved the problem of having a bad GM then you were wrong..If you thought the trade meant Amare will stay healthy, we were all wrong there...If you thought the trade would solved the problem of our owner starphucking with these GMs/Coaches that everyone seems to endorse, and now backpedaling, then you were wrong there too...

In other words, the Melo trade was the steal of the century.
But if you thought anything good would happen from it, you were wrong.

We landed one if the best players in the league and wnet to the playoffs for the first time in a decade..not good??

Not good enough. You would've liked to have built a more sustainable contender after all those years of sucking. Couldn't do it because of lack of draft picks and assets and being well over the cap. So you settle for cheap dinosaurs like Kidd, Rasheed, prigioni, Kenyon and Camby

So how come Denver wasn't able to built that contender with those assets?

Obviously because we got Felton back and derailed their entire 5 year chip building plan.

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

smackeddog wrote:We're back to discussing the Melo trade again- weep!

Relax, there's only 5 more years. No trade clause.

Count the days until the opt out takes effect.

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

The record was never as bad as this year!
I know - you'll say it's good that we're bad this year because we get a lottery pick. Any record - whether it's 0-82, 82-0, or somewhere in between is wonderful as long as we have Melo on the roster.

Yes, and 5 years later, this season is all we have to show for the trade. You always seem to forget your own preaching about sample size, don't you?

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

The record was never as bad as this year!
I know - you'll say it's good that we're bad this year because we get a lottery pick. Any record - whether it's 0-82, 82-0, or somewhere in between is wonderful as long as we have Melo on the roster.

Yes, and 5 years later, this season is all we have to show for the trade. You always seem to forget your own preaching about sample size, don't you?

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

The record was never as bad as this year!
I know - you'll say it's good that we're bad this year because we get a lottery pick. Any record - whether it's 0-82, 82-0, or somewhere in between is wonderful as long as we have Melo on the roster.

Yes, and 5 years later, this season is all we have to show for the trade. You always seem to forget your own preaching about sample size, don't you?

This year?
No, I discuss the full sample often. We're about a .480 team with Melo.

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

The record was never as bad as this year!
I know - you'll say it's good that we're bad this year because we get a lottery pick. Any record - whether it's 0-82, 82-0, or somewhere in between is wonderful as long as we have Melo on the roster.

Yes, and 5 years later, this season is all we have to show for the trade. You always seem to forget your own preaching about sample size, don't you?

This year?
No, I discuss the full sample often. We're about a .480 team with Melo.

Good, just continue not discussing the percentage before Melo.

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

But

"the rims should be 11 feet. Dunking is boring it would be more a skill game"
"it doesnt take talent to play defense"
"Danilo Gallinari has a good contract"

Too many others to list.. sadly I dont bookmark. I really should. Maybe make a coffee table book of DK quotes and raffle it off for charity at the next UK get together.

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

Well I think Kobe has signed the largest contract by total value

But I don't want Melo at any salary, Although he shouldn't be making more than $15mil

Because he's barely if at all a Top 20 player

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

DK is the best... I love how only he has a "grasp on this sport"

But

"the rims should be 11 feet. Dunking is boring it would be more a skill game"
"it doesnt take talent to play defense"
"Danilo Gallinari has a good contract"

Too many others to list.. sadly I dont bookmark. I really should. Maybe make a coffee table book of DK quotes and raffle it off for charity at the next UK get together.

You really just need a staff surrounding you creating templates. Templates are the only way to grasp things. Ask his yes men.
Then you release updates every quarter and become a digital presence.

You also have no grasp of brand reality, fish.

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

Well I think Kobe has signed the largest contract by total value

But I don't want Melo at any salary, Although he shouldn't be making more than $15mil

Because he's barely if at all a Top 20 player

Total value for Kobe's is $48 mil. I'm pretty sure he signed a 2 year contract at $24 mil per.

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

at 12 million he is a great player to have and leaves room to build a team with. at his price you are forced to build around him not with him... and that is simply a non-starter.

within the parameters of my business i am an expert and though i am open to persuasion like any reasonable leader of men, it is ultimately my responsibility to make sure the enterprise succeeds.

you do know why melo is still a knick, right?

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:It's a good thing we have Holfresh reminding us how great the trade was. No one would have noticed otherwise!

I noticed.

Maybe you'd like to look up our record again for the years before the trade? Remind us how we were poised for immediate greatness consistent mediocrity the road to nowhere before CancerMeloNomaEvil metasticized himself onto our great franchise.

The record was never as bad as this year!
I know - you'll say it's good that we're bad this year because we get a lottery pick. Any record - whether it's 0-82, 82-0, or somewhere in between is wonderful as long as we have Melo on the roster.

Yes, and 5 years later, this season is all we have to show for the trade. You always seem to forget your own preaching about sample size, don't you?

This year?
No, I discuss the full sample often. We're about a .480 team with Melo.

right. mediocrity would be an improvement.

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

well he is a one-way player and even that one-way is no great shakes.

jrodmc wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

DK is the best... I love how only he has a "grasp on this sport"

But

"the rims should be 11 feet. Dunking is boring it would be more a skill game"
"it doesnt take talent to play defense"
"Danilo Gallinari has a good contract"

Too many others to list.. sadly I dont bookmark. I really should. Maybe make a coffee table book of DK quotes and raffle it off for charity at the next UK get together.

You really just need a staff surrounding you creating templates. Templates are the only way to grasp things. Ask his yes men.
Then you release updates every quarter and become a digital presence.

You also have no grasp of brand reality, fish.

dog pile on the wab-bit! dog pile on the wab-bit!

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

Well I think Kobe has signed the largest contract by total value

But I don't want Melo at any salary, Although he shouldn't be making more than $15mil

Because he's barely if at all a Top 20 player

Total value for Kobe's is $48 mil. I'm pretty sure he signed a 2 year contract at $24 mil per.

You said in the history of the game right Bonn

Kobe had a contract from the Lakers 7yrs for $136.4mil

It's okay to modify what you said if you like

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

That doesn't sound so far-fetched to me. I'd love to have him at that salary even though I think it's a disaster to give him the largest contract in the history of the game. I can't know DK's true feelings but I'd guess that nearly every one of Melo's critics here would love to have him at half his current salary.

Well I think Kobe has signed the largest contract by total value

But I don't want Melo at any salary, Although he shouldn't be making more than $15mil

Because he's barely if at all a Top 20 player

Total value for Kobe's is $48 mil. I'm pretty sure he signed a 2 year contract at $24 mil per.

You said in the history of the game right Bonn

Kobe had a contract from the Lakers 7yrs for $136.4mil

It's okay to modify what you said if you like

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:5 wins is not on melo, but it speaks to how bad the trade was for the team. We are on our knees at this point with little on the roster. Denver is not that good, but not nearly as bad as we are. The MozTrade they made was pretty good. One day they have to make it work, but while they are disappointed, we are still falling in the abyss.

But u can't ignore the other factors that has brought us here..Like Amare knees and back..Bad decisions from GM and coaches..The trade didn't happen in a vacuum...

Woodson can do better than 5 wins...Decisions..

biggest factor is that players can be great at one price and an abomination at another.

melo has been an abomination not once but twice... to hell with your "other factors"

Do you type this stuff out each time or do you have like templates you can use over and over again?

templates. here's another one:

you don't really have an adequate grasp of the nature of this sport, do you?

you keep talking about sports, but typing about money. Do your yes men applaud your constant lack of coherence?

Tell us with a straight, omniscient face that if Melo was making 12 million a year, you'd be waving pom poms at him?

DK is the best... I love how only he has a "grasp on this sport"

But

"the rims should be 11 feet. Dunking is boring it would be more a skill game"
"it doesnt take talent to play defense"
"Danilo Gallinari has a good contract"

Too many others to list.. sadly I dont bookmark. I really should. Maybe make a coffee table book of DK quotes and raffle it off for charity at the next UK get together.

tell me something... is all this blather of yours just your way of covering up how WRONG and INACCURATE you have been about this team? because that's what i get from the mockery: "i am wrong but don't have the stones to admit it."

but yes catalog away. the stuff you listed is a great start. won't make you any better at learning the ins and uts of the game but hey you're the same guy who thinks melo's contract is fair given his "entertainment value" and "revenue generation" because it was dictated by "the market." LOL