Knicks · Harden wants to bring in another playmaker over the summer. Offer Calderon? (page 1)

GustavBahler @ 6/1/2015 12:26 PM
They were happy to get Prigs........

http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-rockets/...

Calvin Watkins, ESPN Staff Writer

HOUSTON -- James Harden said at the Houston Rockets' exit interviews on Friday that he wants to alleviate some of his ballhandling responsibilities next season.

Harden, the runner-up for 2014-15 MVP, committed an NBA playoff record 13 turnovers in a loss in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals against the Golden State Warriors that ended the Rockets' season.

He finished the postseason fourth in scoring (27.4 points per game) and fourth in assists (7.5 assists per game) but first in turnovers (4.5 turnovers per game).

Harden said he has plans to speak with general manager Daryl Morey about either getting a point guard in free agency or using the ones currently on the roster to help with the ballhandling.

“Yeah, definitely, that’s one of the conversations that me and Daryl are going to have, and the coaches, is one of the pieces we need to have,” Harden said. “That’s a later conversation, but we’ll be all right. We’re very confident in the group that we have and this summer we got to work hard and be ready for next year.”

Harden touched the ball 81.6 percent of the time in the postseason, finishing eighth among players who played a minimum of 10 games. His 1,387 total touches were second in the postseason. His turnover ratio of 13.3 percent was beaten by only Tony Allen (14.4) and Matthew Dellavedova (13.4) among players who participated in 10 or more playoff games.

Energy became a question late in the season. Harden averaged the second-most playing time in the NBA during the regular season (36.8 minutes per game) and had little rest during the summer after playing in the FIBA World Cup. After handling double-teams well in the regular season, he struggled to get out of them as quickly.

Starting point guard Patrick Beverley missed the postseason with a torn ligament in his wrist. With Beverley out, veterans Jason Terry (who is more of a combo guard) and Pablo Prigioni took over at point guard.

Beverley, a restricted free agent, is expected to return. The 37-year-old Terry, an unrestricted free agent, wants to come back as well.

But there are expected to be several attractive options at point guard on the free-agent market this summer, including Goran Dragic, Rajon Rondo, Jeremy Lin and Mo Williams.

The Rockets tried to reacquire Dragic at the trade deadline, but ESPN's Marc Stein reported in February that the point guard, who was eventually sent to Miami, were "not likely to secure long-term commitment from the PG."

After sent home in the first round by the Dallas Mavericks for an apparent back injury and his indifferent play, Rondo doesn’t seem to fit the chemistry-concerned Rockets.

Lin has played for the Rockets before, and there is a feeling he can become more a distributor this time around.

Of course, if the Rockets do add another ball handler, it would mean Harden would have to to alter his game to play alongside him.

“I think he has to move without the ball,” coach Kevin McHale said of Harden. “I think he has an area of growth that he can’t really work on and we talked about that I think he’ll get better at that. James has improved every year that he’s been here and that’s got to be something we help him with and something he can help himself with. I do think that off the ball for him would help him, which means we got to get more movement, more body movement, more ball movement. He’s got to get off the ball, got to play off the catch a little bit quicker, got to play off our actions a little bit quicker. But those are all things we can do.”

Said Harden: “Yeah, like I said, we're pretty good with what we have. Maybe another piece or so. We made it this far with a couple of our guys injured and banged up. Put those guys together we’ll be a lot better.”

crzymdups @ 6/1/2015 12:38 PM
Houston previously coveted Rondo. He might be a good fit next to Harden. Plays Beverly level defense, or he CAN when motivated, but a better playmaker.
GustavBahler @ 6/1/2015 12:42 PM
crzymdups wrote:Houston previously coveted Rondo. He might be a good fit next to Harden. Plays Beverly level defense, or he CAN when motivated, but a better playmaker.

The only thing I can think of is Calderon's three point shooting which not counting last season has been elite. Something to counter GS's 3pt shooting ability.

knickscity @ 6/1/2015 12:50 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Houston previously coveted Rondo. He might be a good fit next to Harden. Plays Beverly level defense, or he CAN when motivated, but a better playmaker.

The only thing I can think of is Calderon's three point shooting which not counting last season has been elite. Something to counter GS's 3pt shooting ability.

calderons accuracy ironically is driven by not taking volume, and being completely set. he wouldnt offset GS in particular that will hike them open,with coverage, in transistion, and from way back distance.

harden wants someone to take the ball from him a little, not necessarily another shooter.

GustavBahler @ 6/1/2015 1:04 PM
knickscity wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Houston previously coveted Rondo. He might be a good fit next to Harden. Plays Beverly level defense, or he CAN when motivated, but a better playmaker.

The only thing I can think of is Calderon's three point shooting which not counting last season has been elite. Something to counter GS's 3pt shooting ability.

calderons accuracy ironically is driven by not taking volume, and being completely set. he wouldnt offset GS in particular that will hike them open,with coverage, in transistion, and from way back distance.

harden wants someone to take the ball from him a little, not necessarily another shooter.

Calderon not being a high volume shooter is a good thing considering he would be playing next to Harden, and they do play their share of half court sets. He does shoot well enough to give them an efficient 3pt shooter who doesnt need a lot of touches, which in the West cant hurt. Probably a tough sell but wouldnt mind Phil reaching out.

mreinman @ 6/1/2015 1:07 PM
harden is looking for another playmaker, not a calderon
GustavBahler @ 6/1/2015 1:09 PM
mreinman wrote:harden is looking for another playmaker, not a calderon

LOL, make it almost sound like a curse word.

mreinman @ 6/1/2015 1:09 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
mreinman wrote:harden is looking for another playmaker, not a calderon

LOL, make it almost sound like a curse word.

haha ...

I actually think that calderon can do well as a spot up shooter on the right team

GustavBahler @ 6/1/2015 1:11 PM
mreinman wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
mreinman wrote:harden is looking for another playmaker, not a calderon

LOL, make it almost sound like a curse word.

haha ...

I actually think that calderon can do well as a spot up shooter on the right team

I guess his age doesnt help.

mreinman @ 6/1/2015 1:11 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
mreinman wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
mreinman wrote:harden is looking for another playmaker, not a calderon

LOL, make it almost sound like a curse word.

haha ...

I actually think that calderon can do well as a spot up shooter on the right team

I guess his age doesnt help.

not to run an offense but he can certainly camp out.

newyorker4ever @ 6/1/2015 1:39 PM
GustavBahler wrote:They were happy to get Prigs........

http://espn.go.com/blog/houston-rockets/...

Calvin Watkins, ESPN Staff Writer

HOUSTON -- James Harden said at the Houston Rockets' exit interviews on Friday that he wants to alleviate some of his ballhandling responsibilities next season.

Harden, the runner-up for 2014-15 MVP, committed an NBA playoff record 13 turnovers in a loss in Game 5 of the Western Conference finals against the Golden State Warriors that ended the Rockets' season.

He finished the postseason fourth in scoring (27.4 points per game) and fourth in assists (7.5 assists per game) but first in turnovers (4.5 turnovers per game).

Harden said he has plans to speak with general manager Daryl Morey about either getting a point guard in free agency or using the ones currently on the roster to help with the ballhandling.

“Yeah, definitely, that’s one of the conversations that me and Daryl are going to have, and the coaches, is one of the pieces we need to have,” Harden said. “That’s a later conversation, but we’ll be all right. We’re very confident in the group that we have and this summer we got to work hard and be ready for next year.”

Harden touched the ball 81.6 percent of the time in the postseason, finishing eighth among players who played a minimum of 10 games. His 1,387 total touches were second in the postseason. His turnover ratio of 13.3 percent was beaten by only Tony Allen (14.4) and Matthew Dellavedova (13.4) among players who participated in 10 or more playoff games.

Energy became a question late in the season. Harden averaged the second-most playing time in the NBA during the regular season (36.8 minutes per game) and had little rest during the summer after playing in the FIBA World Cup. After handling double-teams well in the regular season, he struggled to get out of them as quickly.

Starting point guard Patrick Beverley missed the postseason with a torn ligament in his wrist. With Beverley out, veterans Jason Terry (who is more of a combo guard) and Pablo Prigioni took over at point guard.

Beverley, a restricted free agent, is expected to return. The 37-year-old Terry, an unrestricted free agent, wants to come back as well.

But there are expected to be several attractive options at point guard on the free-agent market this summer, including Goran Dragic, Rajon Rondo, Jeremy Lin and Mo Williams.

The Rockets tried to reacquire Dragic at the trade deadline, but ESPN's Marc Stein reported in February that the point guard, who was eventually sent to Miami, were "not likely to secure long-term commitment from the PG."

After sent home in the first round by the Dallas Mavericks for an apparent back injury and his indifferent play, Rondo doesn’t seem to fit the chemistry-concerned Rockets.

Lin has played for the Rockets before, and there is a feeling he can become more a distributor this time around.

Of course, if the Rockets do add another ball handler, it would mean Harden would have to to alter his game to play alongside him.

“I think he has to move without the ball,” coach Kevin McHale said of Harden. “I think he has an area of growth that he can’t really work on and we talked about that I think he’ll get better at that. James has improved every year that he’s been here and that’s got to be something we help him with and something he can help himself with. I do think that off the ball for him would help him, which means we got to get more movement, more body movement, more ball movement. He’s got to get off the ball, got to play off the catch a little bit quicker, got to play off our actions a little bit quicker. But those are all things we can do.”

Said Harden: “Yeah, like I said, we're pretty good with what we have. Maybe another piece or so. We made it this far with a couple of our guys injured and banged up. Put those guys together we’ll be a lot better.”


I'm pretty sure Phil has made it known to every team out there that Calderon is very much attainable. LOL
JrZyHuStLa @ 6/1/2015 1:54 PM
Not having 13 turnovers yourself alone in a playoff game can reduce your need for a playmaker.
smackeddog @ 6/1/2015 2:33 PM
Hopefully one of you metrics people can answer: does Calderon look good to metric advocates like Morey (don't count this past year!)- his efficient shooting and FTs most count for something. In a perfect world (sadly not this one) would you prefer to trade him for cap space or for the rights to Beverley?
crzymdups @ 6/1/2015 2:34 PM
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Not having 13 turnovers yourself alone in a playoff game can reduce your need for a playmaker.

That's why he wanted another playmaker. Houston's offense essentially became give the ball to Harden at the top of the key and get out of the way.

I could see them being interested in Rondo or maybe Lou Williams.

JrZyHuStLa @ 6/1/2015 2:35 PM
crzymdups wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Not having 13 turnovers yourself alone in a playoff game can reduce your need for a playmaker.

That's why he wanted another playmaker. Houston's offense essentially became give the ball to Harden at the top of the key and get out of the way.

I could see them being interested in Rondo or maybe Lou Williams.

I think he wants a playmker to just lessen the load for himself.

All I'm saying is that setting a playoffs record of 13 TOs doesn't help.

Nalod @ 6/1/2015 3:03 PM
Rondo-Dwight-JSmooth.......A personality crisis waiting to happen.
Knicks1969 @ 6/1/2015 3:04 PM
I pray that someone trade for that dude (Calderon).
WaltLongmire @ 6/1/2015 3:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Not having 13 turnovers yourself alone in a playoff game can reduce your need for a playmaker.

That's why he wanted another playmaker. Houston's offense essentially became give the ball to Harden at the top of the key and get out of the way.

I could see them being interested in Rondo or maybe Lou Williams.

The funny thing is that the Cavs actually do this a lot with James, but he is looking to pass out much of the time. This accounts for J.R. and Shumpert having their moments. If they maneuver to get open they know James will see them and get them the ball. Not sure Harden is thinking like this- he's more likely to pass off because he doesn't have a shot, not because he's setting people up. Harden has his moments as a facilitator, but is a shoot first guy, who games a system that allows little contact on guys going to the basket.

yellowboy90 @ 6/1/2015 3:30 PM
What he wanted a playmaker? Well bring back Lin, they worked so well together.

As much as I kid he is a better alternative than Calderon and I think Morey said he'd like to bring him back but I'm not sure if min would go.

smackeddog @ 6/1/2015 4:09 PM
I think the rockets, pelicans and hornets are our only (long) shots at getting rid of Calderon
StarksEwing1 @ 6/1/2015 4:15 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I pray that someone trade for that dude (Calderon).
unfortunetly the knicks are the only team dumb enough to acquire that contract. Basically the knicks are used as an example of what not to do lol
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