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Justise Winslow isn’t sure where he’s going to be drafted on Thursday night. But if he ends up in New York, which has the fourth overall pick, Winslow believes he’ll be a “great fit” with the Knicks.
“The team is built around Carmelo (Anthony), obviously, so I feel like I’m somebody that can complement his skills and play with him in that offense,” Winslow said in an interview with ESPN on Monday. “I feel like on the offensive end, it would be a great fit next to him and the pieces that they already have -- and I’m sure that they’re going to bring in someone else in free agency. This is an exciting time to be a part of the Knicks. If that’s where I land, that’s somewhere where I think I can excel.”
Winslow worked out for the Knicks two weeks ago and had a subsequent dinner meeting with members of the club last week. During his workout, Winslow watched film of the triangle with team president Phil Jackson, coach Derek Fisher and other members of the organization and then implemented some of the triangle actions on the court.
“I think the workout went very well," said Winslow. "They got to know me as a player and got to know me as a person and what I can bring to the organization. I think I put my best foot forward and showed them who Justise Winslow is.”
Scouts see Winslow as a player who can play both shooting guard and small forward at the next level. If the Knicks were to draft Winslow and play him at small forward, they could shift Anthony to power forward -- a spot Melo has seen success in recent seasons. Last season, the Knicks outscored opponents by 5.7 points per 48 minutes when Anthony played power forward, per 82games.com. Conversely, they were outscored by 7.2 points per 48 minutes with Anthony at small forward in 2014-15. (For a deeper look at how Winslow can fit in the triangle and next to Anthony, click here.)
Winslow also projects as a player who can defend multiple positions, and some scouts believe this is where he'll make the largest impact early in his career. Winslow’s defense on the perimeter would be a welcome ingredient for a Knicks team that struggled to slow down opposing perimeter players last season.
“There’s different ways I can do that,” Winslow said regarding his impact on defense. “I have nice length, long arms and strong hands, and I’m athletic. I’m big enough to body up in the post and quick enough to get in the passing lane or make a late contest on a shot and I think I can guard multiple positions.”
Sharp style: Winslow plans to showcase his versatility and style with his draft-day outfit as well. Thanks in part to his partnership with Axe and GQ, you won’t see Winslow in an embarrassingly garish outfit on Thursday night.
“I won’t be in a rainbow suit,” he says. "Something simple."
If some Knicks fans get their wish, Winslow will be wearing an orange and blue hat at the end of the night, which is an enticing prospect for the 19-year-old.
“Just for me, living here the past six weeks, it’s a place I’ve become really comfortable with," Winslow said. "It’s a fun city, the market’s great. It would allow my brand to build and explode and if I were to land here I would be extremely excited and I think we would have a bright future.”
holfresh wrote:How not to get a job with the Knicks...Rook talking my Brand already...
He went to that Yankees game with Melo. I'm sure Melo taught him all about brands.
Winslow worked out for the Knicks two weeks ago and had a subsequent dinner meeting with members of the club last week.
but for everyone saying that brand stuff is a red flag Mudiay already has commercials out. These kids have to make money and he's been in town for 6 weeks without getting into trouble.
Knicks1969 wrote:What the hell type of brand is he talking about?
As a sports personality, I would assume, as much as the monetary associations which come with endorsements.
Sometimes I think it can even be a certain look or anything you identify him with.
Kind of a new term. Sounds like something agents talk to them about.
Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe can be said to have a brand in their style of play, and in Clyde's instance, the way he dressed, but I'm not sure they talked about that kind of thing as openly as they do today.
I think he can play the 2 and with his size, he can abuse opposing, smaller 2 guards especially in the mid post of the triangle offense. He can also guard the opposing teams best wing player. If you dont have a legit rim player, the next best thing is to get a legit perimeter defender. He has a nose for the ball and is vicious going to the rack. After Wade, Winslow might be one of the best shot blocking 2 guards in the league. He e is a stat sheet stuffer and does a lot to cover for his team. This is my guy...
Uptown wrote:Ive gone back and forth but im convinced that Winslow should be the pick @ 4 (if Russell is gone). Winslow is committed, he is a lefty, he is a winner, he is versatile and he might be the best two way player in the draft.I think he can play the 2 and with his size, he can abuse opposing, smaller 2 guards especially in the mid post of the triangle offense. He can also guard the opposing teams best wing player. If you dont have a legit rim player, the next best thing is to get a legit perimeter defender. He has a nose for the ball and is vicious going to the rack. After Wade, Winslow might be one of the best shot blocking 2 guards in the league. He e is a stat sheet stuffer and does a lot to cover for his team. This is my guy...
Personally I don't want Winslow. I don't like taking players and then have to change their position in the pros. Also I don't want a SG that can't shoot. Gerald Wilkins? great athlete, can't shoot. We need a SG that has a great outside shot ala Ray Allen.
Not sure if this type of stuff really matters once he is on the court, but I'm surprised and expected more from him, especially after hearing Coach K talk about him today.
Too many "I's." I would not have reread the article if the stuff about his brand was not there at the end. Then you go back and realize he never talked about helping the team win.
Sharp style: Winslow plans to showcase his versatility and style with his draft-day outfit as well. Thanks in part to his partnership with Axe and GQ, you won’t see Winslow in an embarrassingly garish outfit on Thursday night.
“I won’t be in a rainbow suit,” he says. "Something simple."“Just for me, living here the past six weeks, it’s a place I’ve become really comfortable with," Winslow said. "It’s a fun city, the market’s great. It would allow my brand to build and explode and if I were to land here I would be extremely excited and I think we would have a bright future.”
I'm actually stunned- he's one of the guys I've been calling a winner with high character.
So much for a simple young guy coming in to bring Duke's winning "brand" to the Knicks.
Was this an interview with the Wall Street Journal or ESPN?
Very strange from this kid. I would call him Naive, but he actually sounds intelligent and exactly aware of what he is saying.
Is this Anhony's influence on him already??
wargames wrote:Winslow worked out for the Knicks two weeks ago and had a subsequent dinner meeting with members of the club last week.but for everyone saying that brand stuff is a red flag Mudiay already has commercials out. These kids have to make money and he's been in town for 6 weeks without getting into trouble.
Doing endorsements is one thing, talking about your "brand" when you just turned 19 a few months ago is a red flag.
Mudiay is another one, but he was a bloody pro in China…he wasn't a poor college kid- why does he need money, now?. I also look at the whole Deion Sanders school thing as a red flag, too.
These guys should not be talking about brands before they are even drafted. This comes from Anthony or his agent.
It’s a fun city, the market’s great. It would allow my brand to build and explode and if I were to land here I would be extremely excited and I think we would have a bright future.”This comes out on the day Phil talks about having a fondness for mature players. Not a good look for Winslow.
Uptown wrote:Dont disagree about 'Brand' but i think we are all a bunch of old heads at this point. Its a genetational thing. Lebron talks about it, Wade, Melo, Hardin, etc. It doesnt prevent these guys from competing. I just watched Winslow dominate the tournament and win MOP of the final four. Regradless of what was said in a Newspaper, i see the heart and commitment he plays with. By that logic, most of this generations athletes has a red flag. Nothing to see here.
agree
BigRedDog wrote:Uptown wrote:Ive gone back and forth but im convinced that Winslow should be the pick @ 4 (if Russell is gone). Winslow is committed, he is a lefty, he is a winner, he is versatile and he might be the best two way player in the draft.I think he can play the 2 and with his size, he can abuse opposing, smaller 2 guards especially in the mid post of the triangle offense. He can also guard the opposing teams best wing player. If you dont have a legit rim player, the next best thing is to get a legit perimeter defender. He has a nose for the ball and is vicious going to the rack. After Wade, Winslow might be one of the best shot blocking 2 guards in the league. He e is a stat sheet stuffer and does a lot to cover for his team. This is my guy...
Personally I don't want Winslow. I don't like taking players and then have to change their position in the pros. Also I don't want a SG that can't shoot. Gerald Wilkins? great athlete, can't shoot. We need a SG that has a great outside shot ala Ray Allen.
The '15 draft version of Allen or Steph will be selected before we get a chance to draft him.... Winslow is a better athlete and prospect than Gerald Wilkins ever was....some of todays elite players entered the league with questionable jumpers; Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Lenard, Wade, even this years finals MVP, but all of them impact the game in so many other areas defensively and offensively. I think Winslow can have a similar impact. Besides, his jumper is better than some are giving him credit for. The commitment he has for the game, I'm sure he will improve.
Also, we have seen many college players enter the league ans switch positions...Nick Anderson was a baseline player for Illinois and had to switch to the perimeter in Orlando. Dude was a near allstar. Lenard played more on the interior in college and now plays out on the wing and on the perimeter for the Spurs. The only position change that doesn't work is when collegiate undersized shooting guards are forced to play point guard in the NBA. Playing point is a different animal all together. Wing players are interchangeable for the most part.
Uptown wrote:Dont disagree about 'Brand' but i think we are all a bunch of old heads at this point. Its a genetational thing. Lebron talks about it, Wade, Melo, Hardin, etc. It doesnt prevent these guys from competing. I just watched Winslow dominate the tournament and win MOP of the final four. Regradless of what was said in a Newspaper, i see the heart and commitment he plays with. By that logic, most of this generations athletes has a red flag. Nothing to see here.
Winslow is my guy too but geez...
crzymdups wrote:Uptown wrote:Dont disagree about 'Brand' but i think we are all a bunch of old heads at this point. Its a genetational thing. Lebron talks about it, Wade, Melo, Hardin, etc. It doesnt prevent these guys from competing. I just watched Winslow dominate the tournament and win MOP of the final four. Regradless of what was said in a Newspaper, i see the heart and commitment he plays with. By that logic, most of this generations athletes has a red flag. Nothing to see here.agree
Fair criticism…I'll admit that I'm old school, but I've been hearing some great interviews with prospects, and I heard Jay Bilas talk about the character of the kids in this draft. Heard Towns, OK4, Russell, Porzingis, and many others speak or be interviewed, and this seems like one of the best groups I can remember. Hell, I wanted to adopt Towns as I was listening to him.
I've called Winslow a winner many times, and would understand why Phil might take him, but this is not the type of stuff I want to hear from young players. The branding will come with accomplishments on the floor- You know everyone will love this kid if he shows the kind of stuff he showed at Duke. The guy's a warrior and I would love to see him going up against James on D.
No need to say this stuff before you've even stepped on the floor, and the fact that he says this crap means he might be listening to his agent too much…already.
WaltLongmire wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:What the hell type of brand is he talking about?As a sports personality, I would assume, as much as the monetary associations which come with endorsements.
Sometimes I think it can even be a certain look or anything you identify him with.
Kind of a new term. Sounds like something agents talk to them about.
Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe can be said to have a brand in their style of play, and in Clyde's instance, the way he dressed, but I'm not sure they talked about that kind of thing as openly as they do today.
This is bordering on stupid. Building your brand is an extremely common phrase that reverts to building how everyone around you perceives you. There is no need to associate that with a money grab or anything to do with endorsements. Not saying he doesn't or shouldn't seek them just that let's not jump up and down to oceanside every word and attach or own fictional meaning to them.
meloshouldgo wrote:What does, 'the market is great' mean in reference to building your brand?WaltLongmire wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:What the hell type of brand is he talking about?As a sports personality, I would assume, as much as the monetary associations which come with endorsements.
Sometimes I think it can even be a certain look or anything you identify him with.
Kind of a new term. Sounds like something agents talk to them about.
Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe can be said to have a brand in their style of play, and in Clyde's instance, the way he dressed, but I'm not sure they talked about that kind of thing as openly as they do today.This is bordering on stupid. Building your brand is an extremely common phrase that reverts to building how everyone around you perceives you. There is no need to associate that with a money grab or anything to do with endorsements. Not saying he doesn't or shouldn't seek them just that let's not jump up and down to oceanside every word and attach or own fictional meaning to them.
However, if our plan it to build a solid foundation, and role players that FIT for the system and defensive players over HIGH CEILING players, it coudld limit us to being play pretenders and stuck in the middle, the worse place to be, while other teams have already stockpiled future draft picks, like Philly/Boston, that we do not have
And GM's teams simply do not like NYK's and Phil Jackson to begin with, a reason we need to stockpile assets rather than continue to overpay in trades for talents like Raymond Felton/AB/Camby
With Phil Jackson talking about NBA players talking about "branding, shoe contracts, 1v1 playing vs watching ISO PLAY, marketing themslves, and contracts/$$$$ over winning, it seriously sounds like he was trolling CA
Is he doing it on purpose to make CA ask for a trade or is he just not thinking before speaking???
WaltLongmire wrote:crzymdups wrote:Uptown wrote:Dont disagree about 'Brand' but i think we are all a bunch of old heads at this point. Its a genetational thing. Lebron talks about it, Wade, Melo, Hardin, etc. It doesnt prevent these guys from competing. I just watched Winslow dominate the tournament and win MOP of the final four. Regradless of what was said in a Newspaper, i see the heart and commitment he plays with. By that logic, most of this generations athletes has a red flag. Nothing to see here.agree
Fair criticism…I'll admit that I'm old school, but I've been hearing some great interviews with prospects, and I heard Jay Bilas talk about the character of the kids in this draft. Heard Towns, OK4, Russell, Porzingis, and many others speak or be interviewed, and this seems like one of the best groups I can remember. Hell, I wanted to adopt Towns as I was listening to him.
I've called Winslow a winner many times, and would understand why Phil might take him, but this is not the type of stuff I want to hear from young players. The branding will come with accomplishments on the floor- You know everyone will love this kid if he shows the kind of stuff he showed at Duke. The guy's a warrior and I would love to see him going up against James on D.
No need to say this stuff before you've even stepped on the floor, and the fact that he says this crap means he might be listening to his agent too much…already.
Ehhh...it was just one interview, one 5 second statement. I just watched Winslows interview with Francesca on WFAN. Sounded very personable. Im sure the interview is up on wfan site. Not one time did he mention his brand.
CrushAlot wrote:meloshouldgo wrote:What does, 'the market is great' mean in reference to building your brand?WaltLongmire wrote:Knicks1969 wrote:What the hell type of brand is he talking about?As a sports personality, I would assume, as much as the monetary associations which come with endorsements.
Sometimes I think it can even be a certain look or anything you identify him with.
Kind of a new term. Sounds like something agents talk to them about.
Walt Frazier and Pearl Monroe can be said to have a brand in their style of play, and in Clyde's instance, the way he dressed, but I'm not sure they talked about that kind of thing as openly as they do today.This is bordering on stupid. Building your brand is an extremely common phrase that reverts to building how everyone around you perceives you. There is no need to associate that with a money grab or anything to do with endorsements. Not saying he doesn't or shouldn't seek them just that let's not jump up and down to oceanside every word and attach or own fictional meaning to them.
Could it mean everyone wants to play in a big market? Before the internet and the shrinking of the world, didnt most athletes want to play or get traded to a big market city? Why was that?