Knicks · Rondo's been a disaster in Dal and was benched last night (page 1)

Someone is going to sign him this offseason... But at this point I would not be suprised if he takes a 1 year deal

The coach is trying to call every play..He has to let Rondo run the team..

I could see Rondo working in NY but I have no interest

yeah ... as I have been saying ... Rondo is perfect for NY. Bust City.

No thanks.

I will sit back and enjoy watching everyone jump off the bandwagon

He's looked terrible. But I still wouldn't be surprised if Melo stumped for him this off-season. Remember - Melo the GM is not the savviest.

crzymdups wrote:He's looked terrible. But I still wouldn't be surprised if Melo stumped for him this off-season. Remember - Melo the GM is not the savviest.

Bargs

nuff said

I have to admit, I loved Rondo when he was a near superstar level player. And he's one of those guys I irrationally believe will be able to turn it on again in NY. But I thought this about Artest, too. So. Don't listen to me.

I think it'd be a mistake.

Though to be honest if Dallas called and offered a trade of Rondo for Calderon straight up and we could sign Rondo to Calderon's contract, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

holfresh wrote:The coach is trying to call every play..He has to let Rondo run the team..

Yeah, I saw Shaq say that but I kinda agree with Barkley on this one -- I watched a good part of that game and Rondo was completely out of it mentally. Just mistake after mistake -- 8 sec. violation bringing the ball up, errant passes, going way over the top mixing it up with Harden...I mean WTF was he doing out there?? I want no part of this guy whatsoever.

Finestrg wrote:

holfresh wrote:The coach is trying to call every play..He has to let Rondo run the team..

Yeah, I saw Shaq say that but I kinda agree with Barkley on this one -- I watched a good part of that game and Rondo was completely out of it mentally. Just mistake after mistake -- 8 sec. violation bringing the ball up, errant passes, going way over the top mixing it up with Harden...I mean WTF was he doing out there?? I want no part of this guy whatsoever.

He was talking to Carlisle..Carlisle can't do that with Rondo..The dude is an enigma..Either let him run the team or don't trade for him.. Dude use to have games of 20 reb and 20 assist..He has to do his thing to be engaged..

Finestrg wrote:

holfresh wrote:The coach is trying to call every play..He has to let Rondo run the team..

Yeah, I saw Shaq say that but I kinda agree with Barkley on this one -- I watched a good part of that game and Rondo was completely out of it mentally. Just mistake after mistake -- 8 sec. violation bringing the ball up, errant passes, going way over the top mixing it up with Harden...I mean WTF was he doing out there?? I want no part of this guy whatsoever.

Rondo and Carlisle have clashed from pretty much day one in Dallas. Wojo had a good piece about it today:

Around Rondo, the energy is toxic. The Rockets' and Mavericks' interests intersect everywhere, including with the trade pursuit for Rondo in December. Rondo's agent never wanted Rondo in Houston, partly because it would've cost another client, Patrick Beverley, his job and payday to re-sign with the Rockets this summer. In the end, the Rockets kept bidding on Rondo to try to push the price higher for the Mavericks, which was ultimately unsuccessful.

When Rondo realized his run with the Celtics was over this year, he planned to sign with the Los Angeles Lakers in the summer, league sources told Yahoo Sports. He expected a maximum contract. Once Dallas made the trade, he was open to re-signing with the Mavericks – only there are no max contract offers for Rondo on the market. Not in Dallas, nor Los Angeles. He's played his way out of that payday – not just this year, but since that terrible ACL injury two years ago.

Everyone can insist that Rondo no longer cares, that he's stopped trying, and Game 2's debacle made a case for it. Rondo is the prince of moody, yes, but he's lost with these Mavericks – and they're lost with him. Nevertheless, Rondo hasn't given up on salvaging this season, nor his Mavericks career.

On Monday evening, Josh Smith stopped over to the Toyota Center to take extra shots. There was a ball bouncing inside the arena, and as he ducked inside, Smith found a familiar face getting up shots: Rajon Rondo.

Rondo always does the work, the preparation, but everyone could see again in Game 2 that his struggles with Mavericks coach Rick Carlisle remain an immense hurdle. On the court, there were those who believed Rondo's eight-second violation for failing to cross the midcourt line was an act of protest on the coach's calling of plays. Rondo played 10 minutes, picking up fouls for slapping at James Harden, and finally a technical to start the third quarter for shoving Harden out of sheer frustration.

Carlisle banished him to the bench, choosing Raymond Felton over Rondo in the fourth quarter. Everything's pushing Rondo closer to his inevitable free-agent fleeing to the Lakers this summer. As long as the coach is back, Rondo's gone, sources told Yahoo Sports. The parting could be mutual.

When Rondo and Carlisle had it out on the bench and again in the locker room in February, teammates heard Rondo ask him: "Why the [bleep] did you bring me here?"

Of course, the Mavericks made the Rondo trade for the playoffs, and so far, the experiment is a bust. "It does look frustrating for him," Smith told Yahoo Sports. "And it's definitely not his fault."

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/josh-smith-...

mreinman wrote:I will sit back and enjoy watching everyone jump off the bandwagon

There was one to two people on that bandwagon- you seemed to overestimate his popularity

Been reading for years that Rondo is problematic despite his obvious talent. Ainge tried to move him for a long time and finally found a good deal for him.
He had KG as the leader and Pierce/Ray to work as being the 4th option.

I really don't like this guy. There was a reason why he fell in the draft and I always believed he'd been a disaster if the knicks took him. To his credit, and Celtics he was perfect for that team and was a great rookie because the leadership structure in Boston was as such. IN NY he would have failed.

I can't see him being on Phils radar. Of course, if he is I hope its one of thise genius moves nobody saw but him.

good read Crush. Whats funny is he's regarded as one of the smarter BB guys around. I could see him taking a 1 year deal and crushing it. I could also see him getting resigned by that same team and it ending up with more of the above. I hear you on the Artest thing.. I thought he could be a great fit and a great addition and for too many reasons to sort out it was a total flop

Rondo needs the right coach and organization..If I was NO, I'll offer him a one year deal to see what he does..Let him run the team with AD and some outside shooters...

Finestrg wrote:

holfresh wrote:The coach is trying to call every play..He has to let Rondo run the team..

Yeah, I saw Shaq say that but I kinda agree with Barkley on this one -- I watched a good part of that game and Rondo was completely out of it mentally. Just mistake after mistake -- 8 sec. violation bringing the ball up, errant passes, going way over the top mixing it up with Harden...I mean WTF was he doing out there?? I want no part of this guy whatsoever.

Thats like saying the cavs should want no part of J R, the hanging out, the shoe lace thing, the weed suspension, the swinging at rondo in the playoffs.

Rondo is definatley a problem, but when you have a guy like melo..it's a problem worth having because he's not going to force feed melo like everybody else

SupremeCommander wrote:I could see Rondo working in NY but I have no interest

Yeah, maybe on Wall Street, but not at MSG. Please God, no. A non-shooting, broken down PG with major attitude problems.
Next.

most present rumors discuss him in a laker uniform.

Kobe, Rondo and Byron scott.

Is Rondo a CAA client?

Have not seen Rondo play in Dallas, yet.

I thought he'd be a nice fit over there. Good P&R center in Chandler, good outside shooters in Parsons, Dirk, and Ellis.

Do they have a "system" they run, no matter who is on the court?

I doubt that Carlisle or any NBA coach would be calling "every" play, but I assume that he's tried to instill in his players some basic concepts he wants them to follow.

Perhaps Rondo is simply too much of a freelancer… or is he just another JR Smith, who feels a particular offensive system is too difficult to learn?