Knicks · Russell Westbrook - New MVP Front Runner - Are They Better Off Without KD? (page 1)

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

holfresh wrote:Well if you are into stats or that kind of thing I guess it's good..Some teams want to win Championships..They are better with Durant..They are currently out if the playoffs..

I thought that they were the 8th seed.

And, can westbrook play this way with Durant? If they can trade Durant they can get back a freakin ton! Is this the best time to do it? If not, he may just walk anyway and I actually think that he would not stay especially if Westbrook has the throne.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:Well if you are into stats or that kind of thing I guess it's good..Some teams want to win Championships..They are better with Durant..They are currently out if the playoffs..

I thought that they were the 8th seed.

And, can westbrook play this way with Durant? If they can trade Durant they can get back a freakin ton! Is this the best time to do it? If not, he may just walk anyway and I actually think that he would not stay especially if Westbrook has the throne.

holfresh wrote:Why do a Knick fans think it's a problem to have more than one good player on a team?

I did not think that was allowed.

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

I don't think Westbrook could sustain this for a whole season- it would be inhuman and exhausting! OKC have options though, if it looks like KD is leaving or won't recover from his foot injury, they could sign Kanter and trade KD and rebuild with another FA signing next year, or picks (whatever massive haul they'd get for KD).

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

what if he wants to leave? You keep ignoring that question and stating that they are better with him.

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

what if he wants to leave? You keep ignoring that question and stating that they are better with him.

How do u know he wants to leave??..Right now its media speculation..If he tells you he wants to leave then yes trade him..If not, try to win a Championship..With a healthy Westbrook and Durant they are the best in the West..What else is there??..Who gives a rats arse about picks at that point..U get picks and pray the become Westbrook and Durant which is once a generation, maybe..

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Trading Westbrook now would be selling high. Trading Durant would be selling at an all time low.

I would not trade Durant now ... of course not. He has to come back and show that he could play.

Trading Westbrook now would definitely be selling extremely high.

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

what if he wants to leave? You keep ignoring that question and stating that they are better with him.

How do u know he wants to leave??..Right now its media speculation..If he tells you he wants to leave then yes trade him..If not, try to win a Championship..With a healthy Westbrook and Durant they are the best in the West..What else is there??..Who gives a rats arse about picks at that point..U get picks and pray the become Westbrook and Durant which is once a generation, maybe..

Well ... they will probably get a feeling if he wants to stay or leave and if him and westbrook can coexist.

My gut tells me that they will be split up ... You obviously think that they won't be.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

what if he wants to leave? You keep ignoring that question and stating that they are better with him.

How do u know he wants to leave??..Right now its media speculation..If he tells you he wants to leave then yes trade him..If not, try to win a Championship..With a healthy Westbrook and Durant they are the best in the West..What else is there??..Who gives a rats arse about picks at that point..U get picks and pray the become Westbrook and Durant which is once a generation, maybe..

Well ... they will probably get a feeling if he wants to stay or leave and if him and westbrook can coexist.

My gut tells me that they will be split up ... You obviously think that they won't be.

Durant was MVP last year..He is still better than Westbrook minus the injury..U need three to four good guys to win a Chip..Only crazy Knick fans think you can do it alone..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Sell high??..Isn't the goal a Championship?...With Durant you can compete ..Without Durant you can't compete..

what if they think that he will leave? What if they can get a huge return for him?

You seem to be certain that he is staying. I'm not.

If you trade him you will never get the same value in return..Its a tough thing the get players in the prime playing at Champioship level all at the same time..Why would anyone mess with that.. People trade picks to get in that position..

what if he wants to leave? You keep ignoring that question and stating that they are better with him.

How do u know he wants to leave??..Right now its media speculation..If he tells you he wants to leave then yes trade him..If not, try to win a Championship..With a healthy Westbrook and Durant they are the best in the West..What else is there??..Who gives a rats arse about picks at that point..U get picks and pray the become Westbrook and Durant which is once a generation, maybe..

Well ... they will probably get a feeling if he wants to stay or leave and if him and westbrook can coexist.

My gut tells me that they will be split up ... You obviously think that they won't be.

Durant was MVP last year..He is still better than Westbrook minus the injury..U need three to four good guys to win a Chip..Only crazy Knick fans think you can do it alone..

Did I say that one can do it alone?

I would have traded Melo last year ... does that mean that I don't think that we need great players?

mreinman wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

mreinman wrote:12 points (on a not so good 5-16)
10 rebounds
17 assists !!!!!!!!!!!!

He is proving a lot of people wrong including me - I am not/was not a big Westbrook fan.

Was KD holding him back?

Is this just a DRose short term explosion?

What changed (and please don't tell me Enes Kanter)?

Could he be on the Juice Maybe he was really unhappy with KD winning the MVP and having to play second fiddle?

This is gonna be a fun Soap Opera down in OKC.

I've always liked Westbrook, but I always think OKC are better with KD as the alpha dog, and Westbrook taking a step back. He's a great player, but I'm not sure I'd like him dominating the ball as much as he has been in this impressive streak. It's been exciting to watch though!

do you think that wetbrook is going to want to take a back seat after this? May see some in fighting when / if he comes back.

Of course that OKC is better with one of the top 3 players in the NBA but with this be a really smart sell crazy high opportunity?

Trading Westbrook now would be selling high. Trading Durant would be selling at an all time low.

I would not trade Durant now ... of course not. He has to come back and show that he could play.

Trading Westbrook now would definitely be selling extremely high.