Knicks · the budding blueprint for next season (page 1)

Pf: Bargnani
Sf: Melo
c :
1 guard: Alexey Shved
2 guard:

5: Galloway
6: Shane Larkin
7: ThJr
8: Lou amundson
9: Early
10:Thanasis
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Right now you can't factor Calderón into the plans with Shved here.

We owe Thanasis a contract for next season

You have to resign Bargnani even if you think he belongs on the bench. He's worth being in the rotation.

Lou has to stay because of his professionalism and work ethic. That's valuable to a team that is going to need leadership going forward.

We have money but we can't just waive the whole team and buy 14 new players. We need some continuity.

Your as good at this as you are yahoo F. Basketball

"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

Hector wrote:"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

Hector, I would agree with you, as far as skill set. But it seems like the league is lacking guys that give 100% effort. This is turning into a separate skill category now. Back in the day, it was the normal way to play, before the league was corrupted with evil money. Now everybody is a millionaire, so effort is no longer a high priority.

Gotta agree EnySpree. The Draft is going to really be pivotal. If we can get one of those top picks it really boosts our process for rebuilding. The C spot and 2nd guard spot are really where this roster will get a boost, but also we'll need another scorer off the bench IMO.

When you look at it in this realistic way you can see that 2-3 key additions will have a huge impact on the team for next year. If we could draft a Towns and sign a guard like Danny Green I think that would be a very good outcome. There will be some solid players available to Phil. Especially some of these bigs and SG's.

PLAYER                  POS.    AGE     FROM    2014 CAP HIT  	STATUS
Kendall Marshall 	PG	23	MIL   	$915,243	UFA
Jeremy Lin	        PG	26	LAL  	$8,374,646      UFA      
Goran Dragic 		PG	28	PHX  	$7,500,000    	UFA
John Jenkins	        SG	23	ATL  	$1,312,920    	UFA
Austin River		SG	24	NOP  	$2,439,840    	UFA
Kyle Singler	        SG	26	DET  	$1,090,000    	UFA
Donald Sloan 		SG	26	IND  	$948,163	UFA
Danny Green	        SG	27	SAS  	$4,025,000    	UFA
Marcus Thornton		SG	27	BOS  	$8,575,000    	UFA
Wesley Matthews		SG	28	POR  	$7,245,640    	UFA
Marco Belinelli		SG	28	SAS  	$2,873,750    	UFA
Luke Babbitt	        SF	25	NOP  	$981,084	UFA
Robbie Hummel		SF	25	MIN  	$880,000	UFA
Omri Casspi	        SF	26	SAC  	$915,243	UFA
Wesley Johnson		SF	27	LAL  	$915,243	UFA
Alonzo Gee	        SF	27	DEN  	$915,243	UFA
Jeremy Evans		SF	27	UTH  	$1,794,871      UFA
Gerald Green		SF	28	PHX  	$3,500,000    	UFA
DeMarre Carroll		SF	28	ATL  	$2,442,455    	UFA
Thomas Robinson		PF	23	POR  	$3,678,360    	UFA
Kevin Seraphin		PF	25	WAS  	$3,898,691    	UFA
LaVoy Allen	        PF	25	IND  	$915,243	UFA
Darrell Arthur		PF	26	DEN  	$3,457,149    	UFA
Austin Daye	        PF	26	SAS  	$1,063,384    	UFA
Malcolm Thomas		PF	26	BOS  	$635,827	UFA
Amir Johnson		PF	27	TOR  	$7,000,000      UFA
Dante Cunningham	PF	27	NOP  	$716,043	UFA
Jonas Jerebko		PF	27	DET  	$4,500,000    	UFA
Jeff Ayres	        PF	27	SAS  	$1,828,750    	UFA
Luc R Mbah a Moute	PF	28	PHI  	$4,382,576    	UFA
Jason Smith	        PF	28	NYK  	$3,278,000    	UFA
Aron Baynes	        PF	28	SAS  	$2,077,000    	UFA
Greg Monroe	        C	24	DET  	$5,479,933    	UFA
Greg Smith	        C	24	DAL  	$948,163	UFA
DeAndre Jordan		C	26	LAC  	$11,440,123   	UFA
Robin Lopez	        C	26	POR  	$6,124,729    	UFA
Alexis Ajinca	        C	26	NOP  	$981,084	UFA
Brandan Wright		C	27	BOS  	$5,000,000    	UFA
Omer Asik	        C	28	NOP  	$8,374,646    	UFA

blkexec wrote:

Hector wrote:"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

Hector, I would agree with you, as far as skill set. But it seems like the league is lacking guys that give 100% effort. This is turning into a separate skill category now. Back in the day, it was the normal way to play, before the league was corrupted with evil money. Now everybody is a millionaire, so effort is no longer a high priority.

On that list, I'd keep Carmelo & Thanasis, only because he hasn't done anything yet to contribute to this debacle.

The rest can all get gone.

I don't care what Bargnani does the rest of the way bscause it is a ruse.

EnySpree wrote:Pf: Bargnani
Sf: Melo
c :
1 guard: Alexey Shved
2 guard:

5: Galloway
6: Shane Larkin
7: ThJr
8: Lou amundson
9: Early
10:Thanasis
11:
12:

Ir:
Ir:
Ir:

Right now you can't factor Calderón into the plans with Shved here.

We owe Thanasis a contract for next season

You have to resign Bargnani even if you think he belongs on the bench. He's worth being in the rotation.

Lou has to stay

So the majority of the roster that has produced the worst record in franchise history is coming back?

There is no way we should start the year with Gallo, Shved, Larkin and THjr on the roster as our back court.

Mayne 2 of the 4, but no way all four.

Granted, they're all nice- have nice parts of their game- but they also have giant holes.

And Calderon might be your starting PG!

Larkin is most likely gone. Tim Hardaway JR - nice player, but trade him for a 2nd round pick this year if you can.

Maybe you're looking at Calderon, Gallo, Shved & 1 (hopefully) major upgrade through Draft or FA.

I'm sorry I thought I saw Bargs and Shved starting. Shved hasn't shown enough to be a main back up. Can we at least see him play well for a month? If Bargs is starting or is paid over 2m then Phil needs to go.

Basically, franco12 said it in his 1st sentence.

I hope the whole roster changes except for our fearless superstar.

Even him I'm not to keen on.

I think the point of the thread is to accept the reality that it's not going to be possible to replace every player on the roster given the cap restraints. You have to see which of the current players are worth keeping at perhaps a lower cost than bringing in all new Free Agents for your bench. Phil has to be focused on improving the starting caliber players on the roster. Melo, Shved, Bargs could possibly be in that mix as starters along with our draft pick and a Free Agent. Phil will have to look at doing this to save some money and use it elsewhere on the roster. Of course we'd love to replace them with even better players but we have to also be realistic about those prospects.

I can't see what there is not to like about Shved in that he's got talent, size, skills, BB IQ and he's affordable. He could use a good conditioning program to get stronger but in terms of pure BB he's a good option. It seems some Knick fans are just ready to hate on anything having to do with this Knicks team. Guys have got to let that go and look at this from a more practical view. We can't do a KG, Allen and Pierce or Lebron, Bosh and Wade this summer.

I'm not sure if you all realize that the majority of the guys on the list are already under contract for next year.

Only Thanasis, lou, Bargs and shved are added.

plus I simply placed guys in slots....Bargs and Shved could be moved to the bench if it helps your menstrual cramps.

this is just rough skeleton of what next year's roster might be like.

Hector wrote:"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

That's all you want to talk about is "Lou has to stay"? Lou is valuable even as the 15th man. The guy is a pro and a hard worker that will come in and play if need be. So yeah, he has to stay. We need the veteran leadership

Not sure if you all noticed the 7 empty slots....those 7 mystery players will determine where the rest of these guys fit on this skeleton roster

Hector wrote:Basically, franco12 said it in his 1st sentence.

I hope the whole roster changes except for our underrated superstar.

Even him I'm not to keen on.

Fixed

Whip it out fellas! It's circle jerk time!

EnySpree wrote:

Hector wrote:"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

That's all you want to talk about is "Lou has to stay"? Lou is valuable even as the 15th man. The guy is a pro and a hard worker that will come in and play if need be. So yeah, he has to stay. We need the veteran leadership

You didn't say much else to point out. The only way ol' Lou is valuable is as a warm body to fill a roster spot up. He does NOTHING that another scrub in the league could do. He could stay of go, I just pointed out the fact that the 'has to' part was silly.

You just said he has value, even as the 15th man - on the worst team in the league!!!. That's as good as saying he has NO value, which he doesn't.

As soon as you said that Lou Admunson has to stay, you turned this into just another pointless thread.

Splat wrote:

Hector wrote:Basically, franco12 said it in his 1st sentence.

I hope the whole roster changes except for our underrated superstar.

Even him I'm not to keen on.

Fixed

Whip it out fellas! It's circle jerk time!

I never know what the hell you're going on about. You want to go wack off with the fellas, have a good time, just lose my invitation.

Splat wrote:

Hector wrote:Basically, franco12 said it in his 1st sentence.

I hope the whole roster changes except for our underrated superstar.

Even him I'm not to keen on.

Fixed

Whip it out fellas! It's circle jerk time!

Typical. Nothing to add but dumb ass jokes. Please go away!

This is a very on point topic. The logical approach will be to try and bring back a lot of these guys and continue to develop them. In terms of starting caliber talent that's what the Draft and Free Agency will be for. We can't buy a completely new roster. That's just not practical. People are worried about who's starting but we don't even know who is coming in yet. That'll all shake itself out in time.

Just cuz the team is losing games now doesn't mean that none of these players can contribute in the future when we've added more frontline talent. The Hawks won just one more game than the Knicks last year, but that didn't mean that they should trash everyone on the team. Did the Hawks add a ton of top tier Free Agents? No. They got healthier and continued their progress of development as a team. Now the Knicks will need a lot more work, but the point is that a poor record doesn't mean you have to trash everyone. You have to see who can fill certain roles going forward.

EnySpree wrote:

Hector wrote:"Lou had to stay"

Why, because he has cute hair?

The bottom 3rd of the league is made up of plenty of guys like him.

He could stay of go, but to say he HAS to stay, like he is of any consequence.

Come on now.

That's all you want to talk about is "Lou has to stay"? Lou is valuable even as the 15th man. The guy is a pro and a hard worker that will come in and play if need be. So yeah, he has to stay. We need the veteran leadership

you're hilarious. What makes him more of a pro or harder a worker than anyone else hanging on for dear life in this league.

This is where you want to get your veteran leadership from? Holy fuck, that is just too much!!!

You're crazy.

if you want 100% effort then abolish both the salary cap and guaranteed contracts.

Its funny either we have posters who have too much hate or posters who are too optimistic that lose touch with reality.

Towns, Monroe, and Danny green. Start with those 3 and build from there with smart low budget free agent signings.

C Monroe
F towns
F Anthony
G green
G Galloway
6th shved
7th bargnani or Ajinca